Magneto & Nightcrawler vs Martian Manhunter

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#1  Edited By TheMinister

Morals: Off

No prep!

Win: Death or KO

Magneto's helmet can not be removed in either Round.

Round 1: Same as above.

Round 2: Same as above but Martian cant go intangible.

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#2  Edited By gunmetalgrey

Has Magneto's force field been shown to repel intangibles? I'm assuming it can work on MM since his type of intangibility involves lowering his density which means he still has at least some molecules that can be blocked by the field. The next question is can it tank Superman level hits?

Kurt will probably have to keep 'porting constantly throughout the match to avoid getting blitzed and to keep his mind from getting locked onto for a TP attack.

My guess is Manhunter will win.. eventually..

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#3  Edited By Shisho_The_Fist

@gunmetalgrey: Agreed, kurt's pretty useless in this matchup since the martian will do away with him quickly. This is basically Magneto vs The Martian. The field should work on the martian for the reason you've stated.Even lowering his density his molecules can still be blocked by mags em field, Mags shield has taken some heavily loads from nukes,asteroids, and many other things so his shield holds up quite well. How long he can keep up his shield during the duration of the bout is the issue. Once the shield is down he'll be at the martians mercy.

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#4  Edited By IncludedPharoh

What could Martian do to Kurt? He wouldnt be able to lock onto him because he is constantly teleporting. Im sure Kurt would do some damage to Martian Manhunter. I dont think Kurt is useless. He would probably die and have it come down to Mags vs a weak Martian.... but Kurt could do something.

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#5  Edited By ThatThorFan

@IncludedPharoh said:

What could Martian do to Kurt? He wouldnt be able to lock onto him because he is constantly teleporting. Im sure Kurt would do some damage to Martian Manhunter. I dont think Kurt is useless. He would probably die and have it come down to Mags vs a weak Martian.... but Kurt could do something.

I agree.... however Martian would eventually gain control of Kurt and could use him to his advantage. I can see this going either way but Martian 6/10

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#6  Edited By gunmetalgrey

@IncludedPharoh said:

What could Martian do to Kurt? He wouldnt be able to lock onto him because he is constantly teleporting. Im sure Kurt would do some damage to Martian Manhunter. I dont think Kurt is useless. He would probably die and have it come down to Mags vs a weak Martian.... but Kurt could do something.

Kurt will have the same problem locking on 'cause of MM's speed.

What could Martian do to Kurt? Kurt stops porting for even a split-second to try to mount some kind of attack and MM puts him in a comma.

What could Kurt possibly do against Manhunter's durability?

Try 'porting away Manhunter's leg, arm, head? He grows it all back in seconds.

What will Kurt do when MM goes intangible?

At most, Kurt is gonna be an annoyance, and this really hurts me to say since he's in my top 3 favorite X-Men..

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#7  Edited By IncludedPharoh

@gunmetalgrey said:

@IncludedPharoh said:

What could Martian do to Kurt? He wouldnt be able to lock onto him because he is constantly teleporting. Im sure Kurt would do some damage to Martian Manhunter. I dont think Kurt is useless. He would probably die and have it come down to Mags vs a weak Martian.... but Kurt could do something.

Kurt will have the same problem locking on 'cause of MM's speed.

What could Martian do to Kurt? Kurt stops porting for even a split-second to try to mount some kind of attack and MM puts him in a comma.

What could Kurt possibly do against Manhunter's durability?

Try 'porting away Manhunter's leg, arm, head? He grows it all back in seconds.

What will Kurt do when MM goes intangible?

At most, Kurt is gonna be an annoyance, and this really hurts me to say since he's in my top 3 favorite X-Men..

Well I agree with the annoyance part. But what if Magneto has Martian locked in his force field? Then Kurt could keep teleporting in and out of the field to get some hits... I do think Magneto doing the most will cause a worn down Martian and Kurt will be able to take advantage of that.

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#8  Edited By MC3PO

I'm going with J'onn on this one; he'll deal with Kurt fairly swiftly, and be able to take the long approach to dealing with Magneto.

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#9  Edited By Assman

Considering Magneto will have Kurt's back and will not be in his best interest to lose him quickly or otherwise to MM, he can keep Kurt safe with himself inside his ff while they work a strategy together to take Jon down, if the MM doesn't get to them first.

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#10  Edited By jeanroygrant

Martian Manhunter

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#11  Edited By CODYSF

MM will kick both there butt one hit by him there dead.

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#12  Edited By Fudgie29

I could definitely see Nightcrawler annoying MM but he would be taken out easily. Magneto wouldn't be able to hurt MM cause he could just phase through metal but could easily kill magneto. MM ftw.

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#13  Edited By ThatThorFan

Magneto and Kurt can make some sort of plan to destroy MM. Magneto is quite smart...

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#14  Edited By Jayfournines

so...Superman with intangibility, shape shifting and one of the most powerful telepathic minds in the DC Universe vs Mags and Nightcrawler

geee...I wonder who wins.

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#15  Edited By ThatThorFan

Should try to bring in someone who knows a good bit about Magneto. I think he could pull off a win and I love Martian Manhunter. I just feel like the team isnt getting credited as much as they should.

Care to add anything to this?

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Magneto solos.

