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#1 Posted by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Manga:

Tenchi Muyo/Tenchi
Z/Tenchi
Giorno/JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (Stand Golden Requiem)
Pucci/jojo's Bizarre Adventure (Highway to Heaven)
Shaka/Saint Seiya

Team Comic:
Superman (Pre-crisis)
Superman Prime (Superboy)
Phoenix
8th Day Juggernaut
Silver Surfer

Who takes it?

#2 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio

Comics.CURBSTOMP.

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#3 Posted by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio

Care to explain?

#4 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
"Care to explain?"
Sure...you put the Phoenix in the fight and the Silver Surfer...that's an automatic loss.
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#5 Edited by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio

I dunno... Tenchi is faster than the surfer with ONLY 3 light hawk wings (Earth to Jupiter in 7 seconds).

Tenchi Masaki (Tenchi Muyo Ovas)

He is both an anomaly and a manifestion of a hyperdimensional being superior to the Choushins (the 3 greatest goddess of the universe). In his human form he is capable of material conversion with his Ko-Oh-Yuko (Light Hawk Wings)

-Because Material conversion he is truly inmortal. He can recreate himself as many times as he want.

-He can transform energy to matter and viceversa at will.

-He can control the Ko-Oh-Yuko...the most powerful energy of the universe.

-He can pretty much cancel any injure (Kagato cut him by half and he regenerate in an instant.

-In Ova 11 or 12 he changed the gravitational constant of the universe to destroy a Black Hole. Tenchi cancelled a Black Hole by changing the physical laws of the whole universe.

-In the new ovas he transformed in Kami-Sama Tenchi....an allpowerful being superior to the 3 choushins....He easily stoped the choushin war....(the initial clash between Tsunami and Tokimi, two choushin destroyed thousand of galaxies...then they reset the time and bring back of the universe to the normally.....Kami Tenchi stoped both of them easily.

#6 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
"I dunno... Tenchi is faster than the surfer with ONLY 3 light hawk wings (Earth to Jupiter in 7 seconds).

Tenchi Masaki (Tenchi Muyo Ovas)

He is both an anomaly and a manifestion of a hyperdimensional being superior to the Choushins (the 3 greatest goddess of the universe). In his human form he is capable of material conversion with his Ko-Oh-Yuko (Light Hawk Wings)

-Because Material conversion he is truly inmortal. He can recreate himself as many times as he want.

-He can transform energy to matter and viceversa at will.

-He can control the Ko-Oh-Yuko...the most powerful energy of the universe.

-He can pretty much cancel any injure (Kagato cut him by half and he regenerate in an instant.

-In Ova 11 or 12 he changed the gravitational constant of the universe to destroy a Black Hole....Screw Hulk who open a black hole....Tenchi cancelled a Black Hole changing the physical laws of the whole universe.

-In the new ovas he transformed in Kami-Sama Tenchi....an allpowerful being superior to the 3 choushins....He easily stoped the choushin war....(the initial clash between Tsunami and Tokimi, two choushin destroyed thousand of galaxies...then they reset the time and bring back of the universe to the normally.....Kami Tenchi stoped both of them easily.
"
The Phoenix manipulates reality...meaning she can pretty much do what ever she wants.
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#7 Posted by xXi0RIXx (1736 posts) - - Show Bio

tenchis lame XDD
thats xed pit
giorno and pucci are cooooolio




LOL i was just going down the list to see what i would like to put

Phoenix can take all of them down and turn them into dust

#8 Edited by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio

So can Tenchi. And think of the 3 Choushins as Pre-retcon Beyonders.

#9 Posted by Ego (2324 posts) - - Show Bio
xXi0RIXx said:
"tenchis lame XDD
thats xed pit
giorno and pucci are cooooolio




LOL i was just going down the list to see what i would like to put

Phoenix can take all of them down and turn them into dust"


tenchi is a god. maybe the strongest god in any anime lol.
#10 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Ego said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"tenchis lame XDD
thats xed pit
giorno and pucci are cooooolio




LOL i was just going down the list to see what i would like to put

Phoenix can take all of them down and turn them into dust"


tenchi is a god. maybe the strongest god in any anime lol."
So?
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#11 Edited by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio

"So?"

