Mandrakk vs the Darkness

Random clash number two.  Mandrakk has been throwing insults out at whoever will listen, and this time it just so happens to be aimed at Jackie and the Darkness.  Both being pretty tough guys/entities, the insults turn to violence... 
 
Both are in character, with the Darkness while it assumes its highest displayed level of power (overall in a comic, canon and non canon).  Battle beings in a pocket universe provided kindly by Franklin Richards.  Win by incapacitation and ruthless mocking or death... 
 

Are you saying highest power seen by Jackie or the Darkness entity itself? It makes a huge difference.

@Crom-Cruach said:

"Are you saying highest power seen by Jackie or the Darkness entity itself? It makes a huge difference. "

" Are you saying highest power seen by Jackie or the Darkness entity itself? It makes a huge difference. "

" @whacknasty: Then the Darkness curbstomps Mandrakk and spits on what's left. "

"Lol. Very funny image...  Maybe I'm over estimating Monitors then?  Or just Mandrakk in particular? "

Didn't Mandrakk use a blast at Thought Robot with the power of 10 billion suns? The Monitors of all the DC Universes had to build something to match Mandrakk so I'd think he's much above a universe.

Full powered Darkness wins this without much effort.

Darkness is powerful enough to stop Mandrakk?

Darkness

" Didn't Mandrakk use a blast at Thought Robot with the power of 10 billion suns? The Monitors of all the DC Universes had to build something to match Mandrakk so I'd think he's much above a universe. "

" @Sexy Merc said:

" Didn't Mandrakk use a blast at Thought Robot with the power of 10 billion suns? The Monitors of all the DC Universes had to build something to match Mandrakk so I'd think he's much above a universe. "

The monitors had trouble dealing with heroes far below the multiversal. And that billions suns but is about worth as much as what fanboys say about Sentry. The Darkness entity that empowers Jackie has full dominion over things Mandrakk's powers do not, he couldn't even hurt the Darkness entity. "

 @Sexy Merc said:

"When he was fighting the Thought Robot is said with he throws a blast with the power of 10 billion suns, it's nothing like the Sentry thing. "

"  @Sexy Merc said:

"When he was fighting the Thought Robot is said with he throws a blast with the power of 10 billion suns, it's nothing like the Sentry thing. "

Not much, how exactly can we actually assume that blast has the power of a billion suns when nothing in the depiction resembles it.  This is also rather moot since Mandrakk is a denizen of the primordial darkness/evil and lives in that realm but isn't it creator or it's controller. Ergo the Darkness is more powerful as all Darkness is under his dominion. "

" The Thought Robot was huge though, like bigger than the jar containing all 52 Universes, and it was an energy blast containing the power of 10 billion suns so the depiction of his size and that fact that it was an energy blast should prove it's power in my opinion. "

" @Sexy Merc said:

" The Thought Robot was huge though, like bigger than the jar containing all 52 Universes, and it was an energy blast containing the power of 10 billion suns so the depiction of his size and that fact that it was an energy blast should prove it's power in my opinion. "

I don't know looking at that picture in Final Crisis, I can't say I was really impressed. That still doesn't make him stronger then the Darkness entity however, as that entity emcompasses all Darkness and the inherent concepts that make it up in every world that makes up top cow. In this sense, if there were multiple alternate realities in Top Cow, the darkness entity would have dominion over them "

" Darkness is powerful enough to stop Mandrakk? "

" @Sexy Merc said:

" Darkness is powerful enough to stop Mandrakk? "

Even if Mandrakk can create blasts as strong as 10 billion suns. It wouldn't matter. A full powered Darkness can make himself infinitely strong, infinitely durable, etc. Jackie now couldn't do that, but a full power Darkness would walk all over Mandrakk, there just isn't any amount of power he could create that could hurt the Darkness. "

" @Fist_of_Mandalore said:

" @Sexy Merc said:

" Darkness is powerful enough to stop Mandrakk? "

Even if Mandrakk can create blasts as strong as 10 billion suns. It wouldn't matter. A full powered Darkness can make himself infinitely strong, infinitely durable, etc. Jackie now couldn't do that, but a full power Darkness would walk all over Mandrakk, there just isn't any amount of power he could create that could hurt the Darkness. "

