Magneto vs Xorn

Surprised this has never been done before, honestly.
 
Location: Ruins of Genosha. They start one full kilometer apart.
Gear: Standard.
No BFR.
 
Round 1: Morals on.
Round 2: Morals off. 
 
Who wins?
 

" I'll be back for this, but you need to define which version of Xorn is being used. "

Yeah Xorn can do some cool stuff, but I'm pretty sure that Magneto's power of 'Magnetism' has expounded to not only gravity control but also maniuplating strong and weak nuclear forces if he really wants to.  So in short I'm pretty certain that Mageneto can do anything Xorn could and then some.
 
That said it'd be a pretty bitchin' fight with lots of collateral damage.

Magneto wins.

if you're talking about the xorn that pretended to be magneto and easily defeated phoenix, then the real magneto wins.

" @Morpheus_ said:

" I'll be back for this, but you need to define which version of Xorn is being used. "

There's more than one? Forgive my ignorance, but I've only read of him in the Morrison run. Was it a matter of "with or without the Sublime drug?" "

" @Morpheus_:   Didn't know about that.  Should I make a third round in which Xorn has Kick / Sublime?   My personal view was this: Xorn went insane due to taking the drug and thought himself to be Magneto. He was then killed by Cyclops. I dont know anything about his brother. "

" if you're talking about the xorn that pretended to be magneto and easily defeated phoenix, then the real magneto wins. "

" @Morpheus_:   Ah. Then what did Cyclops do to him? Blind him?  Does it make any difference if the Magneto used here is the one from recent comics? He did suffer a downgrade of sorts, after all. "

Ugh. Xorneto.

" @JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_:   Ah. Then what did Cyclops do to him? Blind him?  Does it make any difference if the Magneto used here is the one from recent comics? He did suffer a downgrade of sorts, after all. "

He blasted his face, destroying his helmet.
 
Magnus has some fine feats even after being re-empowered by HE, and if memory serves right, it was mentioned that he should be as powerful as he was during his prime, if not better. "

" Ugh. Xorneto. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_:   Ah. Then what did Cyclops do to him? Blind him?  Does it make any difference if the Magneto used here is the one from recent comics? He did suffer a downgrade of sorts, after all. "

He blasted his face, destroying his helmet.
 
Magnus has some fine feats even after being re-empowered by HE, and if memory serves right, it was mentioned that he should be as powerful as he was during his prime, if not better. "

Really? I feel like he's weaker lately. "

" @The Dark Huntress said:

" Ugh. Xorneto. "

I like Xorn.
 
@JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_:   Ah. Then what did Cyclops do to him? Blind him?  Does it make any difference if the Magneto used here is the one from recent comics? He did suffer a downgrade of sorts, after all. "

He blasted his face, destroying his helmet.
 
Magnus has some fine feats even after being re-empowered by HE, and if memory serves right, it was mentioned that he should be as powerful as he was during his prime, if not better. "

Really? I feel like he's weaker lately. "

Hey, he located a space bullet from light years away, diverted and controlled it all the way back to Earth, he was the one who manipulated (arrogant) Proteus' form for the win in Legacy, and beat an army of Nimrod's during Second Coming. The man is no slouch. "

" @Morpheus_:   No, he's not, but I just feel like he has weakened a bit. Plus, in Second Coming, didn't he destroy most of the Nimrods by pelting them with chunks from Nation X / Asteroid M? If I remember correctly, he only destroyed a couple using his own power. But you are right: he is still powerful. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @The Dark Huntress said:

" Ugh. Xorneto. "

I like Xorn.
 
@JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_:   Ah. Then what did Cyclops do to him? Blind him?  Does it make any difference if the Magneto used here is the one from recent comics? He did suffer a downgrade of sorts, after all. "

He blasted his face, destroying his helmet.
 
Magnus has some fine feats even after being re-empowered by HE, and if memory serves right, it was mentioned that he should be as powerful as he was during his prime, if not better. "

Really? I feel like he's weaker lately. "

Hey, he located a space bullet from light years away, diverted and controlled it all the way back to Earth, he was the one who manipulated (arrogant) Proteus' form for the win in Legacy, and beat an army of Nimrod's during Second Coming. The man is no slouch. "

he also powered the city of quitado(the city of the children fo the vault)- he didn't use that much energy-, he was also fought a lot of children of the vault using the iron in their blood. "

" @JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_:   No, he's not, but I just feel like he has weakened a bit. Plus, in Second Coming, didn't he destroy most of the Nimrods by pelting them with chunks from Nation X / Asteroid M? If I remember correctly, he only destroyed a couple using his own power. But you are right: he is still powerful. "

I'm trying to forget Second Comimg, don't make me double-check. :P
 
@blackadam said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @The Dark Huntress said:

" Ugh. Xorneto. "

I like Xorn.
 
@JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_:   Ah. Then what did Cyclops do to him? Blind him?  Does it make any difference if the Magneto used here is the one from recent comics? He did suffer a downgrade of sorts, after all. "

He blasted his face, destroying his helmet.
 