"So" how do you justify Phoenix beating Tenchi (just 1 amongst the others)? I just want reasoning. I'm not even necessarily saying Tenchi wins.

You said Phoenix manipulates reality... but that doesn't do anything. Because Tenchi has manipulated reality too. Lets compare feats. Whats the biggest reality manipulating feat Phoenix did? Because Tenchi manipulated the reality of the entire universe/multi-verses/etc.. he instantly stopped 3 beings that can also manipulate reality to that extent, as I said earlier, it was as if he stopped 3 pre-retcon Beyonders with a the flick of a finger.

#12 Posted by xXi0RIXx (1736 posts) - - Show Bio
Ego said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"tenchis lame XDD
thats xed pit
giorno and pucci are cooooolio




LOL i was just going down the list to see what i would like to put

Phoenix can take all of them down and turn them into dust"


tenchi is a god. maybe the strongest god in any anime lol."
a god that gets his molicules ripped and gets levitated threw the walls like crazy

besides
tenchi has a thing for women XDDDD
#13 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
"So how do you justify Phoenix beating Tenchi (just 1 amongst the others)? I just want reasoning. I'm not even necessarily saying Tenchi wins.

You said Phoenix manipulates reality... but that doesn't do anything. Because Tenchi has manipulated reality too. Lets compare feats. Whats the biggest reality manipulating feat Phoenix did? Because Tenchi manipulated the reality of the entire universe/multi-verses/etc.. he instantly stopped 3 beings that can also manipulate reality to that extent, as I said earlier, it was as if he stopped 3 pre-retcon Beyonders with a the flick of a finger."
.....................
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#14 Posted by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio
xXi0RIXx said:
"Ego said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"tenchis lame XDD
thats xed pit
giorno and pucci are cooooolio




LOL i was just going down the list to see what i would like to put

Phoenix can take all of them down and turn them into dust"


tenchi is a god. maybe the strongest god in any anime lol."
a god that gets his molicules ripped and gets levitated threw the walls like crazy

besides
tenchi has a thing for women XDDDD"
Not really. He lived in a house full of beautiful women for years, and never laid a hand on any of them.
#15 Posted by StriderHiryu (55 posts) - - Show Bio
xXi0RIXx said:
"Ego said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"tenchis lame XDD
thats xed pit
giorno and pucci are cooooolio




LOL i was just going down the list to see what i would like to put

Phoenix can take all of them down and turn them into dust"


tenchi is a god. maybe the strongest god in any anime lol."
a god that gets his molicules ripped and gets levitated threw the walls like crazy

besides
tenchi has a thing for women XDDDD"
The Phoenix force is completely omnipotent., Tenchi is not. She can choose if you can live or die. And its telepathic and telekinetic powers it can simply read Tenchis mind to what he is doing.
#16 Posted by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio
Comics Team should win here...
#17 Posted by xXi0RIXx (1736 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
Not really. He lived in a house full of beautiful women for years, and never laid a hand on any of them."
but
he wanted to bang each and every one of them XDD and he was always nervous around them
#18 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm done with this.When  someone says reality manipulation doesn't do anything..there is no point in going on.

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#19 Posted by xXi0RIXx (1736 posts) - - Show Bio

you know what


Dark Phoenix shared all the abilities of the Omega-level mutant, Jean Grey, and added to those greatly making her one of the most powerful beings in the universe.

These powers included telepathy which branched off into many other abilities such as: telepathic cloak, cloak mind, and psionic shield which are all methods to protect one's mind from being detected or assaulted.

She can also create illusions with her telepathy and uses it to camouflage herself, allowing her to change form or become invisible.

Telepathy also allows her to manipulate the minds of others for domination. This includes mind control or possession. This also allows her to change the personality of a person however she wishes and she can induce paralysis (either physical or mental).

She can manipulate memories and transfer her mind and powers with that of another. If she touches the brow of a being she can induce mental pain or if she desired, pleasure.

