The fight takes place in New York. Morals apply for both characters, and they are both fighting at full power and capacity. Assume that Namor is soaking wet. They are standing 20 feet from each other. Who wins?
Major Force vs. Namor
Major Force is a contender for Green Lanterns and Superman level characters he is out of Namor's League.
If Major Force is fighting at full capacity, does that mean he is fighting like someone who is barely competent?
" If Major Force is fighting at full capacity, does that mean he is fighting like someone who is barely competent? "Not really. He's just fighting to the best of his ability.
" @CosmicSpiral said:So he is barely competent for this match? Well hmmmmm...that changes the entire outcome!" If Major Force is fighting at full capacity, does that mean he is fighting like someone who is barely competent? "Not really. He's just fighting to the best of his ability. "
Major Force 10/10.
" @CosmicSpiral said:Initially I might have given a even split. I don't have the greatest respect for what MF possesses up in the old noggin'. But if he's fighting at full capacity, he'll be fighting better than at any time in his career." So he is barely competent for this match? "I'm confused. LOL. "
Major force Sadly......but not easy.....because he is REALLY stupid....and Namor isn't at all Stupid lol
Still Major Force out classes him.
Major Force wins and then stuffs Emma Frost in a refrigerator.
major force... has energy projection abilities and is all around more powerful. might not be stronger though
@Hyperlight: Strength is debatable. Major Force has been sized up with Superman twice, and I'm pretty sure Namor doesn't come close to Superman. Either way, some my argue that Namor could be strong enough to contend with Force here.
Nooooo.......hes pretty dumb.....to the point it's considered his weakness. Also yes he has been shown at superman levels but he was also shown at not so Superman levels. Either way he would win hes just stupid and it wouldn't be a stomp because of his stupidity and not so great fighting skill.
No, it doesn't. It means hes fighting to the best of HIS capability. He isn't very capable. Better put his mental "Capacity" is not all that great, even at it's best. Like I said though, he still wins.
Really? Well, would you like to explain how pretty dumb he is, and how his stupidity was exploited as a weakness? I'm asking because I've read every single appearance he's had. Maybe there's something you know that I don't." @Static Shock: Nooooo.......hes pretty dumb.....to the point it's considered his weakness.
@ThaMessenger07 said:
When?" but he was also shown at not so Superman levels.
" @CosmicSpiral: No, it doesn't. It means hes fighting to the best of HIS capability. He isn't very capable. Better put his mental "Capacity" is not all that great, even at it's best.How is he not capable? He may be considered psychotic, but that doesn't really make him stupid.
How is he not capable? He may be considered psychotic, but that doesn't really make him stupid. "His psychosis really gets in the way of him using his powers in creative/effective ways.
He had his hand amputated by Katana. He just doesn't have smart showings. He is bat-sh!t crazy and not that brilliant. He can create constructs with his powers and so much more yet he does things like beat people with there arm! Hes a cool character, I get it he is your avatars Arch enemy. It doesn't change his not so skillful and all together unimpressive showings of combat. And him having his hand cut off by Katana is a not so Superman Showing. Also being Decapitated by Kyle Rayner, not so Superman Showing. Ive read a lot with him, not all of it but enough to know I'm not talking out my ass.
" @CosmicSpiral: Even then, his psychosis doesn't always dictate the way he fights. It just determines how effectively he uses his powers. "That's part of the problem. Rhino may be dumb, but he has eight times the strength of Spider-Man and an near-invulnerable hide to match. He has advantages there so I can accept the fact he's limited by his intelligence. However, Major Force is supposed to contend with the top heavyweights. He doesn't have many feats to support that he can. It's much easier to emphasis his psychosis as a limitation.
" @Static Shock: He had his hand amputated by Katana.This doesn't explain how Major Force is stupid. He was blasting away at Superman when she sliced off his hands with that magical sword. He wasn't even paying attention to her, and was busy with Superman.
@ThaMessenger07 said:
"He just doesn't have smart showings.He doesn't have stupid ones, either.
@ThaMessenger07 said:
He is bat-sh!t crazy and not that brilliant."Nor is he as dumb as bricks.
@ThaMessenger07 said:
"I get it he is your avatars Arch enemy. It doesn't change his not so skillful and all together unimpressive showings of combat.You're saying this as if I'm basing Major Force on the fact that his enemy is Captain Atom. Stay on topic, please.
@ThaMessenger07 said:
" And him having his hand cut off by Katana is a not so Superman Showing.Major Force isn't as durable as most, especially Captain Atom. This doesn't take away from the fact that he's in Superman's strength class (and has shown it, too).
@ThaMessenger07 said:
" Also being Decapitated by Kyle Rayner, not so Superman Showing.Again, Major Force's durability has been addressed. On top of that, a GL ring is that powerful, and Major Force is unable to absorb energy.
@ThaMessenger07 said:
Ive read a lot with him, not all of it but enough to know I'm not talking out my ass. "You said that he was stupid to the point where it's a weakness, and none of what you said supports that. Not saying you're talking out of your ass, but you're addressing issues that aren't relevant to your main point.
What is the point???? Honestly then tell me what is the point? I'm claiming Major Force wins in a thread that is about Major Force Fighting Namor. Namor looses because he is outclassed in strength. What else is there to debate. If Major Force is not as un-intelligent as I believe him to be then AT-LEAST we can agree he is not smarter then Namor, nor is he a better fighter. He simply out classes him in strength.
" That's part of the problem. Rhino may be dumb, but he has eight times the strength of Spider-Man and an near-invulnerable hide to match. He has advantages there so I can accept the fact he's limited by his intelligence. However, Major Force is supposed to contend with the top heavyweights. He doesn't have many feats to support that he can. It's much easier to emphasis his psychosis as a limitation. "Major Force has knocked Superman across three states and has developed a form of energy that could sap solar energy from his body. He's knocked around the Justice League by himself, while Resurrection Man was assisting them (Superman [who wasn't holding back], Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Kyle Rayner, and the Flash were all on the team at the time). He's given Hal Jordan issues when they fought in Battle for Bludhaven. He's even contended with Vuldarian Guy Gardner until Kyle intervened. In his last battle with Kyle (while he had the Ion power) Force was able to contend and take some of his best shots, before getting decapitated.
His psychosis is an issue. I won't deny that. But, he's shown to contend with the top contenders, despite all that.
Your point was that he was stupid to the point that it was a weakness, right? Support it. That's all I'm saying. Nothing you said in your subsequent post supported that claim." @Static Shock: What is the point???? Honestly then tell me what is the point?
@ThaMessenger07
said:Namor, like Major Force, doesn't even have any impressive fighting skills anyway. As far as fighting goes, Namor isn't any better than Major Force is and vice versa."If Major Force is not as un-intelligent as I believe him to be then AT-LEAST we can agree he is not smarter then Namor, nor is he a better fighter.
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