Random encounter, no prep, morals on, fighting to the best of their abilities, 100 ft apart, who wins?
Magneto vs Cloak
Cloak has engulfed Thanos in his Dark Dimension while Thanos was wearing the Infinity Gauntlet. So its more than likely that Magneto will be engulfed as well. The next question is could Magneto survive the dark dimension "facing his worst fears" while Cloak simultaneously drains the life force out of Magneto.
" @hydrabob said:Cloak wins, because Magneto has no defense or way of stopping him" cloak cuz magneto has defense for teleporters "I'm confused...who do you think will win here? "
" @Mr Creesy said:I'm no Magneto expert, but surely Magneto can do something to save himself, right?" @hydrabob said:Cloak wins, because Magneto has no defense or way of stopping him "" cloak cuz magneto has defense for teleporters "I'm confused...who do you think will win here? "
" @hydrabob said:while that is interesting how does that affect this fight" @Mr Creesy said:light manipulation, visable light on in the EM spectrum.. "" @hydrabob said:Cloak wins, because Magneto has no defense or way of stopping him "" cloak cuz magneto has defense for teleporters "I'm confused...who do you think will win here? "
" @hydrabob said:Magneto can manipulate light?" @Mr Creesy said:light manipulation, visable light on in the EM spectrum.. "" @hydrabob said:Cloak wins, because Magneto has no defense or way of stopping him "" cloak cuz magneto has defense for teleporters "I'm confused...who do you think will win here? "
" @difficlus said:he should be able...of course since it is on the EM spectrum and he can manipulate, he is not just a guy who throws around metal ya know...lol@hydrabob said:" @hydrabob said:Magneto can manipulate light? "" @Mr Creesy said:light manipulation, visable light on in the EM spectrum.. "" @hydrabob said:Cloak wins, because Magneto has no defense or way of stopping him "" cloak cuz magneto has defense for teleporters "I'm confused...who do you think will win here? "
" @difficlus said:bombardment of light should weaken him..." @hydrabob said:while that is interesting how does that affect this fight "" @Mr Creesy said:light manipulation, visable light on in the EM spectrum.. "" @hydrabob said:Cloak wins, because Magneto has no defense or way of stopping him "" cloak cuz magneto has defense for teleporters "I'm confused...who do you think will win here? "
" @difficlus: Cloak does not have to absorb light if he does not wish to. If a bombardment of light could weaken him he would never be able to use his powers in the day light because he would continuously absorb the sun's light. "really? i thought pure light hurt him
either way i'm leaning on magneto...:P
" @hydrabob said:can i get some more info" @difficlus: has he ever shown the ability to manipulate light? "well...let me see... yep yes he has i dont have scans though "
like what issue it was? or how he did it or needed to do it? what was the context of him doing it?
theres one where he deflects light off him while fighting the x men...wait here are scans" @difficlus said:
can i get some more info like what issue it was? or how he did it or needed to do it? what was the context of him doing it? "" @hydrabob said:
" @difficlus: has he ever shown the ability to manipulate light? "well...let me see... yep yes he has i dont have scans though "
I posted the fight with Dr. Doom to give everyone an idea what Magneto will face once he gets engulfed, because that's exactly what will happen. I stated before that Cloak has engulfed Thanos while Thanos was wearing the infinity gauntlet. So there should be no doubt in anyone's mind if Cloak can capture Magneto. The real question is, can Magneto escape the dark dimension? I'm starting to think he can't.
and even so i don't think there is any light of him to manipulate in a place called the "Dark Dimension"
" @difficlus: that looks more like him using his shields to deflect the light away and even so i don't think there is any light of him to manipulate in a place called the "Dark Dimension" "no he deflected the photons away as he said...any way i never said he would try to make light inside of the dimension. Of course does Cloak always start battles with that?...
" @hydrabob said:well from what i've seen from cloak it's kinda his only move" @difficlus: that looks more like him using his shields to deflect the light away and even so i don't think there is any light of him to manipulate in a place called the "Dark Dimension" "no he deflected the photons away as he said...any way i never said he would try to make light inside of the dimension. Of course does Cloak always start battles with that?... "
what if magneto bfr's him before he can, or rapes his brain (he still has atoms right?) lor w/e..." @difficlus said:
" @hydrabob said:well from what i've seen from cloak it's kinda his only move "" @difficlus: that looks more like him using his shields to deflect the light away and even so i don't think there is any light of him to manipulate in a place called the "Dark Dimension" "no he deflected the photons away as he said...any way i never said he would try to make light inside of the dimension. Of course does Cloak always start battles with that?... "
" @difficlus: i suppose he could do any of those things to him but I think cloak would attempt to put him in the dark dimension before magneto would try to do something like that "can't he teleport out while he is getting sucked in, its not like magneto will just stand there and let it happen, plus he has those shields of his...