She can use her powers to keep someone unconscious as long as she continues to sedate them. She can increase power levels of others to exponential levels, but only temporarily, or she can make them temporarily unable to use their powers.

Also she can create a psychic link with any being of her choice (she has one with Cyclops). She can also create psychic blasts that only effect the mind and she can sense other superhumans if they are in a close vicinity. She can project her astral form or become a psionic firebird.

Her telekinesis gives her the abilities of levitation, heat generation and creating force fields or concussive force.

She has the ability to manipulate time, space, matter and energy to virtually any degree thanks to the Phoenix Force. Also, she has utter control over life force as that is what the Phoenix Force is the embodiment of; so she can resurrect herself or others after death.

The Phoenix Force also gives her the ability of Cosmic Pyrokinesis, a control and summoning of a cosmic fire that can burn absolutely anything she desires, and she has complete control over it.

She can use her cosmic abilities to give herself superhuman strength, the limits to which are assumed virtually nonexistent.




BAB COPY AND PAST IF YOU DONT GET IT XDDDDDDDD



lol

#20 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio

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#21 Posted by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio
StriderHiryu said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Ego said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"tenchis lame XDD
thats xed pit
giorno and pucci are cooooolio




LOL i was just going down the list to see what i would like to put

Phoenix can take all of them down and turn them into dust"


tenchi is a god. maybe the strongest god in any anime lol."
a god that gets his molicules ripped and gets levitated threw the walls like crazy

besides
tenchi has a thing for women XDDDD"
The Phoenix force is completely omnipotent., Tenchi is not. She can choose if you can live or die. And its telepathic and telekinetic powers it can simply read Tenchis mind to what he is doing.
"
Reading and comprehension. Tenchi is omnipotent. And Phoenix would not be able to read the mind of someone who treats 3 pre-retcon Beyonder beings like infants.
#22 Posted by StriderHiryu (55 posts) - - Show Bio
xXi0RIXx said:
"you know what


Dark Phoenix shared all the abilities of the Omega-level mutant, Jean Grey, and added to those greatly making her one of the most powerful beings in the universe.

These powers included telepathy which branched off into many other abilities such as: telepathic cloak, cloak mind, and psionic shield which are all methods to protect one's mind from being detected or assaulted.

She can also create illusions with her telepathy and uses it to camouflage herself, allowing her to change form or become invisible.

Telepathy also allows her to manipulate the minds of others for domination. This includes mind control or possession. This also allows her to change the personality of a person however she wishes and she can induce paralysis (either physical or mental).

She can manipulate memories and transfer her mind and powers with that of another. If she touches the brow of a being she can induce mental pain or if she desired, pleasure.

She can use her powers to keep someone unconscious as long as she continues to sedate them. She can increase power levels of others to exponential levels, but only temporarily, or she can make them temporarily unable to use their powers.

Also she can create a psychic link with any being of her choice (she has one with Cyclops). She can also create psychic blasts that only effect the mind and she can sense other superhumans if they are in a close vicinity. She can project her astral form or become a psionic firebird.

Her telekinesis gives her the abilities of levitation, heat generation and creating force fields or concussive force.

She has the ability to manipulate time, space, matter and energy to virtually any degree thanks to the Phoenix Force. Also, she has utter control over life force as that is what the Phoenix Force is the embodiment of; so she can resurrect herself or others after death.

The Phoenix Force also gives her the ability of Cosmic Pyrokinesis, a control and summoning of a cosmic fire that can burn absolutely anything she desires, and she has complete control over it.

She can use her cosmic abilities to give herself superhuman strength, the limits to which are assumed virtually nonexistent.




BAB COPY AND PAST IF YOU DONT GET IT XDDDDDDDD



lol
"
#23 Edited by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio

1. "Dark Phoenix shared all the abilities of the Omega-level mutant, Jean Grey, and added to those greatly making her one of the most powerful beings in the universe."

This is useless. Marvel handbook stated Spider-man with Uni-force was the strongest being in the universe. Thats obviously not true. Although, Phoenix is definately upper tier of the Marvelverse.

