Man of Steel vs. AoU New Avengers

New Avengers

• The Avengers are fighting with no morals.
• MoS is in character.
• Prep: Random encounter but the Avengers have full intel on Clark.
• Weapons: Standard equipment
• Location: Sokovia

Vision and scarlet take it

Man of Steel:

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Marvel Cinematic Universe:

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Avengers stomp honestly. Scarlet witch solos with TP

Clark stomps since you continue to make threads using a guy with 1 movie worth of feats from like 3 years ago

MoS

Again

-_-

What are you complaining about? Half of the New Avengers only have one film's worth of feats too. Plus this is literally only the second time I've used MoS...reach much?

Vision is the only one that even matters. He might win.

@super_mod: I mean everyone they keep making thor vs mos supes or hulk vs mos supes vision vs mos supes give him a rest you guys continue to use and them when people defend him you cry

Well don't lump me in with them. This is a real battle, no bait or intentional spite here. Of course ppl are gonna make threads pitting cinematic characters against MoS considering that he's a popular top-tier as far as cinematic superheroes are concerned.

New Avengers, Vision alone is debatable then you got War Machine who could open up for Vision or Scarlet to get a strong shot in

@allstarsuperman: false black widow solos,

huehue jk

Vision is the only threat.Witch maybe.

@super_mod: alrighty

this. everyone still dies horribly. vision is nigh indestructible now so its a stalemate pretty much.

Clark's only problem here is Wanda's mind tricks. If he can avoid that, then he slaughters the entire team.

Vision lacks feats at this moment of time.

@gxrevolution96: @zmasonite: if Clint was able to notice her behind him and tag her before she launched the attack, there's no reason Clark couldn't. She'd be better off sticking with shields and blasts.

Vision, Wanda, and War Machine should be able to win. With Vision being MVP

Bump

MOS wins, Vision doesn't have enough feats. And Falcon, Cap & Black Widow ain't S*i*

@kfabz-23: They have full intel so they would be prepared for Clark.

@super_mod: avengers stomp then

Superman takes this. Vision is his only threat, and I don't think he could bring him down.

Scarlet Witch solos.

Vision or Scarlet could solo

I don't really think Vision can solo, he needs more feats. I think the main threat to Clark would be Wanda, personally.

New Avengers hands down - Superman is porwerful but WAY too outnumbered and the Avengers are well equipped with Superman intell...

New Avengers win.

Hmm Vision and Scarlet win the battle.

Morals off and fully prepped? With intellects like banner and stark???? COME ON. IS this a spite thread? You just gave them so much advantage that it's obnoxious.

That said, supes still wins.

@supermanwins465: Banner and Stark aren't in this fight.

@supermanwins465: They aren't fully prepped, they just know what they're fighting, that's it.

Vision can crack vibranium with his mind gem

And if the gems are similar in strength, his mind gem has planet busting strength in it

Vision is also coated in vibranium, he solos

The mind gem on it's own wasn't enough to damage the Vibranium. It took a combined attack.

@gxrevolution96: repulsed Rays can't even kill cap and lightning couldn't even kill ironman, it was all the mind gem

Except that it wasn't. The mind gem wasn't enough to damage him. It was only after Thor and Tony added to Visions attack, does Ultron's body begin to melt.

I highly doubt Tony hit Clark with a fully powered blast, considering that the repulsers have shown to obliterate tank materials.

MOS, still untouchable.

The New Avengers.

I don't think any of them could beat him physically. He'd tear most of them apart in seconds, but IF he were to let Scarlett Witch get close and use her TP on him then sure she might be able to do something, then again he has alien physiology so we have no clue if her powers would work on him. It's also a big if to say she could get close enough to use her TP on him. Vision is the only other threat from what i can tell, but we honestly don't have enough feats for him i don't think.

Allow him to have full intel on the team and I don't see them winning.

Vision would one shot Clark

If you think War Machine can do anything against Superman but be gutted like a tin can then you are delusional. Wanda is a big IF. Vision doesn't have enough feats to judge whether he could beat Clark or not.

This is a mismatch. Vision could solo and possibly Scarlet Witch too. War Machine could give MoS hell.

Lets not forget what the MoS CREATORS said about Kryptonians in their movies: the can be hurt by high caliber rounds, the can be KO'd by missiles and even killed by nukes.

Vision solos.

Wanda solos with TP.

Vision barely had any feats and Wanda will not touch Clark.

MOS still wins.

War Machine can't do a single thing to Superman, and Kryptonians were never hurt by high caliber rounds in the movie, not were they hurt by missiles.

This.

@lunacyde: if you disagree then take it up with Zach Snyder but that is directly from him.

Snyder made a chart of Superman's abilities in his movies. Normal bullets are annoying to him, high caliber rounds can hurt him, missiles will KO him and a nuke can kill him.

Directly what the creators said so once again if you don't like it then email them with your complaints

Do you have a source, a link perhaps?

I've also heard that Snyder said he could probably survive a Nuke.

@lunacyde: he said that he wasn't sure if he could survive it or not.

I made I mistake though, they didn't say high caliber rounds could hurt him, they said an RPG and it would just be enough to bother him. They did however say that a missile would knock a Kryptonian out (not for very long). The link is below.

http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2013/07/fight-flight-making-of-man-of-steel.html

Again, they definitely made the Kryptonians so that they could be harmed and possibly even killed by human weapons, weapons that Warmachine could definitely get ahold of. Which is why I say that Warmachine could definitely hurt MoS.

Before anyone says "Superman took shots from the world engine", yes he did and that is just one of about 500 plot holes or inconsistencies from that movie.

@gxrevolution96: that blast was the only concentrated blast that vision ever shot at him..

all the other times the avengers fought ultron, they barely defeated him even though at those times ultron was only regular metal

repulso rays cant even kill cap

lightining cant even kill iron man

it was all vision