#1 Posted by Mighty Magneto (13027 posts) - - Show Bio

Who wins in a fight Magneto or Dr. Doom

#2 Posted by Chediablo (101 posts) - - Show Bio

Technically, each of them could take the other out with one attack.

Doom is just more prone to do it first. Doc Doom 7/10

#3 Posted by Chediablo (101 posts) - - Show Bio

He never takes of his metal armor.

Yes, it's got magnetic and magical protections, but I wouldn't believe them strong enough to stop an out to kill Mags. That's a matter of perception, though. That's my take on it.

That being said, in character, we would see Doom do it waaaay more often.

#4 Posted by Buckshot (18685 posts) - - Show Bio

What single attack would defeat Doom?

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#5 Posted by Mighty Magneto (13027 posts) - - Show Bio

WHat one attack could each use take each other out

#6 Posted by Valkaad (2589 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto would crush Doom like a tin can...literally

#7 Posted by Buckshot (18685 posts) - - Show Bio

You're saying he knows to protect himself but is incapable of doing so well enough to prevent Magneto from killing him? You insult Doom.

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#8 Posted by Mighty Magneto (13027 posts) - - Show Bio

Hell yeah thats what i thought magneto crushing doom like tin can
Post Edited:2007-01-30 22:10:01

#9 Posted by Chediablo (101 posts) - - Show Bio

All out Mags has been known to affect matter on a molecular level, control the electro-magnetic spectrum, create emps (which technically should disable all electric activity, including muscle and brain functions), etc.

If Magneto is written correctly, there's no defense against him.

Of course, Doom is a master strategist and genius (so is Mags, but to a lesser extent). That's why I give advantage to Doom. He just doesn't take it every time.

#10 Posted by Buckshot (18685 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, let's just forget that Doom has Magneto-proofed his armor, that Doom has planned for this battle, that Doom is second in line to be Sorcer Supreme and Mags has no defense against magic, that Doom can switch minds with someone by looking at them, that Doom outwitted Mephisto, that Doom's a friggin genius, that Doom already beat Magneto, that Doom has battled gods, that Doom stole the power cosmic from Silver Surfer, that he fought Beyonder, that he can nullify powers, etc., etc. No disrespect to Magneto (love the guy, really) but this is Doom.

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#11 Posted by Mighty Magneto (13027 posts) - - Show Bio

How does Doom hurt Magneto

#12 Posted by Chediablo (101 posts) - - Show Bio

He's freakin' Doc Doom. That's how....

He's one of earth most powerful sorcerers (I think only Strange and Mordo are ahead). Magneto has no defense against that. I think they've fought in continuity once, and Doc Doom won.

Also, his armor makes him mad strong, fast, he's the type of character that can pull a DEM gadget out his butt and when you think you've got him beat, WROOOOOOONG, it was a doombot all along (Doubt that would work on Mags, though. He would do to doombots what he does to sentinels.).

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#14 Posted by Chediablo (101 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"Yeah, let's just forget that Doom has Magneto-proofed his armor, that Doom has planned for this battle, that Doom is second in line to be Sorcer Supreme and Mags has no defense against magic, that Doom can switch minds with someone by looking at them, that Doom outwitted Mephisto, that Doom's a friggin genius, that Doom already beat Magneto, that Doom has battled gods, that Doom stole the power cosmic from Silver Surfer, that he fought Beyonder, that he can nullify powers, etc., etc. No disrespect to Magneto (love the guy, really) but this is Doom."

Again, I gave advantage to Doom... But with a guy like Mags, no matter who you are, you just can't take it every single time... I'll post some scans later to show what he can do... Right now, I'm gonna get some dinner.

#15 Posted by The Voidwalker (272 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto attacks Doom. Doom gets crushed like a can. Magneto gets attacked from behind. Turns out the Doom he killed was only a doom-bot. The Real Doom takes off Mag's helmet and brain washes him with random hypno-machine. Mags goes on a killing spree and goes after the FF. FF take him down and send him to S.H.I.E.L.D. for detainment where most likely he'll escape and a bunch of random events will happen leading to nothing ever getting solved.

