Mako and Bolin run the Earth and Fire Gauntlet

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The Bending Brothers of Team Avatar face off against a series of earth and fire benders from A:TLA

This is Mako and Bolin after the end of Season 3.

No lightning for the first 6 rounds

Korra is missing, and Mako and Bolin think these people are responsible.

All battles take place at noon in the abandoned village where Azula, Zuko, and Aang fought

Round 1: Zhao

Round 2: Haru

Round 3: Zuko (before he learned lightning redirection)

Round 4: The Boulder

Round 5: The Rough Rhinos

Round 6: Long Feng and 2 Dai Li agents

For these rounds Mako can use lightning

Round 7: Zuko (post-dragons)

Round 8: Toph

Round 9: Combustion Man (brothers have 5 min prep and info on Combustion Man)

How far can they get?

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Stop at 7

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@arcus:

Why wasn't I included :(.

Stop at Zuko after dragons/toph

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@sophia89 said:

@arcus: They clear.

lava bending gives them a clear edge.

Even though Bolin only has very limited lava-bending showings?

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Toph would give them trouble but they aren't getting past Round 9

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Clear the first 8 rounds with ease, it's 2 against 1 and in the case of Feng the Dai Lee where a joke

Combustion man will give them the most trouble they could be taken down but there pro-bending training is what gave them the edge against Pai-Li that the original team didn't have, smaller, faster more accurate attacks to disrupt his chi blasts instead of meeting his blasts head on.

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@dextersinister: There's 5 or 6 Rough Rhinos, so it's not all 2 on 1

You really think they can take Zuko and Toph that easily?

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Toph puts them into the ground

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@arcus: What does post-dragons mean? Where in the series is this Zuko from?

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#14  Edited By Arcus1

@z___: season 3, after he learned from the dragons with Aang

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#15 rogueshadow  Moderator

How much rest do they get between battles?

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Stops at the 7

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@arcus: True, but with both combustion benders, there were a lot more people battling them making it harder for the combustion benders to keep track of them, making the hit to the head more manageable.

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#18  Edited By MetalJimmor

Assuming they are fully rested between each fight the two as a team have the potential to clear, but might stop at Toph depending on various factors.

Mainly I'm wondering how Toph would react to lava bending. She has a hard time seeing in sand, and lava is liquefied rock. If Bolin figures out she can use seismic sense, an ability the brothers are quite aware of unlike literally everyone Toph has ever beaten, he might be able to neutralize her ability to see by surrounding her with lava.

I actually don't think Zuko will stop them. Mostly because it's a two on one. Bolin's earth barriers and Mako's fire shots compliment each other amazingly well. I just don't see Zuko bypassing Bolin's defense while avoiding Mako's offense at the same time. Mako even brings an added offensive advantage in that he can both generate and redirect lightning, where as Zuko cannot create his own lightning.

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Stops at 8.

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Stops at 8, potentially 7.

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Stops at 7 IMO. Zuko could redirect Mako's lightning and bypass Bolin's Earth barriers. Even if they beat Zuko, they definitely don't beat Toph IMO, she's just too good for the brothers to beat.

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#23  Edited By Dextersinister

@arcus said:

@dextersinister: There's 5 or 6 Rough Rhinos, so it's not all 2 on 1

You really think they can take Zuko and Toph that easily?

I had to google the Rhinos to remind myself who they where so they most likely went down like fodder, could be wrong.

Yes it's 2 against one, only nostlagia goggles would have anyone believe that Zuko or Toph could take down 2 main characters.

Zuko could redirect Mako's lightning and bypass Bolin's Earth barriers.

Comments like these make Zuko out to be some uber master he never was, Mako favours fire blasts and is like 2 feet taller, Bolin isn't going to hide behind a wall, both are agile characters, Zuko dodges/blocks one gets taken out by the other.

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#24  Edited By Etheral_Dreams

How is Zuko getting past lava? Also if he redirects Mako's lightning, Mako can redirect it back. They are also less rigid in their fighting style, and will be moving constantly.

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@arcus they should get to 7 no problem. 7 and 8 would be VERY tough fights. and i can see them losing at 8, even with lightning and lava bending.