" @hydrabob said:well I think cloak could engulf his shields as well. and I don't see how a person is affected by magnetic fields." @difficlus: i suppose he could do any of those things to him but I think cloak would attempt to put him in the dark dimension before magneto would try to do something like that "can't he teleport out while he is getting sucked in, its not like magneto will just stand there and let it happen, plus he has those shields of his... "
how is magneto going to teleport?
" @difficlus said:lol..."how is Magneto going to teleport" , that's what I was thinking." @hydrabob said:well I think cloak could engulf his shields as well. and I don't see how a person is affected by magnetic fields. how is magneto going to teleport? "" @difficlus: i suppose he could do any of those things to him but I think cloak would attempt to put him in the dark dimension before magneto would try to do something like that "can't he teleport out while he is getting sucked in, its not like magneto will just stand there and let it happen, plus he has those shields of his... "
" @hydrabob said:wormhole...and he can teleport other objects, im sure he wont stand there and let himself get sucked into some guys chest..." @difficlus said:lol..."how is Magneto going to teleport" , that's what I was thinking. "" @hydrabob said:well I think cloak could engulf his shields as well. and I don't see how a person is affected by magnetic fields. how is magneto going to teleport? "" @difficlus: i suppose he could do any of those things to him but I think cloak would attempt to put him in the dark dimension before magneto would try to do something like that "can't he teleport out while he is getting sucked in, its not like magneto will just stand there and let it happen, plus he has those shields of his... "
" @Mr Creesy said:Magneto can create wormholes?" @hydrabob said:wormhole...and he can teleport other objects, im sure he wont stand there and let himself get sucked into some guys chest... "" @difficlus said:lol..."how is Magneto going to teleport" , that's what I was thinking. "" @hydrabob said:well I think cloak could engulf his shields as well. and I don't see how a person is affected by magnetic fields. how is magneto going to teleport? "" @difficlus: i suppose he could do any of those things to him but I think cloak would attempt to put him in the dark dimension before magneto would try to do something like that "can't he teleport out while he is getting sucked in, its not like magneto will just stand there and let it happen, plus he has those shields of his... "
i think that is a little beyond his power level
" @difficlus said:dude he can since a long time...and his shields are no push over, they have taken multiple nukes without even sligtly blucking and took blasts from a pissed galactus and allowed him to survive in space, taken blasts that have rattles up Thor and blasts from captain universe spider man, blocked off psionic energy attacks and telekinetic blasts from jean grey pheonix (who was not holding back) . Its not easily to suddenly absorb them as even pheonic jean grey couldnt remove them..." @Mr Creesy said:Magneto can create wormholes? i think that is a little beyond his power level "" @hydrabob said:wormhole...and he can teleport other objects, im sure he wont stand there and let himself get sucked into some guys chest... "" @difficlus said:lol..."how is Magneto going to teleport" , that's what I was thinking. "" @hydrabob said:well I think cloak could engulf his shields as well. and I don't see how a person is affected by magnetic fields. how is magneto going to teleport? "" @difficlus: i suppose he could do any of those things to him but I think cloak would attempt to put him in the dark dimension before magneto would try to do something like that "can't he teleport out while he is getting sucked in, its not like magneto will just stand there and let it happen, plus he has those shields of his... "
" @Mr Creesy said:Cloak would be on you before you even had a chance to run away. Also, its not like Cloak is going to slowly creep on you, announcing that he his going to pull you into his dark dimension either. He will always use the element of surprise. Combined with Cloak's ability to teleport and hide in the shadows, Magneto will most certainly be engulfed. Once you understand this, you will begin to focus on how does Magneto get out rather than how does Magneto avoid capture. Thanos with the infinity gauntlet was captured = Magneto gets captured. Lastly, there might not even be a magnetic field in the dark dimension for Magneto to manipulate. Its debatable, but its an idea." @hydrabob said:wormhole...and he can teleport other objects, im sure he wont stand there and let himself get sucked into some guys chest... "" @difficlus said:lol..."how is Magneto going to teleport" , that's what I was thinking. "" @hydrabob said:well I think cloak could engulf his shields as well. and I don't see how a person is affected by magnetic fields. how is magneto going to teleport? "" @difficlus: i suppose he could do any of those things to him but I think cloak would attempt to put him in the dark dimension before magneto would try to do something like that "can't he teleport out while he is getting sucked in, its not like magneto will just stand there and let it happen, plus he has those shields of his... "
" @difficlus said:what? Thanos even met Cloak, i dont remember this" @Mr Creesy said:Cloak would be on you before you even had a chance to run away. Also, its not like Cloak is going to slowly creep on you, announcing that he his going to pull you into his dark dimension either. He will always use the element of surprise. Combined with Cloak's ability to teleport and hide in the shadows, Magneto will most certainly be engulfed. Once you understand this, you will begin to focus on how does Magneto get out rather than how does Magneto avoid capture. Thanos with the infinity gauntlet was captured = Magneto gets captured. Lastly, there might not even be a magnetic field in the dark dimension for Magneto to manipulate. Its debatable, but its an idea. "" @hydrabob said:wormhole...and he can teleport other objects, im sure he wont stand there and let himself get sucked into some guys chest... "" @difficlus said:lol..."how is Magneto going to teleport" , that's what I was thinking. "" @hydrabob said:well I think cloak could engulf his shields as well. and I don't see how a person is affected by magnetic fields. how is magneto going to teleport? "" @difficlus: i suppose he could do any of those things to him but I think cloak would attempt to put him in the dark dimension before magneto would try to do something like that "can't he teleport out while he is getting sucked in, its not like magneto will just stand there and let it happen, plus he has those shields of his... "
Ok magneto has enhances reflexes times 15 of a peak humans so the element of surprise isn't there. and secondly Magneto can do this while Cloak is trying to absorb him...its not difficult since he has enhanced reaction time and thought processing...