Scans of the infinite stuff? "

" @Sexy Merc said:

" @Fist_of_Mandalore said:

" @Sexy Merc said:

" Darkness is powerful enough to stop Mandrakk? "

Even if Mandrakk can create blasts as strong as 10 billion suns. It wouldn't matter. A full powered Darkness can make himself infinitely strong, infinitely durable, etc. Jackie now couldn't do that, but a full power Darkness would walk all over Mandrakk, there just isn't any amount of power he could create that could hurt the Darkness. "

Scans of the infinite stuff? "

I got off work not too long ago. So let me go through all my trades and comics and stuff to see if I have it. Might not post it back till tomorrow if thats cool? "

" @Fist_of_Mandalore said:

" @Sexy Merc said:

" @Fist_of_Mandalore said:

" @Sexy Merc said:

" Darkness is powerful enough to stop Mandrakk? "

Even if Mandrakk can create blasts as strong as 10 billion suns. It wouldn't matter. A full powered Darkness can make himself infinitely strong, infinitely durable, etc. Jackie now couldn't do that, but a full power Darkness would walk all over Mandrakk, there just isn't any amount of power he could create that could hurt the Darkness. "

Scans of the infinite stuff? "

I got off work not too long ago. So let me go through all my trades and comics and stuff to see if I have it. Might not post it back till tomorrow if thats cool? "

That's fine and if you can't post scans, issue numbers would suffice or trades. I've been meaning to get into Jackie anyway and you're credible too. "

I've never seen the full Darkness and I hope it proves to be a match for Mandrakk. His nanotechnology alone was invading the Multiverse, and he defeated the Spectre and the Radiant simultaneously. It took a metaphysical plot device and some extreme hand-waving to defeat him. 

" I've never seen the full Darkness and I hope it proves to be a match for Mandrakk. His nanotechnology alone was invading the Multiverse, and he defeated the Spectre and the Radiant simultaneously. It took a metaphysical plot device and some extreme hand-waving to defeat him.  "

" @CosmicSpiral said:

" I've never seen the full Darkness and I hope it proves to be a match for Mandrakk. His nanotechnology alone was invading the Multiverse, and he defeated the Spectre and the Radiant simultaneously. It took a metaphysical plot device and some extreme hand-waving to defeat him.  "

The only real thing that can stop a full powered Darkness is the Angelus. But in the comics they have an issue in the future where Jackie has fully imprisoned the Angelus force and has the entire planet conquered.  "

" @Fist_of_Mandalore: Haha, so you have all of Jackie's appearances?  : p  You seem to like a lot of dark characters like him and Lobo. "

" @Sexy Merc said:

" @Fist_of_Mandalore: Haha, so you have all of Jackie's appearances?  : p  You seem to like a lot of dark characters like him and Lobo. "

Thats how I've always been. Always been into the Heroes who aren't afraid to kill. The Darkness and Lobo are more than likely my top two favorite characters. But being Dark isn't the only thing I like. Lobo seriously has some of the most hilarious trades I've ever read. I've literally had to put the book down at times because I was laughing so hard(yeah I know, mega nerd). "

" @Fist_of_Mandalore said:

" @CosmicSpiral said:

" I've never seen the full Darkness and I hope it proves to be a match for Mandrakk. His nanotechnology alone was invading the Multiverse, and he defeated the Spectre and the Radiant simultaneously. It took a metaphysical plot device and some extreme hand-waving to defeat him.  "

The only real thing that can stop a full powered Darkness is the Angelus. But in the comics they have an issue in the future where Jackie has fully imprisoned the Angelus force and has the entire planet conquered.  "

What can a full powered Darkness do? I haven't seen the Angelus perform feats on the scale of Mandrakk, and scale is important to consider when you're talking about him.  "

" @Fist_of_Mandalore said:

" @Sexy Merc said:

" @Fist_of_Mandalore: Haha, so you have all of Jackie's appearances?  : p  You seem to like a lot of dark characters like him and Lobo. "