However, i believe that they CAN beat combustion man. With 5 minutes to come up with a plan, they should be able to get a clear shot at his forehead. They managed to take out the Female Combustion bender even when she had the other red lotus members with her

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Can potentially clear

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@dextersinister: Yeah, they're pretty much fodder, just pointing out it's not all 2 on 1

Just because they're 2 main characters doesn't necessarily mean they can beat any one person (not saying Zuko and Toph win, just making a comment)

Mako's definitely not 2 feet taller than Zuko

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#28  Edited By Dextersinister

@arcus: But normal benders are little better than sandbags with smiley faces in the avatar verse, Kai was taking out Dai Lee. Stick with elite mooks, arrow guys, Equalists, metal benders.

True but neither Toph or Zuko where ever depicted as the type that could take other main characters with ease.

Slight exaggeration.

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@dextersinister: Being a main character doesn't automatically put you on a certain level

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@arcus: If your not suppose to be a fighter type character then maybe not but main characters will often take multiple hits when fodder only take one, be better with little to no training than soldiers who have trained for years even when there not considered prodigies etc, tropes exist for a reason.

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@dextersinister: True, being a main character does put you above being fodder, what I meant was that being a main character doesn't mean you're on the same level as other main characters (I thought that Zuko and Toph couldn't win because Mako and Bolin are 2 main characters)

But I think I understand what you were saying ( it's been a long day)

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@arcus: One other important thing, writers often try to balance out characters.

Zuko stalemates Katara and when Toph and Katara squared off they seemed evenly matched, that annoyed me, I was hoping Toph would stomp.

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@dextersinister: Zuko was fighting evenly with Katara for the few seconds of fighting we saw, she still could have beaten him if Azula didn't come

Obviously any fight between Katara and Toph is going to depend a lot on the environment

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#34  Edited By Z___
@arcus said:

@z___: season 3, after he learned from the dragons with Aang

Ohhh. Okay, I remember now.

Mako y Bolin aren't getting past 7/post-dragons Zuko. Although current Mako and Bolin will put up a fairly good fight with their team chemistry, lava-bending & lightning projection though Zuko's too agile and powerful for them, he'll scorch them individually, eventually.

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@z___: I'd probably put the brothers agility pretty close to Zuko's, maybe about even with his. Pro-bending has given them a lot of practice

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#36  Edited By MrUnsmiley

I think they can take it to round 8. Toph is fast and brutal, unlike most Earthbenders you see in the show. If they got past her, I think they could take Combustion Man especially with prep and info.

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@arcus: True, but have you seen Zuko rescuing Aang? He fights off a bunch of soldiers by himself and takes a runs around them handily (even without Aang's help).

With pro-bending, maneuverability is restricted, you do dodge and you need agility, but you're in a much smaller area. This takes place in an abandoned village. Much more space to take cover and put your speed, agility and stealth to good use. This battle's is on Zuko's turf, he's used to the area too. He's also fought Aang -- a much faster bender than Mako and Bolin -- within the vicinity too.

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@z___: The first time I started to think Zuko was cool was when he was the Blue Spirit, it was great

Zuko fought here once, and it didn't exactly go real well for him. I wouldn't say he has any kind of home turf advantage

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On a different note, for those of you who have enjoyed this gauntlet (or even not) I'd appreciate your thoughts on a new gauntlet I made

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/korras-team-avatar-vs-the-a-tla-gauntlet-1597539/#0

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Stop at 1. Zhao moonbuster.

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@princearagorn1: There were times they tried to make Zhao threatening...it never really worked...

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@princearagorn1: Holy sh*t. Zhao IS a moon buster. I need to put him up against Raditz. XD

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@princearagorn1: Holy sh*t. Zhao IS a moon buster. I need to put him up against Raditz. XD

No!! that was a casual fireblast. He needs to be higher!!

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@princearagorn1: When you think about it that way...a non-casual Zhao could be a planet buster....O_O

And Momo beat Zhao, making Momo...........

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Bump, any new thoughts about this?

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Stops at CM.

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Stops at 9 or clears. This gauntlet is rather outdated since Bolin got his S4 feats.

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#50 anthp2000  Moderator
@mial42 said:

Stops at 9 or clears.