2. "These powers included telepathy which branched off into many other abilities such as: telepathic cloak, cloak mind, and psionic shield which are all methods to protect one's mind from being detected or assaulted."

This is not impressive cosmic level abilities.

3. "She can also create illusions with her telepathy and uses it to camouflage herself, allowing her to change form or become invisible."

Illusions? This is also not impressive at cosmic level. Why make illusions when you can make reality?



4. "Telepathy also allows her to manipulate the minds of others for domination. This includes mind control or possession. This also allows her to change the personality of a person however she wishes and she can induce paralysis (either physical or mental)."

Still not impressive cosmic level feats. This is earth level.

5. "She can manipulate memories and transfer her mind and powers with that of another. If she touches the brow of a being she can induce mental pain or if she desired, pleasure."

Still not impressive cosmic level feats. This is earth level.

6. "She can use her powers to keep someone unconscious as long as she continues to sedate them. She can increase power levels of others to exponential levels, but only temporarily, or she can make them temporarily unable to use their powers."

Still not impressive cosmic level feats. This is earth level.

7. "Also she can create a psychic link with any being of her choice (she has one with Cyclops). She can also create psychic blasts that only effect the mind and she can sense other superhumans if they are in a close vicinity. She can project her astral form or become a psionic firebird."

Still not impressive cosmic level feats. This is earth level.

8. "Her telekinesis gives her the abilities of levitation, heat generation and creating force fields or concussive force."

Still not impressive cosmic level feats. This is earth level.


9. "She has the ability to manipulate time, space, matter and energy to virtually any degree thanks to the Phoenix Force. Also, she has utter control over life force as that is what the Phoenix Force is the embodiment of; so she can resurrect herself or others after death."

Now this is cosmic level~ Tenchi can do the same thing on a WIDE scale. Meaning he can do it to the entire universe/multiverse and every different reality in-between.

10. "The Phoenix Force also gives her the ability of Cosmic Pyrokinesis, a control and summoning of a cosmic fire that can burn absolutely anything she desires, and she has complete control over it."

Okay. Cosmic fire. Physical attacks don't really mean much when you have mass reality altering beings.

11. "She can use her cosmic abilities to give herself superhuman strength, the limits to which are assumed virtually nonexistent."

She can amp people up. Obviously there is a limit to what she can do. Marvel databases hype abilities. Post the best feat.


None of these feats beat changing the laws of reality for the entire universe along with every alternate one. Also, keep in mind that Tenchi can turn all actions to "0".

#24 Posted by xXi0RIXx (1736 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
"

1. "Dark Phoenix shared all the abilities of the Omega-level mutant, Jean Grey, and added to those greatly making her one of the most powerful beings in the universe."

This is useless. Marvel handbook stated Spider-man with Uni-force was the strongest being in the universe. Thats obviously not true. Although, Phoenix is definately upper tier of the Marvelverse.

2. "These powers included telepathy which branched off into many other abilities such as: telepathic cloak, cloak mind, and psionic shield which are all methods to protect one's mind from being detected or assaulted."

This is not impressive cosmic level abilities.

3. "She can also create illusions with her telepathy and uses it to camouflage herself, allowing her to change form or become invisible."

Illusions? This is also not impressive at cosmic level. Why make illusions when you can make reality?



4. "Telepathy also allows her to manipulate the minds of others for domination. This includes mind control or possession. This also allows her to change the personality of a person however she wishes and she can induce paralysis (either physical or mental)."

Still not impressive cosmic level feats. This is earth level.

5. "She can manipulate memories and transfer her mind and powers with that of another. If she touches the brow of a being she can induce mental pain or if she desired, pleasure."

Still not impressive cosmic level feats. This is earth level.

6. "She can use her powers to keep someone unconscious as long as she continues to sedate them. She can increase power levels of others to exponential levels, but only temporarily, or she can make them temporarily unable to use their powers."

Still not impressive cosmic level feats. This is earth level.