#16 Posted by Mighty Magneto (13027 posts) - - Show Bio

i think some forget what dooms armor and other devise are made out of METAL Mag's specialty

#17 Posted by Buckshot (18685 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, way to ignore what's been said.

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#18 Posted by Mighty Magneto (13027 posts) - - Show Bio

No not ignoring anything i understand dooms power

#19 Posted by Buckshot (18685 posts) - - Show Bio

If you say that Magneto will win based solely on the fact that Doom wears metal, you obviously don't.

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#20 Posted by Mighty Magneto (13027 posts) - - Show Bio

I just don't think doom beats a determined Magneto if you add in doom bots you got to add in magnetos allies too. i just want doom vs magneto head to head no outsiders
Post Edited:2007-01-30 22:45:22

#21 Posted by Mighty Magneto (13027 posts) - - Show Bio

If its clear Doom wins i admit defeat i just want people to think about it. Different things that could happen.

#22 Posted by Buckshot (18685 posts) - - Show Bio

I never mentioned Doombots did I? All the things I mentioned in my third post are things Doom did.

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#23 Posted by Mighty Magneto (13027 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok what do you think which magic does doom use

#24 Posted by Buckshot (18685 posts) - - Show Bio

It doesn't matter what he chooses to use because it will all work. He could turn Magneto into a rock, send him to hell, light him on (magical) fire, remove his heart, summon a demon for him to fight, I don't know what he would do, I just know that he has wicked crazy magic that Magneto has no defence against. Pretty much anything Dr. Strange could do, Doom could do, and it doesn't even need to be Strange-level magic. All Doom really needs to do is look Magneto in the eye and boom, he steals his body.

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#25 Posted by The Voidwalker (272 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"I just know that he has wicked crazy magic that Magneto has no defence against. Pretty much anything Dr. Strange could do, Doom could do"

Reminds me of that one issue of "What If..." when Doctor Doom became Sorceror Supreme. Think it was #52, im not sure.

#26 Posted by Chediablo (101 posts) - - Show Bio

Back... but I see that this has deviated from a friendly conversation... I'll save my scans for later. ò__ó

#27 Posted by Raif (360 posts) - - Show Bio

I really hate all powerful people. I don't even really read comics with them in it inless they are not a bad guy.. All powerful it boring. I like ultimate Doctor Doom cus from what I seen hes not crazy powerful.

#28 Posted by valinorbob (51 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't forget, Doom has the Time Platform...
Post Edited:2007-01-31 02:52:59

#29 Posted by Ebony Bishop (748 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, in all fairness, it's not like Doom's never been beaten by people you normally assume can't. It's not like he's not had his lights punched out by the Black Panther recently, a man with no powers. He regularly gets beat by the Fantastic Four, none of whom are as powerful as Magneto (well, maybe Sue).

If you put the stats on paper, yes, Doom is more powerful. But the writers have a way of getting around that.

Remember: Dazzler beat Dr. Doom. Squirrel Girl beat Dr. Doom. Not Doombots. Dr. Doom himself.

#30 Posted by Buckshot (18685 posts) - - Show Bio

Squirrel Girl also took down Thanos and you just wrote about how powerful Dazzler is, so I don't think losing to these two is a bad thing for Doom.

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#31 Posted by Ebony Bishop (748 posts) - - Show Bio

Heh heh...I just wanted to reiterate that any good writer could come up with a conceivable and believable way for their pick to beat someone more powerful. In one appearance, a writer had Magneto pull out Wolverine's skeleton. In another, Wolverine beats on Magneto for three pages before anything happens. It's just the writer's idea.

Reed has gone one on one with Dr. Doom and won. Reed is nowhere near as powerful as Magneto. It's just the writing.