" @hydrabob said:@hydrabob said:what if magneto bfr's him before he can, or rapes his brain (he still has atoms right?) lor w/e... "" @difficlus said:
" @hydrabob said:well from what i've seen from cloak it's kinda his only move "" @difficlus: that looks more like him using his shields to deflect the light away and even so i don't think there is any light of him to manipulate in a place called the "Dark Dimension" "no he deflected the photons away as he said...any way i never said he would try to make light inside of the dimension. Of course does Cloak always start battles with that?... "
" @difficlus: i suppose he could do any of those things to him but I think cloak would attempt to put him in the dark dimension before magneto would try to do something like that "My thoughts exactly.
" @difficlus said:Magneto would get the first word, he has the upper hand in reflexes and thought processing power...plus he is much more expereinced and ruthless..." @hydrabob said:@hydrabob said:what if magneto bfr's him before he can, or rapes his brain (he still has atoms right?) lor w/e... "" @difficlus said:
" @hydrabob said:well from what i've seen from cloak it's kinda his only move "" @difficlus: that looks more like him using his shields to deflect the light away and even so i don't think there is any light of him to manipulate in a place called the "Dark Dimension" "no he deflected the photons away as he said...any way i never said he would try to make light inside of the dimension. Of course does Cloak always start battles with that?... "" @difficlus: i suppose he could do any of those things to him but I think cloak would attempt to put him in the dark dimension before magneto would try to do something like that "My thoughts exactly. "
Magneto got this...forgot his reflexes were high till dfficlus said it..he would be able to react before cloak could do anything
" @difficlus: dude Thanos is a titan he is way above magneto in reaction time and thought processing since he fights people that move faster light on a regular basis "i know...what are you talking about? its Messenger that said Thanos got captured i wasn't aware he even met cloak while he had the IG...
and for the record im pretty sure magneto can teleport between dimensions to. so the dark force dimension might be null...
" @hydrabob said:you were talking about how he is so smart and how his reaction time is so high if Cloak was able to get Thanos who is way higher than magneto then he can get Magneto." @difficlus: dude Thanos is a titan he is way above magneto in reaction time and thought processing since he fights people that move faster light on a regular basis "i know...what are you talking about? its Messenger that said Thanos got captured i wasn't aware he even met cloak while he had the IG... and for the record im pretty sure magneto can teleport between dimensions to. so the dark force dimension might be null... "
" @difficlus said:when did cloak get thanos? and when did this happen while thanos had the IG?" @hydrabob said:you were talking about how he is so smart and how his reaction time is so high if Cloak was able to get Thanos who is way higher than magneto then he can get Magneto. "" @difficlus: dude Thanos is a titan he is way above magneto in reaction time and thought processing since he fights people that move faster light on a regular basis "i know...what are you talking about? its Messenger that said Thanos got captured i wasn't aware he even met cloak while he had the IG... and for the record im pretty sure magneto can teleport between dimensions to. so the dark force dimension might be null... "
" @difficlus: I'm searching for the scans as we speak. Thanos was engulfed. What I failed to mention was that Thanos killed Cloak after he was engulfed, but who didn't Thanos kill while he had the infinity gauntlet. "if thanos with the IG got sucked in that is piss, he could have easily erased cloak form exsistance, it fact its amusing street level heroes are meddling in marvel cosmics. sorry but this goes against consistent showing of cloak, from fighting drug lords to owning Thanos with the IG, who SS and Strange and all those heavy weight had trouble with and who slaughtered death ( a semi abstract). sorry i can't accept that as a consistent power level showing...
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