Magneto Vs Kang - Battles

#1 Posted by FlashyMan82 (35 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Takes Place Anywhere

#2 Posted by Nightcrawler23 (775 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

um is this SPITE?

#3 Posted by HolySerpent (11728 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Who is kang

#4 Posted by Docnick (10454 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@HolySerpent: Pharoah of time. he is also Iron lad, of the young avengers.

#5 Posted by texasdeathmatch (12570 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@nickthedevil: Pretty sure he understands that this site also has a character database with a search function and is just f*cking around.

#6 Edited by Docnick (10454 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

I'm really sure that Kang obliterates Mags.... And Kang hasn't face anybody (that i know of) that he doesn't have a little bit of prep time. i'm sure that in 1000 years, theres going to be MORE than enough ways to get around Mags. and Kang, upon seeing Mags, will recognize him, Knows what to do, and curb stomps him

Kang Definately stomps.

#7 Posted by Docnick (10454 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

@nickthedevil: Pretty sure he understands that this site also has a character database with a search function and is just f*cking around.

damn... charmer much?

#8 Posted by Morpheus_ (29871 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Iron Lad handwaved Magneto away in Children's Crusade, so Kang, being infinitely more experienced and powerful than his former self should reasonably accomplish the same.

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#9 Posted by texasdeathmatch (12570 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@nickthedevil: ...I don't get that.

#10 Posted by MagneticShockwave (1245 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Kang the Conqueror? Magneto does have a chance winning this. Kang is a very generic Dr. Doom and Magneto is more than cunning enough to devise a victory against him.

#11 Posted by Docnick (10454 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@MagneticShockwave: no he doesn't. the doom thing was a betrayal, not a stand up to him fight.

and Kang is more cunning than Mags, so thats not helping here.

#12 Posted by MrDirector786 (41460 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Kang

#13 Posted by Manchine (2548 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Got to give it to Kang....His Force Field can withstand blows from Thor... Magneto's can not.

#14 Posted by MagneticShockwave (1245 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

@MagneticShockwave: no he doesn't. the doom thing was a betrayal, not a stand up to him fight.
and Kang is more cunning than Mags, so thats not helping here.

The Doom thing wasn't just a betrayal. Kang went on trying to persuade Doom on joining him because Doom had the means for his plans, also claiming to be Dr. Doom's son. Doom is just to cleaver to not fall for such trickery. It was Kang who betrayed Doom and Doom was already prepared to defeat Kang. Kang's prep is also ridiculously long because he goes back in time (via time machine) and spends years upon years getting his plans in movement unlike Doom whose every step is worth a 1000 years of prep. Dr. Doom also claims that Magneto is an even more worthy opponent given his power set, will power and cunning mind. GIve Magneto a time machine too and Magneto will blow Kang out of the time stream.

#15 Posted by Docnick (10454 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@MagneticShockwave said:

@nickthedevil said:
@MagneticShockwave: no he doesn't. the doom thing was a betrayal, not a stand up to him fight.
and Kang is more cunning than Mags, so thats not helping here.
The Doom thing wasn't just a betrayal. Kang went on trying to persuade Doom on joining him because Doom had the means for his plans, also claiming to be Dr. Doom's son. Doom is just to cleaver to not fall for such trickery. It was Kang who betrayed Doom and Doom was already prepared to defeat Kang. Kang's prep is also ridiculously long because he goes back in time (via time machine) and spends years upon years getting his plans in movement unlike Doom whose every step is worth a 1000 years of prep. Dr. Doom also claims that Magneto is an even more worthy opponent given his power set, will power and cunning mind. GIve Magneto a time machine too and Magneto will blow Kang out of the time stream.

we're talking the Infinity war right? if so, then thats not how it went down. Doom and Kang DID join forces. and in the middle of their fight against Magus, Doom stabbed Kang in the back (figuratively) and was himself beaten by Magus before he could kill Doom.

Mags does not have a time machine sooooo....

#16 Edited by chiq (1204 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

kang travels back in time and kills magneto before he got his powers. Seriously without pis it should be really tough to beat a time traveler..