7. "Also she can create a psychic link with any being of her choice (she has one with Cyclops). She can also create psychic blasts that only effect the mind and she can sense other superhumans if they are in a close vicinity. She can project her astral form or become a psionic firebird."

Still not impressive cosmic level feats. This is earth level.

8. "Her telekinesis gives her the abilities of levitation, heat generation and creating force fields or concussive force."

Still not impressive cosmic level feats. This is earth level.


9. "She has the ability to manipulate time, space, matter and energy to virtually any degree thanks to the Phoenix Force. Also, she has utter control over life force as that is what the Phoenix Force is the embodiment of; so she can resurrect herself or others after death."

Now this is cosmic level~ Tenchi can do the same thing on a WIDE scale. Meaning he can do it to the entire universe/multiverse and every different reality in-between.

10. "The Phoenix Force also gives her the ability of Cosmic Pyrokinesis, a control and summoning of a cosmic fire that can burn absolutely anything she desires, and she has complete control over it."

Okay. Cosmic fire. Physical attacks don't really mean much when you have mass reality altering beings.

11. "She can use her cosmic abilities to give herself superhuman strength, the limits to which are assumed virtually nonexistent."

She can amp people up. Obviously there is a limit to what she can do. Marvel databases hype abilities. Post the best feat.


None of these feats beat changing the laws of reality for the entire universe along with every alternate one. Also, keep in mind that Tenchi can turn all actions to "0".

"
LOL YORU SO SUBBORN XDDD



tenchi donot show that he can defend agains all these things at once

theres no point in arguing someting that is totaly in front of you
#25 Edited by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio

You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*


If you want to prove that Phoenix is better than Tenchi, you better post it's BEST reality altering feats. And the strongest it has beaten. And Iori, if the best opponent she has beaten is anything less than TOAA, Pre-retcon Beyonder, Thanos with Infinite Gauntlet... you're shit out of luck. lol

#26 Posted by shenron (899 posts) - - Show Bio

comics


#27 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
Did you read the part where it says "she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"? It seems like you're only focusing on her psychic abilities. I don't suppose you've heard about when Phoenix was holding the universe in her hand and whatnot?
#28 Posted by batosaims (248 posts) - - Show Bio

i do enjoy alot of manga but i enjoy comics more
if this is about what u like better its about opinion

about who would win
comics

the only two anime i can think of that can take on high level beings like ithe spectre, phantom stranger, the living tribunal, TOAA and the Presence


are the lord of nightmares from slayers and tenchi at the very end of tenchi universe where he becomes the multiversal god

#29 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
batosaims said:
"i do enjoy alot of manga but i enjoy comics more
if this is about what u like better its about opinion

about who would win
comics

the only two anime i can think of that can take on high level beings like ithe spectre, phantom stranger, the living tribunal, TOAA and the Presence


are the lord of nightmares from slayers and tenchi at the very end of tenchi universe where he becomes the multiversal god"
Has almost nothing to do with this thread.
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#30 Posted by xXi0RIXx (1736 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
<------- read tenchi muyo no need for tenchi tenchi love tenchi space tenchi tenchi universe

not onlyy will they need to go pass phoenix but there also the surfer they need to worry about

and besides when whoever says go for the fight to start
superman can just use his superspeed
run up to tenchi and snap his neck
#31 Posted by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio
Sparda said:
"Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
Did you read the part where it says "she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"? It seems like you're only focusing on her psychic abilities. I don't suppose you've heard about when Phoenix was holding the universe in her hand and whatnot?"
"Holding the Universe in your hand" doesn't mean anything. If you're well versed in the Phoenix, please name feats that beat Tenchi. I haven't heard a single feat from the Phoenix that trumphs Tenchi.

#32 Posted by shenron (899 posts) - - Show Bio

you are talking about gods  look at superman he is probably just about as strong as
thor. Silver Surfer wields the power cosmic phoniex is an a ls one of the toughest in x-men history (or I think)
Juggernaught is like as powerful as the hulk. Superboy prime is tough just because he is a superboy.