Magnus has some fine feats even after being re-empowered by HE, and if memory serves right, it was mentioned that he should be as powerful as he was during his prime, if not better. "

Really? I feel like he's weaker lately. "

Hey, he located a space bullet from light years away, diverted and controlled it all the way back to Earth, he was the one who manipulated (arrogant) Proteus' form for the win in Legacy, and beat an army of Nimrod's during Second Coming. The man is no slouch. "

he also powered the city of quitado(the city of the children fo the vault)- he didn't use that much energy-, he was also fought a lot of children of the vault using the iron in their blood. "

True, but he did lose (along with the whole team) the first time around. Still solid feats, though. Carey likes Magneto a good deal. "

" @JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_:   No, he's not, but I just feel like he has weakened a bit. Plus, in Second Coming, didn't he destroy most of the Nimrods by pelting them with chunks from Nation X / Asteroid M? If I remember correctly, he only destroyed a couple using his own power. But you are right: he is still powerful. "

I'm trying to forget Second Comimg, don't make me double-check. :P "

" @Morpheus_ I LOVE him. I just dislike all the confusion that surrounds the retcon. "

" yeah, he did lose the first time to "olvido" or soemthing like that. still is good to see magneto on a regular basis, he is cool character.   you didn't like the second coming event? "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_:   No, he's not, but I just feel like he has weakened a bit. Plus, in Second Coming, didn't he destroy most of the Nimrods by pelting them with chunks from Nation X / Asteroid M? If I remember correctly, he only destroyed a couple using his own power. But you are right: he is still powerful. "

I'm trying to forget Second Comimg, don't make me double-check. :P "

I liked Second Coming. "

" @Morpheus_:   I like Bastion! Don't kill me, Morpheus! "

"   @The Dark Huntress said:

" @Morpheus_ I LOVE him. I just dislike all the confusion that surrounds the retcon. "

I'm with you.
 

@blackadam said:

" yeah, he did lose the first time to "olvido" or soemthing like that. still is good to see magneto on a regular basis, he is cool character.   you didn't like the second coming event? "

Indeed. Magneto is basically the reason I caught up with Uncanny and Legacy, some time ago.
 
I liked the first few issues, up until Nightcrawler's death. Everything else felt contrived. 
 

@JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_:   No, he's not, but I just feel like he has weakened a bit. Plus, in Second Coming, didn't he destroy most of the Nimrods by pelting them with chunks from Nation X / Asteroid M? If I remember correctly, he only destroyed a couple using his own power. But you are right: he is still powerful. "

I'm trying to forget Second Comimg, don't make me double-check. :P "

I liked Second Coming. "

Prepare to taste the sweet kiss of Mjolnir. "

" @JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_:   I like Bastion! Don't kill me, Morpheus! "

LOL. I like Bastion, as well. "

I liked Second Coming. "

Prepare to taste the sweet kiss of Mjolnir. "

" @Morpheus_: Which would you have preferred? Him being his own character or him being Mags? 
 
@Morpheus_ said: 

I liked Second Coming. "

Prepare to taste the sweet kiss of Mjolnir. "

<____< "

" @The Dark Huntress said:

" @Morpheus_: Which would you have preferred? Him being his own character or him being Mags? 
 
@Morpheus_ said: 

I liked Second Coming. "

Prepare to taste the sweet kiss of Mjolnir. "

<____< "

Him being his own character, but not evil.
 
Don't "<_____<" me, Thor actually said that on panel. :p "

" @blackadam: It was not a bad event by any means, just didn't feel as exciting and fresh as something three years in the making should have been. 
 
"

"Same here. But more than that I just wish that Marvel has stuck with one story.   It was more because I actually really liked Second Coming.   And Thor can get away with it. :P "

" @The Dark Huntress said:

"Same here. But more than that I just wish that Marvel has stuck with one story.   It was more because I actually really liked Second Coming.   And Thor can get away with it. :P "

I try not to think how many versions of what happened we've seen, since Planet X; it gives me a headache. To make matters worse, Bendis' New Avengers: The Collective arc turned things into an absolute mess.
 
Is that a euphemism for "Thou art no Thor?" "

" @JediXMan: (You know I'm always open to all opinions ^_^)  I loved Xorn (the whole run really, minus Quitely's art). "

" Xorn taking Kick on his own volition is incompatible to his personality. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @The Dark Huntress said:

"Same here. But more than that I just wish that Marvel has stuck with one story.   It was more because I actually really liked Second Coming.   And Thor can get away with it. :P "

I try not to think how many versions of what happened we've seen, since Planet X; it gives me a headache. To make matters worse, Bendis' New Avengers: The Collective arc turned things into an absolute mess.
 
Is that a euphemism for "Thou art no Thor?" "

YAY BENDIS! 
 
Whistles innocently.  "

" @Morpheus_:   Who knows? Maybe they'll explain it one day. "

" @Morpheus_: Bendis ruining characters? Color me shocked.  "

" @Morpheus_:   Has something happened recently?  
 
PS: I, personally, would love a crack at explaining what happened to Xorn. I think I could do it. "

" @JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_:   Who knows? Maybe they'll explain it one day. "

Each explanation has only made things worse so far, and all things Xorn seem to be taboo currently. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_:   Who knows? Maybe they'll explain it one day. "

Each explanation has only made things worse so far, and all things Xorn seem to be taboo currently. "

i can go with the idea of morrison. the only thing that didn't make sense to me, was how magneto( if we go by morrison initial idea)  was able to to trick emma with the false memories of xorn childhood. "

" @blackadam said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @JediXMan said:

" @Morpheus_:   Who knows? Maybe they'll explain it one day. "

Each explanation has only made things worse so far, and all things Xorn seem to be taboo currently. "

i can go with the idea of morrison. the only thing that didn't make sense to me, was how magneto( if we go by morrison initial idea)  was able to to trick emma with the false memories of xorn childhood. "

I have a hard time believing Morrison truly intended for Xorn to be Magneto all the way back to New X-Men Annual. He did provide many clues afterwards, but he is usually far more careful than that. He probably had a change of heart at some point, and the backstory given in the annual just didn't  make sense anymore, if we assume there never was a Xorn. "