#17 Posted by Buckshot (18201 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@chiq said:

kang travels back in time and kills magneto before he got his powers. Seriously without pis it should be really tough to beat a time traveler..

Kang, at least how I think of him being characterized, wouldn't do that. I remember Kang teaching his son that time was the battlefield not the weapon (or something to that effect, I think I'll have to look that up) when he suggested a similar battle strategy against the Avengers and conquering opponents at their best and fighting equally with them is such a big part of his character (he takes on Ultron at his best and engages Captain America in combat Cap can actually compete in because he enjoys it more) that I think he'd take on Magneto as an adult fully in control of his powers. And I think he'd win.

There has only ever been one problem with Kang. His horrendous costume. Aside from that, he is perfect.

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#18 Posted by MagneticShockwave (1245 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@chiq said:

kang travels back in time and kills magneto before he got his powers. Seriously without pis it should be really tough to beat a time traveler..

Time Travel doesn't work on Magneto. He'll sense a rip in the time stream with his magnetic senses before Kang can enter through the portal.

#19 Posted by chiq (1204 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Buckshot said:

@chiq said:
kang travels back in time and kills magneto before he got his powers. Seriously without pis it should be really tough to beat a time traveler..
Kang, at least how I think of him being characterized, wouldn't do that. I remember Kang teaching his son that time was the battlefield not the weapon (or something to that effect, I think I'll have to look that up) when he suggested a similar battle strategy against the Avengers and conquering opponents at their best and fighting equally with them is such a big part of his character (he takes on Ultron at his best and engages Captain America in combat Cap can actually compete in because he enjoys it more) that I think he'd take on Magneto as an adult fully in control of his powers. And I think he'd win.
There has only ever been one problem with Kang. His horrendous costume. Aside from that, he is perfect.

Yup. I agree.. I remember that issue. It's not in his character to do it, he does not feel there is any honor and challenge in doing such a thing.

#20 Posted by MagneticShockwave (1245 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

@MagneticShockwave said:
@nickthedevil said:
@MagneticShockwave: no he doesn't. the doom thing was a betrayal, not a stand up to him fight.
and Kang is more cunning than Mags, so thats not helping here.
The Doom thing wasn't just a betrayal. Kang went on trying to persuade Doom on joining him because Doom had the means for his plans, also claiming to be Dr. Doom's son. Doom is just to cleaver to not fall for such trickery. It was Kang who betrayed Doom and Doom was already prepared to defeat Kang. Kang's prep is also ridiculously long because he goes back in time (via time machine) and spends years upon years getting his plans in movement unlike Doom whose every step is worth a 1000 years of prep. Dr. Doom also claims that Magneto is an even more worthy opponent given his power set, will power and cunning mind. GIve Magneto a time machine too and Magneto will blow Kang out of the time stream.
we're talking the Infinity war right? if so, then thats not how it went down. Doom and Kang DID join forces. and in the middle of their fight against Magus, Doom stabbed Kang in the back (figuratively) and was himself beaten by Magus before he could kill Doom.
Mags does not have a time machine sooooo....

They did a team up more than twice. I think about 5 times from what I can remember and the Infinity War was one of them, but I'm talking about the time when they 1st met, Kang came to Doom in suggestion that he was his son/grandson from the future.

#21 Posted by Buckshot (18201 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@MagneticShockwave: Your scan doesn't support the point you made. It really doesn't...

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#22 Edited by madrid_san (1793 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Manchine: didn't magneto's hold up to Thor and Galactus? YES IT DID! :D and Magneto wins.

#23 Posted by emperorznb (1673 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@madrid_san said:

@Manchine: didn't magneto's hold up to Thor and Galactus? YES IT DID! :D and Magneto wins.

Yes it did... he held his shield on a weakened Galactus. Not much of a feat. Even Reed Richards can scare a weakened Galactus. Thor had already bypassed Magneto's shield. Weaker characters have already penetrated his shield namely Cyclops.

