one Green lantern might be able to take Magneto down with a lot of effort, but could one take down these two power manipulators of both metal and gravity? Battle takes place on the Death star.
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one Green lantern might be able to take Magneto down with a lot of effort, but could one take down these two power manipulators of both metal and gravity? Battle takes place on the Death star.
@Magethor said:
Metal?
Er.... Magneto controls the entire electromagnetic spectrum. His powers have far more versatility than any Green Lantern who only uses just the power of a Power Ring.
GL rings have so much versatility it's unreal, they even used it to read a dead man's mind once but the fight takes place in a giant metal sphere giving the team a MASSIVE advantage.
@_Philosoraptor_ said:
@Magethor: Every thread with A green Lantern vs Magneto has GL winning out about 7/10 times.
That's because they are winning off votes. Not facts.
Let's see what Magneto can do with his power.
@Magethor said:
@_Philosoraptor_ said:
@Magethor: Every thread with A green Lantern vs Magneto has GL winning out about 7/10 times.That's because they are winning off votes. Not facts.
Let's see what Magneto can do with his power.
- Control metals are his most basic thing
- Able to manipulate plastics
- Able to manipulate ceramics
- Able to manipulate air
- Can recycle oxygen (via manipulation of electrons)
- Can turn oxygen into carbon dioxide (via manipulating electrons of a molecule)
- Can manipulate blood
- Can manipulate brain waves and thoughts
- Can manipulate gamma rays
- Can manipulate x-rays
- Can manipulate visible light
- Can manipulate infrared
- Can manipulate micro waves
- Can manipulate any kind of wave/particle frequency
- Can create a electromagnetic astral form
- Can turn invisible
- Can turn other objects invisible
- Can create wormholes
- Can magnetically amp his physical strength to over 100 tons (up to 100,000 tons or more)
- Can heal fast as long as he is within any type of magnetosphere including the sun
- Can an instant range of global proportions (can affect something physical from half a world away)
- Can have a lightyear range with deep concentration (can affect physical objects/energy some light years away before they can reach his position)
- Can read minds (by sensing the 0's and 1's of the electric pulses of the brain)
- Can sense any kind of energy and it's frequency as fast as a thought and can counter that energy if not distracted from some 3rd party
- Can preform TK of any object metal or non-metal
- Can create a forcefield that can automatically match frequency with anything that it considers hostile
- Can manipulate gravity by using the EM field to affect gravitons
- Can generate heat, electricity, or radiation
- Can indirectly affect atoms
- And so much more.
Props for listing down all of this. Also, team takes it.
@_Philosoraptor_ said:
@Magethor: But how will Magneto get past GL'S shield?
Just like anyone else can. Another way is by just waiting it out. Magneto can keep his forcefield on as long as he is conscious. A Green Lantern's shield is only as strong as its battery life. A Green Lantern can't will a shield on if there is no more battery life of the ring.
This will be a good fight, I think that Stewart could take Magneto by himself but since Gravitons raw power is probably even more powerful than Magneto, I'd say that the team will be able to take him down, not to mention with all that metal on the death star and Stewart won't get much room to even go on the offensive. But if he can handle all they throw at him, I'm sure Stewart might be able to hit back and win, but that wouldn't happen often.
Team 7/10 times.
@Dailyukulele said:
This will be a good fight, I think that Stewart could take Magneto by himself but since Gravitons raw power is probably even more powerful than Magneto, I'd say that the team will be able to take him down, not to mention with all that metal on the death star and Stewart won't get much room to even go on the offensive. But if he can handle all they throw at him, I'm sure Stewart might be able to hit back and win, but that wouldn't happen often. Team 7/10 times.
Magneto has more raw power than Graviton.
Magneto < Graviton acctually. Graviton will crush John instantly.A tough fight but the Team wins only because of Magneto.
@Magethor said:
@_Philosoraptor_ said:
@Magethor: Every thread with A green Lantern vs Magneto has GL winning out about 7/10 times.That's because they are winning off votes. Not facts.
Let's see what Magneto can do with his power.