I think losing to Dazzler while in disco make-up and wearing rollerskates is a bad thing no matter what. :)

#32 Posted by Sync (960 posts) - - Show Bio

DOOM WINS but see below...

Great topic, as stated doom as smart but to smart for his on good, he has alwsy let his smartness get th better of him and THIS AND THIS ALONG is why he alwasy really losing.

Ol mag i hate to say is a good ol boy, hes not scared to wing it and does not really outsmart himself for his on good

screw that, they fight as they are, screw the planning, doom reminds me of alyoplse of however you spell it, in age of alyolse( where he beats mag and goats, and mag rips him in 2, the same would happen with victor von doom, pick up issues he is always doc doom, victor van doom, he would be so busy goating , that he would not relieze that mags ahd putt a polar bubble around supercharing it and than pop it letting doom be expouse to earth polar and short ciruit his nervous system and sling him to the sun thxs to laws of mags

im sure it was just a doom bot, or doom somehow teleport to a safe place of magic, and his magic blows...

#33 Posted by GL Bertron (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

If Magneto had the element of surprise he might win, but if he screwed up he would lose. Of sending metal robots top fight him would accomplish nothing but wasting both of their time and energy. Doom had to build them didn't he.

#34 Posted by chemical boy (163 posts) - - Show Bio

Valkaad says:

"Magneto would crush Doom like a tin can...literally"

Agreed Doom has metal all over his body soooo do the math lol

Magneto all the way.

CB

#35 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

This is cleary nothing more than a ego trip, so I say Doom wins. Magneto falls asleep at the wheel and crashs before reaching the fight, so when he dosent show Doom is declared the winner.

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#37 Posted by eisernkreuz (23 posts) - - Show Bio

DOOM

#38 Posted by Rotten gun (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

so hulk wins then.

#39 Posted by Buckshot (18685 posts) - - Show Bio

Was there some reason you needed to mention Hulk?

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#40 Posted by Walkingstone (10723 posts) - - Show Bio
#41 Posted by Buckshot (18685 posts) - - Show Bio

WHY does Hulk need to be in this thread?

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#42 Posted by Walkingstone (10723 posts) - - Show Bio

He doesn't, I was just bored and felt the need to share. :P I shall go away now and pout in the corner.

#43 Posted by Rotten gun (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"Was there some reason you needed to mention Hulk?"

no not really... i have a habit of being annoying :)

#44 Posted by Captain of 11th Squad (17 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom wins. the good doctor is one of the most powerful sorceres on earth and Magnus has no defenses against that.

#45 Posted by Boken (7757 posts) - - Show Bio

magneto would crush dooms armor but then dooms majic kicks in game over.

#46 Posted by Klaw (140 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom can repel the magnetic thingy on his armor stopping magneto from making it his coffin in the comic doom almost killed magneto but ghost rider stoped him.

#47 Posted by Darth Balls (691 posts) - - Show Bio

magneto coul beat Dr. doom with no hands while taking a crap and spinnig around in a circle and while Being blinfolded, Reciting the canadian pledge of allegiance backward in chinees while killing 30000 sentinals.and itching his ass with his leg.

#48 Posted by The_Absolute (892 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom has already beaten Magneto. Even if the fight never happens. Doom isn't just intelligent. That dude is INTELLIGENT! He's already devised a plan in the likelihood of fighting Mag with every possibly scenario covered. In fact I'm sure he's even got a plan to take Magneto's power when he needs it. WHENEVER he needs it, and not just Mag's, but most of the villains in every comic universe because, yes, Doom is aware of them all.

The only reason Doom loses is because he's a bad guy and God is a good guy, therefore good always wins in the end. Otherwise, Doom wins every battle every time, on sheer strategy and intelligence alone.

#49 Posted by Jean_Luc_LeBeau (84704 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto is no dummy. Just throwing that out there.

#50 Posted by Sling Shot (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto has had better writers than Doom, giving him more flaws.....I just made a nation of enemies.
Post Edited:2007-11-20 04:06:49