#33 Posted by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio
Sparda said:
"Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
Did you read the part where it says "she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"? It seems like you're only focusing on her psychic abilities. I don't suppose you've heard about when Phoenix was holding the universe in her hand and whatnot?"
"she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"- Than post a feat showing examples of this.

"Holding the universe in your hand" means nothing.
#34 Posted by xXi0RIXx (1736 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
"Sparda said:
"Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
Did you read the part where it says "she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"? It seems like you're only focusing on her psychic abilities. I don't suppose you've heard about when Phoenix was holding the universe in her hand and whatnot?"
"she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"- Than post a feat showing examples of this.

"Holding the universe in your hand" means nothing."
its the same thing
but in different words
#35 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
"Sparda said:
"Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
Did you read the part where it says "she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"? It seems like you're only focusing on her psychic abilities. I don't suppose you've heard about when Phoenix was holding the universe in her hand and whatnot?"
"Holding the Universe in your hand" doesn't mean anything. If you're well versed in the Phoenix, please name feats that beat Tenchi. I haven't heard a single feat from the Phoenix that trumphs Tenchi.

"

You've got to be joking......how does holding the universe in your dang hand mean nothing? Should could crush it, and she's perfectly fine and the other dude is dead. Well, there we go, job done.

You're basically just saying "Near-omnipotence means nothing, Tenchi wins". You're asking me for feats.......when you've provided one, which could easily be (gasp!) a high-showing.

Actually, you know what, I really don't feel like continuing this, since I wasn't even debating for either side in my original post. You just took it that way.
#36 Posted by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio
xXi0RIXx said:
"Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
<------- read tenchi muyo no need for tenchi tenchi love tenchi space tenchi tenchi universe

not onlyy will they need to go pass phoenix but there also the surfer they need to worry about

and besides when whoever says go for the fight to start
superman can just use his superspeed
run up to tenchi and snap his neck"
Obviously you didn't.

Superman can move FTL. Probably a little faster. Tenchi went from Earth to Jupiter in 7 seconds. DO THE MATH. And SNAP Tenchi's neck? Okay. What part of the word "OMNIPOTENT" do you not get? Tenchi is immortal first of all. Second, he is faster than Super Man. Third, his light hawk wings would have made superman's attack "0".

Giorno makes any action "0" before it actually happens. That means that before the Silver Surfer THINKS about something.. he didn't think of something. Because his thought (an action) was already turned to "0".

Pucci's Made in Heaven makes the user move to the end of time in a speed described as "only God can keep up". Once there, the user can reshape the universe/reality/etc..

This fight is more equal than you think.
#37 Posted by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
""So?"

"So" how do you justify Phoenix beating Tenchi (just 1 amongst the others)? I just want reasoning. I'm not even necessarily saying Tenchi wins.

You said Phoenix manipulates reality... but that doesn't do anything. Because Tenchi has manipulated reality too. Lets compare feats. Whats the biggest reality manipulating feat Phoenix did? Because Tenchi manipulated the reality of the entire universe/multi-verses/etc.. he instantly stopped 3 beings that can also manipulate reality to that extent, as I said earlier, it was as if he stopped 3 pre-retcon Beyonders with a the flick of a finger."
3 Pre Retcon Beyonders ? I dont know about that...
#38 Posted by shenron (899 posts) - - Show Bio

comics would win,but instead of super boy you need DC. captain marvel to killllll

#39 Posted by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Kimikirai said:
""So?"

"So" how do you justify Phoenix beating Tenchi (just 1 amongst the others)? I just want reasoning. I'm not even necessarily saying Tenchi wins.

You said Phoenix manipulates reality... but that doesn't do anything. Because Tenchi has manipulated reality too. Lets compare feats. Whats the biggest reality manipulating feat Phoenix did? Because Tenchi manipulated the reality of the entire universe/multi-verses/etc.. he instantly stopped 3 beings that can also manipulate reality to that extent, as I said earlier, it was as if he stopped 3 pre-retcon Beyonders with a the flick of a finger."
3 Pre Retcon Beyonders ? I dont know about that..."
They have the ability to create, destroy, and alter multiverses. Sound's Pre-ret Beyonder to me.
#40 Posted by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
"King Saturn said:
"Kimikirai said:
""So?"