- Control metals are his most basic thing
- Able to manipulate plastics
- Able to manipulate ceramics
- Able to manipulate air
- Can recycle oxygen (via manipulation of electrons)
- Can turn oxygen into carbon dioxide (via manipulating electrons of a molecule)
- Can manipulate blood
- Can manipulate brain waves and thoughts
- Can manipulate gamma rays
- Can manipulate x-rays
- Can manipulate visible light
- Can manipulate infrared
- Can manipulate micro waves
- Can manipulate any kind of wave/particle frequency
- Can create a electromagnetic astral form
- Can turn invisible
- Can turn other objects invisible
- Can create wormholes
- Can magnetically amp his physical strength to over 100 tons (up to 100,000 tons or more)
- Can heal fast as long as he is within any type of magnetosphere including the sun
- Can an instant range of global proportions (can affect something physical from half a world away)
- Can have a lightyear range with deep concentration (can affect physical objects/energy some light years away before they can reach his position)
- Can read minds (by sensing the 0's and 1's of the electric pulses of the brain)
- Can sense any kind of energy and it's frequency as fast as a thought and can counter that energy if not distracted from some 3rd party
- Can preform TK of any object metal or non-metal
- Can create a forcefield that can automatically match frequency with anything that it considers hostile
- Can manipulate gravity by using the EM field to affect gravitons
- Can generate heat, electricity, or radiation
- Can indirectly affect atoms
- And so much more.
If we are going by high end feats then GL stomp's.
Creating very small black holes, summoning solar flare from sun to Attilan (he was in NY in the same time), lifting whole island while fighting Thor and holding West Coast Avengers (including Wonder Man and Iron Man) in the same time. His shields can take shot from Mjolnir without being scratched, he can even just stop Mjolnir in the air.@czarny_samael666 said:
@TDK_1997 said:Magneto < Graviton acctually. Graviton will crush John instantly.A tough fight but the Team wins only because of Magneto.
What are Graviton's feats in comic books?
@czarny_samael666 said:
@TDK_1997 said:Creating very small black holes, summoning solar flare from sun to Attilan (he was in NY in the same time), lifting whole island while fighting Thor and holding West Coast Avengers (including Wonder Man and Iron Man) in the same time. His shields can take shot from Mjolnir without being scratched, he can even just stop Mjolnir in the air. To this moment, I don't recall a situation in which Graviton would be defeated in "normal" way. He was once BFR'd, once he was so angry that his powers changed him into low level black hole, so this island on which he was flying covered his whole body. Avengers thought it killed him, but later he fully abosrbed it into his own body (since this moment he was able to create small black holes, but remember, that BH weren't as powerfull as normal once, since Black Bolt turned off them). My point is simple - if he can put down Iron Man, Wonder Man and hold Thor with just part of his power, what chance of surviving it has Green Lantern?@czarny_samael666 said:
@TDK_1997 said:Magneto < Graviton acctually. Graviton will crush John instantly.A tough fight but the Team wins only because of Magneto.
What are Graviton's feats in comic books?
Point taken.I didn't know anything about Graviton.I have only seen him in Avengers EMH.
And I've didn't see it :lol: :-P@czarny_samael666 said:
@TDK_1997 said:Creating very small black holes, summoning solar flare from sun to Attilan (he was in NY in the same time), lifting whole island while fighting Thor and holding West Coast Avengers (including Wonder Man and Iron Man) in the same time. His shields can take shot from Mjolnir without being scratched, he can even just stop Mjolnir in the air. To this moment, I don't recall a situation in which Graviton would be defeated in "normal" way. He was once BFR'd, once he was so angry that his powers changed him into low level black hole, so this island on which he was flying covered his whole body. Avengers thought it killed him, but later he fully abosrbed it into his own body (since this moment he was able to create small black holes, but remember, that BH weren't as powerfull as normal once, since Black Bolt turned off them). My point is simple - if he can put down Iron Man, Wonder Man and hold Thor with just part of his power, what chance of surviving it has Green Lantern?@czarny_samael666 said:
@TDK_1997 said:Magneto < Graviton acctually. Graviton will crush John instantly.A tough fight but the Team wins only because of Magneto.
What are Graviton's feats in comic books?
Point taken.I didn't know anything about Graviton.I have only seen him in Avengers EMH.
