#1 Posted by SavageBeast (330 posts) - - Show Bio
Magneto
 Adam Warlock
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Location & Rules

- Location ; New York City. 
- Morals off for Magneto. 
- Morals on for Adam. 
- No prep.  
- K.O. or Death FTW. 
#2 Posted by thestarguy (351 posts) - - Show Bio

Which version of Warlock? With which power set?

#3 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

Adam's power is far too great for Magneto.

#4 Posted by Hyperlight (5713 posts) - - Show Bio

adam warlock doesnt seem to be that great.. he usually uses the power of the soul gem... but id give it to mags because adam wont go all out

#5 Edited by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hyperlight said:

adam warlock doesnt seem to be that great.. he usually uses the power of the soul gem... but id give it to mags because adam wont go all out

#6 Edited by NeonGameWave (7712 posts) - - Show Bio

Adam stomps. He is a lot more powerful and I don`t see how Magneto`s abilities would ultimately help him.

#7 Posted by Hyperlight (5713 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: you are right im trippin.. plus new warlock is dope too

#8 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hyperlight said:

@jeanroygrant: you are right im trippin.. plus new warlock is dope too

Lol, yep

#9 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hyperlight said:

@jeanroygrant: you are right im trippin.. plus new warlock is dope too

I actually agree with your initial assessment, Adam Warlock main powers have always been soul gem related, and like you said he generally uses the soul gem. The OP is the most recent version of Adam Warlock, who does not have soul gem, he lost his soul gem after he came back to life during War of Kings story arc.

Without the gem Adam isnt as powerful as one would think, he still has pretty awesome energy manipulation, but from what we have seen him do offensively Magneto's shield could take it.

I think its a lot closer than what people think.

@czarny_samael666 said:

Adam's power is far too great for Magneto.

Based on?

#10 Posted by Bo88gdan (4397 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto can win this

#11 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

Adam wrecks him IMO. Didn't he beat the Silver Surfer a few times?

#12 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

@CalebHara said:

Adam wrecks him IMO. Didn't he beat the Silver Surfer a few times?

He hasnt beaten Silver Surfer, in fact they have never fought till date, unless you are thinking about Magus from Annihilation: Earthfall. Different character, different power level.

#13 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Really? i swear i have seen Adam beating the Surfer somewhere.

#14 Edited by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

@CalebHara said:

@Killemall: Really? i swear i have seen Adam beating the Surfer somewhere.

I am surprised, i have read most of his issue, but i know i am missing 6 of them and i am quite certain i have read virtually every appearence of Silver Surfer before November 2011. Also if he has actually beaten Surfer, which i am finding a little strange but lets assume he has, its a complete outlier to all his other feats. Adam was clearly losing against Hercules before Vision helped, Adam was also clearly being dominated by Dr. Doom (without any amp, coz with amp that guy dominates everyone :p ) , has struggled against Man Beat and most of his exotic powers like soul manipulation, matter manipulation were all tied into soul gem.

Also to think of it, you might be referring to the instance Adam Warlock met Surfer in the soul world, if so Surfer was completely powerless there as power cosmic does not extend to soul world.

#15 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: Thats probably what i was thinking of, thanks for expanding my knowledge on the subject though, lol.

#16 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

@CalebHara said:

@Killemall: Thats probably what i was thinking of, thanks for expanding my knowledge on the subject though, lol.

No problem always a pleasure.

If you like warlock, check this thread out :)

http://www.comicvine.com/adam-warlock/29-6805/warlock-chronology-feats/92-740295/

#17 Posted by dondave (36562 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto ftw

#18 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall said:

@Hyperlight said:

@jeanroygrant: you are right im trippin.. plus new warlock is dope too

I actually agree with your initial assessment, Adam Warlock main powers have always been soul gem related, and like you said he generally uses the soul gem. The OP is the most recent version of Adam Warlock, who does not have soul gem, he lost his soul gem after he came back to life during War of Kings story arc.

Without the gem Adam isnt as powerful as one would think, he still has pretty awesome energy manipulation, but from what we have seen him do offensively Magneto's shield could take it.

I think its a lot closer than what people think.

@czarny_samael666 said:

Adam's power is far too great for Magneto.

Based on?

On ability to create shields strong enough to survive in heart of star. And IIRC explosion of it. Warlock is also matter manipulator, since he created metal that accroding to GoG never existed in Earth-616 (don't ask me about that their knowledge, I doubt it actuallt matters if it existed or no). 
Way in which he defeated Phalanx Select, shows that his offensive abilities are pretty good. He was also able to defeat some witch from Imperial Guard. I don't recall his other feats for know. Not that I belive he need them, but Magus' feats should count as well, since Magus is Warlock. At least one who made an "ignition".
#19 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

On ability to create shields strong enough to survive in heart of star. And IIRC explosion of it. Warlock is also matter manipulator, since he created metal that accroding to GoG never existed in Earth-616 (don't ask me about that their knowledge, I doubt it actuallt matters if it existed or no). Way in which he defeated Phalanx Select, shows that his offensive abilities are pretty good. He was also able to defeat some witch from Imperial Guard. I don't recall his other feats for know. Not that I belive he need them, but Magus' feats should count as well, since Magus is Warlock. At least one who made an "ignition".