#24 Posted by Docnick (10454 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@MagneticShockwave said:

@nickthedevil said:
@MagneticShockwave said:
@nickthedevil said:
@MagneticShockwave: no he doesn't. the doom thing was a betrayal, not a stand up to him fight.
and Kang is more cunning than Mags, so thats not helping here.
The Doom thing wasn't just a betrayal. Kang went on trying to persuade Doom on joining him because Doom had the means for his plans, also claiming to be Dr. Doom's son. Doom is just to cleaver to not fall for such trickery. It was Kang who betrayed Doom and Doom was already prepared to defeat Kang. Kang's prep is also ridiculously long because he goes back in time (via time machine) and spends years upon years getting his plans in movement unlike Doom whose every step is worth a 1000 years of prep. Dr. Doom also claims that Magneto is an even more worthy opponent given his power set, will power and cunning mind. GIve Magneto a time machine too and Magneto will blow Kang out of the time stream.
we're talking the Infinity war right? if so, then thats not how it went down. Doom and Kang DID join forces. and in the middle of their fight against Magus, Doom stabbed Kang in the back (figuratively) and was himself beaten by Magus before he could kill Doom.
Mags does not have a time machine sooooo....
They did a team up more than twice. I think about 5 times from what I can remember and the Infinity War was one of them, but I'm talking about the time when they 1st met, Kang came to Doom in suggestion that he was his son/grandson from the future.

no the infinity war was their first time. tthat was it.

#25 Posted by Docnick (10454 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@emperorznb said:

@madrid_san said:
@Manchine: didn't magneto's hold up to Thor and Galactus? YES IT DID! :D and Magneto wins.
Yes it did... he held his shield on a weakened Galactus. Not much of a feat. Even Reed Richards can scare a weakened Galactus. Thor had already bypassed Magneto's shield. Weaker characters have already penetrated his shield namely Cyclops.

HEY OH! :)

#26 Posted by ReVamp (22561 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Heh. Cute thread.

#27 Posted by madrid_san (1793 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

regardless Max wins

#28 Posted by emperorznb (1673 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@madrid_san: Unless Magneto's power could extend to manipulating the flow of time... Magneto is not gonna win this.

#29 Edited by Docnick (10454 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@madrid_san said:

regardless Max wins

Sorry bud, but no he doesn't. Magneto is outmatched, outskilled and outnumbered.

#30 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Kang.

#31 Posted by Manchine (2548 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@madrid_san said:

@Manchine: didn't magneto's hold up to Thor and Galactus? YES IT DID! :D and Magneto wins.

The only time Magneto has held up against Thor was when Thor had his strength reduced below half (The Scan had Thor with Dr. Druid in it). The only other time Magneto has fought Thor he admited his force field couldn't take but a couple of hits from Thor. He fought him one other time but they never really showed him using his force field against Thor.

#32 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (2889 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@emperorznb said:

@madrid_san said:
@Manchine: didn't magneto's hold up to Thor and Galactus? YES IT DID! :D and Magneto wins.
Yes it did... he held his shield on a weakened Galactus. Not much of a feat. Even Reed Richards can scare a weakened Galactus. Thor had already bypassed Magneto's shield. Weaker characters have already penetrated his shield namely Cyclops.

Yep. I think some people forget that in the grand scheme of the Marvel Universe, the X-Men are not as powerful as characters like Thor, Moondragon, etc. The only one that's come close is Jean/Phoenix, and she rarely interacted with the rest of the Marvel U.

#33 Edited by madrid_san (1793 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

That's debatable. Legion can give Thor a hell of a time. X-man at his best is an absolute beast. Iceman when he reaches his full potential is gonna be one scary dude.

Not saying they all beat Thor (Legion I see can beat him), I am a fan of his too and he kicks some serious ass and it pisses me off he had to die.

#34 Posted by gravitypress (2060 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Im gonna go with Kang here. He probably has a doo-hicki that would nullify Magneto's powers in some way.

#35 Edited by fondofpacman (566 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Kang.That guy used to be awesome, what a sweet classic character, I'd def give this one to him over Magneto...won't be a stomp but I'm just saying I'd take Kang, especially since almost all FantasticFour villains end up being stronger than XMen villains.

#36 Posted by Hoboseid (1022 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Kang sends Magneto into the end of time and Magneto dies as the universe implodes

#37 Posted by Freefa11 (2017 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@fondofpacman: Isn't Kang more of an Avengers villain?