"So" how do you justify Phoenix beating Tenchi (just 1 amongst the others)? I just want reasoning. I'm not even necessarily saying Tenchi wins.

You said Phoenix manipulates reality... but that doesn't do anything. Because Tenchi has manipulated reality too. Lets compare feats. Whats the biggest reality manipulating feat Phoenix did? Because Tenchi manipulated the reality of the entire universe/multi-verses/etc.. he instantly stopped 3 beings that can also manipulate reality to that extent, as I said earlier, it was as if he stopped 3 pre-retcon Beyonders with a the flick of a finger."
3 Pre Retcon Beyonders ? I dont know about that..."
They have the ability to create, destroy, and alter multiverses. Sound's Pre-ret Beyonder to me."
I dont know. Other beings who are lower than Classic Beyonder can do the same thing... ever heard of a 10th Dimensional Being ? 
#41 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
<------- read tenchi muyo no need for tenchi tenchi love tenchi space tenchi tenchi universe

not onlyy will they need to go pass phoenix but there also the surfer they need to worry about

and besides when whoever says go for the fight to start
superman can just use his superspeed
run up to tenchi and snap his neck"
Obviously you didn't.

Superman can move FTL. Probably a little faster. Tenchi went from Earth to Jupiter in 7 seconds. DO THE MATH. And SNAP Tenchi's neck? Okay. What part of the word "OMNIPOTENT" do you not get? Tenchi is immortal first of all. Second, he is faster than Super Man. Third, his light hawk wings would have made superman's attack "0".

Giorno makes any action "0" before it actually happens. That means that before the Silver Surfer THINKS about something.. he didn't think of something. Because his thought (an action) was already turned to "0".

Pucci's Made in Heaven makes the user move to the end of time in a speed described as "only God can keep up". Once there, the user can reshape the universe/reality/etc..

This fight is more equal than you think.
"
Superman Pre-Crisis is much, much faster than light......he wasa moving so fast that he was about to break a dimensional barrier and enter Heaven before Spectre stopped him. According to his page here, he can move at an infinite speed, I believe.
#42 Posted by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio
Sparda said:
"Kimikirai said:
"Sparda said:
"Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
Did you read the part where it says "she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"? It seems like you're only focusing on her psychic abilities. I don't suppose you've heard about when Phoenix was holding the universe in her hand and whatnot?"
"Holding the Universe in your hand" doesn't mean anything. If you're well versed in the Phoenix, please name feats that beat Tenchi. I haven't heard a single feat from the Phoenix that trumphs Tenchi.

"

You've got to be joking......how does holding the universe in your dang hand mean nothing? Should could crush it, and she's perfectly fine and the other dude is dead. Well, there we go, job done.

You're basically just saying "Near-omnipotence means nothing, Tenchi wins". You're asking me for feats.......when you've provided one, which could easily be (gasp!) a high-showing.

Actually, you know what, I really don't feel like continuing this, since I wasn't even debating for either side in my original post. You just took it that way."
What did she do when the "universe" was in her hand??? What was this? A comic cover? What part of the plot was she effecting? And crushing the universe would do nothing to Tenchi. Near-omni vs Actual-omni... Hmm.. which is stronger? XD
#43 Posted by shenron (899 posts) - - Show Bio

why didn't you put in any super hard hitters like goku
or the guy from bastard
or D
or the voltron machine
or tygro
the decepticon army

#44 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
"Sparda said:
"Kimikirai said:
"Sparda said:
"Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
Did you read the part where it says "she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"? It seems like you're only focusing on her psychic abilities. I don't suppose you've heard about when Phoenix was holding the universe in her hand and whatnot?"
"Holding the Universe in your hand" doesn't mean anything. If you're well versed in the Phoenix, please name feats that beat Tenchi. I haven't heard a single feat from the Phoenix that trumphs Tenchi.

"

You've got to be joking......how does holding the universe in your dang hand mean nothing? Should could crush it, and she's perfectly fine and the other dude is dead. Well, there we go, job done.