Warlock matter manipulation was tied down to soul gem something he no longer has with him. Also i dont remember him creating a shield after losing the gem, might i ask which instance you are talking about.

Magus feat does not coulnt because Magus is what Warlock will become eventually , in a future timeline, and most important its 2 different power level.

#20 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

On ability to create shields strong enough to survive in heart of star. And IIRC explosion of it. Warlock is also matter manipulator, since he created metal that accroding to GoG never existed in Earth-616 (don't ask me about that their knowledge, I doubt it actuallt matters if it existed or no). Way in which he defeated Phalanx Select, shows that his offensive abilities are pretty good. He was also able to defeat some witch from Imperial Guard. I don't recall his other feats for know. Not that I belive he need them, but Magus' feats should count as well, since Magus is Warlock. At least one who made an "ignition".

Warlock matter manipulation was tied down to soul gem something he no longer has with him. Also i dont remember him creating a shield after losing the gem, might i ask which instance you are talking about.

Magus feat does not coulnt because Magus is what Warlock will become eventually , in a future timeline, and most important its 2 different power level.

1.Shield and matter manipulation: 
Adam Warlock creating a new metal

 
First scan - they're coming to HE.
Second and third - they flying from his destryoed star. They survived - I assume that thanks to Warlock's shields too.
2.LAst Magus was Warlock. Adam was transforming into him during GoG normally. It was the same person, because this version of Warlock was one that was belived to lead Church of Universal Truth to Canncerverse.
#21 Posted by Captain_Awesome85 (452 posts) - - Show Bio

Warlock FTW cosmic almost always beats Earth mutants

#22 Edited by Ddecourt (803 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

I actually agree with your initial assessment, Adam Warlock main powers have always been soul gem related, and like you said he generally uses the soul gem. The OP is the most recent version of Adam Warlock, who does not have soul gem, he lost his soul gem after he came back to life during War of Kings story arc.

Without the gem Adam isnt as powerful as one would think, he still has pretty awesome energy manipulation, but from what we have seen him do offensively Magneto's shield could take it.

I think its a lot closer than what people think.

#23 Posted by boschePG (2276 posts) - - Show Bio

I too think this is a closer battle then most think. Most people will probably side with Adam Warlock just for the simple fact that he is "space" bound. The new Adam Warlock is far weaker. With the OPs guidelines, Magneto has no morals while Warlock has his morals on. Warlock couldnt handle all the death from Annihilation and coccooned himself. Isnt that Magneto's history on a smaller scale? For his people, Magneto will draw that line in the sand to perserve mutantkind. Also, Adam Warlock has seizures if he gets tired. Magique from the Shi'ar was able to tag Warlock, showing me the dude isnt the greatest It is said Magneto can use the entire electromagnetic spectrum. Ive never seen it, but if so, Magneto can win this. I would say 55%Magneto 45% Adam Warlock

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#24 Posted by duderkyle (117 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto drops buildings on Warlock.

#25 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@duderkyle said:

Magneto drops buildings on Warlock.

And nothing happens. Warlock survived fly to heart of star.
@boschePG
He is actually much more powerfull. He has matter manipulation and shields that were able to protect him and his friends from explosion of star.
#26 Posted by boschePG (2276 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666: I understand that and I dig Adam Warlock but the whole cocoon thing in times of great stress is a major drawback in this fight. Just check out vine's Adam Warlock respect thread. If I recall correctly, want the shield backed by the Church and its faith engines.

All Im saying is that Adam Warlock is good but he needs other things to aide him in feats I have seen

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#27 Posted by lol (4621 posts) - - Show Bio

Adam

#28 Posted by jagernutt (2464 posts) - - Show Bio

Adam stomps. He is a lot more powerful and I don`t see how Magneto`s abilities would ultimately help him.

this

#29 Posted by ShootingNova (16293 posts) - - Show Bio

Adam Warlock.

#30 Posted by yodagod (2285 posts) - - Show Bio

I will fight for Mags against almost anyone all day any day. Magneto is my all time favorite character. I know him inside and out, and I can make legit arguments for him beating many top tier characters. Adam Warlock is not one of them. As much as it pains me to say it...Adam Warlock outclasses Magneto by just too much. Adam wins. And he wins pretty easily.

#31 Posted by Experio (15375 posts) - - Show Bio

Warlock