Anyway, I haven't seen a lot of Kang, but I don't know if he could do this without prep. I mean, in both Secret Wars and Infinity War, Doom got the better of him, and I don't think Doom without prep could take Mags either. Maybe not a totally one-sided affair, but still, most of his power relying on electronics and metal is problematic. As far as I know, Kang is even more reliant, since Doom has actual magic to back himself up with.

Prep, of course, swings things heavily in favor of Kang, although he's still been beaten by the Avengers, so it's not like he's invincible, and his time traveling abilities either have some sort of limitations, or he's just not very good at using them to their full potential (or he has some strange concept of fair play he lives by). Comics being what they are, I could buy either explanation.

#38 Posted by emperorznb (1673 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Freefa11: His armor has all the things he need to take out Magneto...

#39 Edited by PhoenixoftheTides (2889 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@Freefa11 said:

@fondofpacman: Isn't Kang more of an Avengers villain?
Anyway, I haven't seen a lot of Kang, but I don't know if he could do this without prep. I mean, in both Secret Wars and Infinity War, Doom got the better of him, and I don't think Doom without prep could take Mags either. Maybe not a totally one-sided affair, but still, most of his power relying on electronics and metal is problematic. As far as I know, Kang is even more reliant, since Doom has actual magic to back himself up with.
Prep, of course, swings things heavily in favor of Kang, although he's still been beaten by the Avengers, so it's not like he's invincible, and his time traveling abilities either have some sort of limitations, or he's just not very good at using them to their full potential (or he has some strange concept of fair play he lives by). Comics being what they are, I could buy either explanation.

In general, I would say that Avengers villains are more powerful than X-Men's villains. The X-Men tend to beat up on humans who commit hate crimes, random evil mutants with vague schemes and each other.

#40 Posted by Freefa11 (2017 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

@PhoenixoftheTides: Yeah, that or Sentinels, Juggernaut, Mr. Sinister, Magneto, Apocalypse, Legion, Proteus, Onslaught, Strife, Dark Phoenix, etc.

#41 Posted by fondofpacman (566 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago - Show Bio

i've seen him a couple of times in FF, never read too much avengers...so maybe he is more of an avengers guy, i dunno...but in FF they made him out to be sort of a futuristic version of Doom, that alone just seems like it should be more than enough enough to take out a guy who's only power is magnetism. And his lack of magic i don't think gives doom much of a leg up, unless doom's gotten better at using his magic, he was content to be an amateur reguarding mystic powers.

#42 Posted by Soulstealer (825 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@fondofpacman said:

i've seen him a couple of times in FF, never read too much avengers...so maybe he is more of an avengers guy, i dunno...but in FF they made him out to be sort of a futuristic version of Doom, that alone just seems like it should be more than enough enough to take out a guy who's only power is magnetism. And his lack of magic i don't think gives doom much of a leg up, unless doom's gotten better at using his magic, he was content to be an amateur reguarding mystic powers.

Doom isn't an amateur in regard to mystic powers, he's almost been Sorcerer Supreme a few times now.

#43 Posted by izbighulk (561 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago - Show Bio

Kang ftw

#44 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago - Show Bio

@MrDirector786 said:

Kang

#45 Posted by fondofpacman (566 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@Soulstealer: I was really only referring to classic Doom; traditionally he was always the guy with massive intellect and some rudimentary sorcery thrown in for good luck. I haven't kept up with anything close to modern comics, so if this changed I was unaware. What magic has he been doing that's so impressive?

#46 Posted by Docnick (10454 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Kang Curb stomps

#47 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Kang.

#48 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (11766 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Kang stomps.

#49 Posted by Soulstealer (825 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@fondofpacman said:

@Soulstealer: I was really only referring to classic Doom; traditionally he was always the guy with massive intellect and some rudimentary sorcery thrown in for good luck. I haven't kept up with anything close to modern comics, so if this changed I was unaware. What magic has he been doing that's so impressive?

He and Dr. Strange have been rivals for a bit now but I guess it depends on what you consider Classic Doom. He's still a FF villain, but seriously Doom has been a more free range source of villainy for quite sometime.