You're basically just saying "Near-omnipotence means nothing, Tenchi wins". You're asking me for feats.......when you've provided one, which could easily be (gasp!) a high-showing.

Actually, you know what, I really don't feel like continuing this, since I wasn't even debating for either side in my original post. You just took it that way."
What did she do when the "universe" was in her hand??? What was this? A comic cover? What part of the plot was she effecting? And crushing the universe would do nothing to Tenchi. Near-omni vs Actual-omni... Hmm.. which is stronger? XD"

White Phoenix of The Crown. I'm not going to give YOU scans and comic covers if you haven't done the same.....besides, I haven't even read the story, if you want info on it, go look it up already.
#45 Posted by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio
Sparda said:
"Kimikirai said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
<------- read tenchi muyo no need for tenchi tenchi love tenchi space tenchi tenchi universe

not onlyy will they need to go pass phoenix but there also the surfer they need to worry about

and besides when whoever says go for the fight to start
superman can just use his superspeed
run up to tenchi and snap his neck"
Obviously you didn't.

Superman can move FTL. Probably a little faster. Tenchi went from Earth to Jupiter in 7 seconds. DO THE MATH. And SNAP Tenchi's neck? Okay. What part of the word "OMNIPOTENT" do you not get? Tenchi is immortal first of all. Second, he is faster than Super Man. Third, his light hawk wings would have made superman's attack "0".

Giorno makes any action "0" before it actually happens. That means that before the Silver Surfer THINKS about something.. he didn't think of something. Because his thought (an action) was already turned to "0".

Pucci's Made in Heaven makes the user move to the end of time in a speed described as "only God can keep up". Once there, the user can reshape the universe/reality/etc..

This fight is more equal than you think.
"
Superman Pre-Crisis is much, much faster than light......he wasa moving so fast that he was about to break a dimensional barrier and enter Heaven before Spectre stopped him. According to his page here, he can move at an infinite speed, I believe."
I'd like to see a source for that, because Superman has NEVER moved faster than the Omnipresent Flash. i know a lot about superman, and i've NEVER heard about him having "infinite speed".
#46 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio
Kimikirai said:
"Sparda said:
"Kimikirai said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
<------- read tenchi muyo no need for tenchi tenchi love tenchi space tenchi tenchi universe

not onlyy will they need to go pass phoenix but there also the surfer they need to worry about

and besides when whoever says go for the fight to start
superman can just use his superspeed
run up to tenchi and snap his neck"
Obviously you didn't.

Superman can move FTL. Probably a little faster. Tenchi went from Earth to Jupiter in 7 seconds. DO THE MATH. And SNAP Tenchi's neck? Okay. What part of the word "OMNIPOTENT" do you not get? Tenchi is immortal first of all. Second, he is faster than Super Man. Third, his light hawk wings would have made superman's attack "0".

Giorno makes any action "0" before it actually happens. That means that before the Silver Surfer THINKS about something.. he didn't think of something. Because his thought (an action) was already turned to "0".

Pucci's Made in Heaven makes the user move to the end of time in a speed described as "only God can keep up". Once there, the user can reshape the universe/reality/etc..

This fight is more equal than you think.
"
Superman Pre-Crisis is much, much faster than light......he wasa moving so fast that he was about to break a dimensional barrier and enter Heaven before Spectre stopped him. According to his page here, he can move at an infinite speed, I believe."
I'd like to see a source for that, because Superman has NEVER moved faster than the Omnipresent Flash. i know a lot about superman, and i've NEVER heard about him having "infinite speed"."
Oy......let's see if I can go search the internet for this, shouldn't be too hard, google and whatnot.
#47 Posted by xXkiraXx (112 posts) - - Show Bio

hahaha yea really

#48 Posted by xXkiraXx (112 posts) - - Show Bio

really just put the guns down....superman does not have infinite speed

#49 Posted by Kimikirai (954 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanks. And please make sure it is NOT a simile. DC loves similes.

#50 Posted by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio
I dont think Superman has infinite speed but he can move near light speed currently