@czarny_samael666 said:
@TDK_1997 said:And I've didn't see it :lol: :-P P.S. Try to google Graviton vs. Avenger or Black Bolt. You should see most of things that I've mentioned here.@czarny_samael666 said:
@TDK_1997 said:Creating very small black holes, summoning solar flare from sun to Attilan (he was in NY in the same time), lifting whole island while fighting Thor and holding West Coast Avengers (including Wonder Man and Iron Man) in the same time. His shields can take shot from Mjolnir without being scratched, he can even just stop Mjolnir in the air. To this moment, I don't recall a situation in which Graviton would be defeated in "normal" way. He was once BFR'd, once he was so angry that his powers changed him into low level black hole, so this island on which he was flying covered his whole body. Avengers thought it killed him, but later he fully abosrbed it into his own body (since this moment he was able to create small black holes, but remember, that BH weren't as powerfull as normal once, since Black Bolt turned off them). My point is simple - if he can put down Iron Man, Wonder Man and hold Thor with just part of his power, what chance of surviving it has Green Lantern?@czarny_samael666 said:
@TDK_1997 said:Magneto < Graviton acctually. Graviton will crush John instantly.A tough fight but the Team wins only because of Magneto.
What are Graviton's feats in comic books?
Point taken.I didn't know anything about Graviton.I have only seen him in Avengers EMH.
Graviton was in the 1st or 2nd episode of the show.
@TDK_1997: Although all the showing listed by Samule's are genuine, he also has a lot in terms of horrible showings. Its not good showing all the time. Even worst is that his showing past 2000 are not very impressive, but we take most of then best showing which makes Graviton rather powerful. Also in terms of him being knocked out rather easily, Spiderman managed to knock him out in Amazing Spiderman 329 but he had cosmic powers at that time (although Graviton almost killed Spiderman without the cosmic upgrade few issues earlier and left thinking spiderman crushed and killed by a building). He was later defeated by Machine Man who thanks to PIS stated that he could fly overcoming his gravitational powers something avengers failed to do in their earlier encounter in Thunderbolt 29. Vison was able to overload his powers on Avengers Unplugged Vol 2, something i believe Hal might be able to do.
Those where is defeat in his glorious days. After that he has been kind of shaky. He has appeared after 2005 on 6/7 occasions and hasnt managed to defeat anyone significant after that. He was somehow captured and imprisioned in the Raft just before the sentry story arc although how he was captured was not really shown (or if it was i havent read it), he was almost killed by Iron Man himself with 1 uni beam in Iron Man Vol4 Issue 8, it was stated that had it not been for Captain America's interference the graviton would have died. Although the word knocked out wasnt specifically used he was lying on the ground and wasnt shown again (so i assume he was at the very least KOed).
Note that i am not trying to lowball Graviton or anything, seeing how you said you havent read about Graviton i though you should be aware of his low ends feats along with high end ones which would help you debate on the characters in the future. Hope it helps =)
Graviton could solo. Wish they would give Graviton more credit and put him in some more comics. He is a great villain.
Team.
@TDK_1997 said:
@czarny_samael666 said:
@TDK_1997 said:Magneto < Graviton acctually. Graviton will crush John instantly.A tough fight but the Team wins only because of Magneto.
What are Graviton's feats in comic books?
@Dextersinister said:
@Magethor said:
@_Philosoraptor_ said:
@Magethor: Every thread with A green Lantern vs Magneto has GL winning out about 7/10 times.That's because they are winning off votes. Not facts.
Let's see what Magneto can do with his power.
- Control metals are his most basic thing
- Able to manipulate plastics
- Able to manipulate ceramics
- Able to manipulate air
- Can recycle oxygen (via manipulation of electrons)
- Can turn oxygen into carbon dioxide (via manipulating electrons of a molecule)
- Can manipulate blood
- Can manipulate brain waves and thoughts
- Can manipulate gamma rays
- Can manipulate x-rays
- Can manipulate visible light
- Can manipulate infrared
- Can manipulate micro waves
- Can manipulate any kind of wave/particle frequency
- Can create a electromagnetic astral form
- Can turn invisible
- Can turn other objects invisible
- Can create wormholes
- Can magnetically amp his physical strength to over 100 tons (up to 100,000 tons or more)
- Can heal fast as long as he is within any type of magnetosphere including the sun
- Can an instant range of global proportions (can affect something physical from half a world away)
- Can have a lightyear range with deep concentration (can affect physical objects/energy some light years away before they can reach his position)
- Can read minds (by sensing the 0's and 1's of the electric pulses of the brain)
- Can sense any kind of energy and it's frequency as fast as a thought and can counter that energy if not distracted from some 3rd party
- Can preform TK of any object metal or non-metal
- Can create a forcefield that can automatically match frequency with anything that it considers hostile
- Can manipulate gravity by using the EM field to affect gravitons
- Can generate heat, electricity, or radiation
- Can indirectly affect atoms
- And so much more.
If we are going by high end feats then GL stomp's.
We're not using Parallax or Ion.
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