Thats how I've always been. Always been into the Heroes who aren't afraid to kill. The Darkness and Lobo are more than likely my top two favorite characters. But being Dark isn't the only thing I like. Lobo seriously has some of the most hilarious trades I've ever read. I've literally had to put the book down at times because I was laughing so hard(yeah I know, mega nerd). "

I've had similar reactions to Lobo comics, he's awesome, lol. "

" @Fist_of_Mandalore:I have every appearance of Kyle and he's been awesome since the 90s, in recent years, not as awesome. "

" @Sexy Merc said:

" @Fist_of_Mandalore:I have every appearance of Kyle and he's been awesome since the 90s, in recent years, not as awesome. "

Thats actually impressive in my opinion. The only character I probably have everything of is Lobo. And lets face it, Its not like Lobo has been in much since his creation so its not all that  great. Alright, man. I'm tired from work, lol. Tomorrow I'm going through my old Darkness comics and  I'm going to do my best to see if I can come up with scans. If not, I will hunt down the issues in which they are  and let you know ;) "

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" this is an interesting thread... though Mandrakk should win this fight here "

Mandrakk is easily more powerful..this is a spite thread.

" Mandrakk is easily more powerful..this is a spite thread. "

" @geraldthesloth said:

" Mandrakk is easily more powerful..this is a spite thread. "

OP stated this is full power Darkness.  "

" @Fist_of_Mandalore said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

" Mandrakk is easily more powerful..this is a spite thread. "

OP stated this is full power Darkness.  "

So? There isn't any full power darkness feats.  in fact the idea of controlling Darkness is useless against a being who exists beyond Space and Time. "

" @geraldthesloth said:

" @Fist_of_Mandalore said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

" Mandrakk is easily more powerful..this is a spite thread. "

OP stated this is full power Darkness.  "

So? There isn't any full power darkness feats.  in fact the idea of controlling Darkness is useless against a being who exists beyond Space and Time. "

Unfortunately that is too true. I have been going through my old Darkness comics like crazy for Merc to try and show him what a full powered Darkness is capable of doing, but I can't, then again I am missing some stuff can't seem to find it. A full powered Darkness is said to only be able to be stopped by one single force and that is the Angelus force. So there is no feats, and its technically Hyperbole, but I don't see how Mandrakk is going to hurt him when he isn't the Angelus force. "

If the Darkness has no feats at full level, then this is a battle that goes nowhere. 

" If the Darkness has no feats at full level, then this is a battle that Mandrakk wins in.  "

" @Fist_of_Mandalore said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

" @Fist_of_Mandalore said:

" @geraldthesloth said:

" Mandrakk is easily more powerful..this is a spite thread. "

OP stated this is full power Darkness.  "

So? There isn't any full power darkness feats.  in fact the idea of controlling Darkness is useless against a being who exists beyond Space and Time. "

Unfortunately that is too true. I have been going through my old Darkness comics like crazy for Merc to try and show him what a full powered Darkness is capable of doing, but I can't, then again I am missing some stuff can't seem to find it. A full powered Darkness is said to only be able to be stopped by one single force and that is the Angelus force. So there is no feats, and its technically Hyperbole, but I don't see how Mandrakk is going to hurt him when he isn't the Angelus force. "

You pretty much stated yourself that there isn't any full powered Darkness feats.  Darkness has lost fights to people that were not Angelus and don't exist beyond the 52 universes. "

" @CosmicSpiral said:

" If the Darkness has no feats at full level, then this is a battle that Mandrakk wins in.  "

Edited <3 "

Mandrakk wins here then.

" Mandrakk wins here then. "

" @Sexy Merc said:

" Mandrakk wins here then. "

Yes he does. Looked back at all my Darkness comics. I'm not really finding anything. A lot of pages stating he can do certain things, and statements of it being the most poweful force in the universe, including one page where the guy says the Darkness is 'The force on crack", but nothing that truly backs it up. "

" @Fist_of_Mandalore said:

" @Sexy Merc said:

" Mandrakk wins here then. "

Yes he does. Looked back at all my Darkness comics. I'm not really finding anything. A lot of pages stating he can do certain things, and statements of it being the most poweful force in the universe, including one page where the guy says the Darkness is 'The force on crack", but nothing that truly backs it up. "

Oh, alright. I got a good deal of Darkness comics recently. "