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#17  Edited By IncludedPharoh

In the end, Magneto is the one that will provide the damage and what not. He will protect Nightcrawler and have him jab or create some sort of annoyance to Martian Manhunter. Martian Manhunter can take Kurt out easily though. I say we need more info

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@Jayfournines said:

so...Superman with intangibility, shape shifting and one of the most powerful telepathic minds in the DC Universe vs Mags and Nightcrawler

geee...I wonder who wins.

This.

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#19  Edited By Evil-Incarnate

@Jayfournines said:

so...Superman with intangibility, shape shifting and one of the most powerful telepathic minds in the DC Universe vs Mags and Nightcrawler

geee...I wonder who wins.

Nightcrawler?

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#20  Edited By YoggSaron

The Martian.

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#21  Edited By Evil-Incarnate

I also just noticed that morals are off. This is spite.

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#22  Edited By IncludedPharoh

@Evil Incarnate said:

I also just noticed that morals are off. This is spite.

Yeah, magneto stomps!

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#23  Edited By King_Saturn  Online
Martian Manhunter for the Win. 
Too Strong, Too Fast, Too Durable for Magneto and The Blue Mutant. 
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#24  Edited By flamingmuffin

@King Saturn said:

Martian Manhunter for the Win.
Too Strong, Too Fast, Too Durable for Magneto and The Blue Mutant.
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#25  Edited By Sufferthorn

Martian Manhunter is like a weird version of Vision.

He takes this.

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#26  Edited By Floopay

Nightcrawler isn't touching Martian Manhunter in my honest opinion. I don't see why he's even here.

Magneto stands a much better chance than people are giving him credit for. He was able to take on people on Northstar's level of speed, and take blows from Colossus with ease. I think he's being underestimated here. The guy literally moves mountains with his powers, and he can overpower Colossus and other 100+ Tonners in a physical confrontation using his powers.

Plus his force fields don't have any limitations that I'm aware of, can anyone provide a scan or a single moment where someone on Martian Manhunter's level has broken his force fields? I think Green Phoenix and the Avengers had a rough time with them at one point in time.

Thanks for reading,

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#27  Edited By nefarious

Magneto is the only real threat to the Martian, here. 
 
MM still wins, though.

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#28  Edited By IncludedPharoh

Nightcrawler would annoy him and could be useful. Magneto would command him and tell him what to do.

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#29  Edited By ximpossibrux

@venomoushatred1001 said:

Magneto solos.

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#30  Edited By ThatThorFan

See the op edited some stuff.

Round 2, not sure is Martian could win without his intangibility.....

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#31  Edited By xxironspiderxx

erik would win because he is resistent to telepathic attacks because of his special helmet. his force field can block MM from geting erik in MM's intangable form.so yeah kurt is out of the equation.

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#32  Edited By Sufferthorn

@xxironspiderxx:

What feats show Magnetos Force-field stopping intangible enemies?

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#33  Edited By xxironspiderxx

magneto could be a threat to the JLA.

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#34  Edited By gunmetalgrey

@Sufferthorn said:

@xxironspiderxx:

What feats show Magnetos Force-field stopping intangible enemies?

We've addressed this in the first page, by the nature of MM's intangibility which is a form of density manipulation, whatever molecules MM has left, no matter how few, can still be repelled by any EM field, especially one as powerful as Magneto's.

I'm sure Magneto's field can tank some heavy hits.. occassionally.. but multiple Superman-level hits coming in succession at Superman-level speeds will probably be too much for it.

I don't think Magneto's "disintegrate him by tearing his molecules apart" move will work on MM. I think MM's the sort to actually work best against it, being a powerful shape-shifter and density manipulator, he'd be at full control of his own molecules.

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#35  Edited By crackerjack82

First off Mags( in the past) has taken two nukes to the face, and was fine, Has tapped into the magnetosphere for a power boost, and it took both jean grey and professor X, to mind link to just get past his outer defenses, while he was schooling the X men, he can also reflect psychic attacks right back o the user. He can use any metals in your blood to harm you. And since we use CURRENT version, MM has done very very little in stormwatch, his TP even seems weaker.

Oh and just so you all every living thing, gives off some amount of electromagnetic field, this would also mean MM

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#36  Edited By Shinkii

Nightcrawler gives Magneto a piggyback ride. Now, MM has to deal with a constant teleporting Magneto with shields on.

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#37  Edited By inchiso

i remember one of the episodes in batman brave and the bold where the Martian (MM) backed off cuz batman was holding anesthetic gas(bats knew MM could read this mind).

Another time justice league superman talking about MM family destroyed and when superman punched, MM turned into steel and didnt move like no effect.

When aroused to impatience MM will use all his skills, u decide.

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#38  Edited By Dextersinister

The Martian is just way to strong and fast for Magneto. Mags does not have a chance in hell against possibly the strongest member of the Justice League.

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#39  Edited By Shinkii

@Dextersinister said:

possibly the strongest member of the Justice League.

Flash would like a word with you..

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#40  Edited By kcaz

how can they hurt MM? MM can kill them with 1 punch, since he is a 100 tonner like superman, or can use TP attacks on them 

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#41  Edited By IncludedPharoh

I dont see Martian Manhunter hitting Nightcrawler since he will be teleporting all over the place. With Nightcrawler as a distraction and Magneto doing the damage, Round 2: Team wins!

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#42  Edited By ripcurl

Current Martian Manhunter? The Marvel team wins.

Silly Silver Age Manhunter, with silly feats, from silly DC? He wins.

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#43  Edited By TheMinister

Bump.

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#44  Edited By ThatThorFan

Magneto could solo Round 2.