Random encounter no prep
morals off
no gear, no weapons
location: abandoned football staduim
bfr is allowed
starting distance is 10 feet apart
which hulk smashes the other?
@PowerHerc said:
Maestro destroys Rulk.
He remembers Rulk and his abilities, habits and flaws.
Maestro also remembers all the years Ross made his life miserable.
The Maestro shows no mercy. Rulk goes down hard!
Spoken like a true champ. Or should I say ..... a true Maestro? :P
Any reasons why Maestro should win it?
Rulk already won with Hulk and gived a fight to Hulk who was in WWHulk level ATM. Did Maestro ever fought with so powerfull Hulk?
But You don't know his power level. Hulk's strength level changes, so it doesn't mean that if he is experienced Hulk he have to be WB one.@czarny_samael666:
Maestro is basicly any Hulk that ever existed on steroids and with eons of years in experience. Hence the name Maestro
@czarny_samael666 said:
@Jorgevy said:But You don't know his power level. Hulk's strength level changes, so it doesn't mean that if he is experienced Hulk he have to be WB one.@czarny_samael666:
Maestro is basicly any Hulk that ever existed on steroids and with eons of years in experience. Hence the name Maestro
I dont know his power level objectively, no. But he is the strongest hulk EVER. he is basicly a hulk who lived for years and after nuclears war happened on earth (or something like that) his gamma powers got even stronger. He also has a genius intellect. He is basicly stronger, smarter, and more experienced than any other Hulk. But you can just wait for someone more into the subject to get here and show scans/feats/more info. Im not an expert when it comes to Maestro
I've just have seen his battles with Hulk in YT.@czarny_samael666 said:
@Jorgevy said:But You don't know his power level. Hulk's strength level changes, so it doesn't mean that if he is experienced Hulk he have to be WB one.@czarny_samael666:
Maestro is basicly any Hulk that ever existed on steroids and with eons of years in experience. Hence the name Maestro
I dont know his power level objectively, no. But he is the strongest hulk EVER. he is basicly a hulk who lived for years and after nuclears war happened on earth (or something like that) his gamma powers got even stronger. He also has a genius intellect. He is basicly stronger, smarter, and more experienced than any other Hulk. But you can just wait for someone more into the subject to get here and show scans/feats/more info. Im not an expert when it comes to Maestro
No, but it wouldn't mean too much IMO.@czarny_samael666:
does Abomination have the same intellect and experience as Maestro??
You are confused, Lyra was losing strength, not Rulk. Rulk is getting hotter. So his knowledge about Rulk would only tell him, that he won't win against Red Hulk.@czarny_samael666:
it matters in battle, tactics wise. And Maestro knows the Rulk. He has info on him and remembers him. So he knows Rulk has a limit to his strength and that if he gets mad, he loses power.
@Jorgevy said:
it matters in battle, tactics wise.
In all fairness, Rulk is a master strategist. I doubt there is much that Maestro can do to "out strategize" him, so to speak.
@czarny_samael666: @CrazyBuffalo:
Czarny - Red hulk gets weaker if he gets too hot. So if he gets too mad, he overheats, and loses energy, therefore strenght
CrazyBuff - This isnt regular hulk, I know Ross is a master tactician, but what Im trying to say is that Maestro is also really good. When you put his experience and power together with that, I put my bet on Maestro
Hmm...I have to say Maestro because no matter how you put it Maestro been a Hulk longer then Rulk. Meaning experience top skill. Also after Rulk first win against the Hulk he los 3 times to him. 1 when Savage Hulk made Rulk overheat. 2 as banner when he made him absorb the negative. 3 and finally as Hulk again in WWH aftermath. Also Maestro is merciless.
@SlimJ87D said:
@Army2442 said:
@Jorgevy: Rulk arguably has the initial strength advantage which he demonstrated against abomination who has similar strength to maestro.
No...
THIS. Also, even if Rulk had initial advantage, Maestro can still get stronger, by getting angrier, Rulk cant and if he gets angry he might actually lose strenght.
And I think Maestro has higher durability than the other hulks and (Im not sure, this maybe be wrong but) he is trained in a few if not a lot of alien martial arts/combat.
Maestro easily outmatches Rulk in strength, durability, intellect and experience. Rulk was already handled by the current Banner.
Can You give me an example of Rulk getting weak because of his "fire"-power?@czarny_samael666: @CrazyBuffalo:
Czarny - Red hulk gets weaker if he gets too hot. So if he gets too mad, he overheats, and loses energy, therefore strenght
Maestro easily outmatches Rulk in strength, durability, intellect and experience. Rulk was already handled by the current Banner.
@czarny_samael666 said:
@Jorgevy said:Can You give me an example of Rulk getting weak because of his "fire"-power?@czarny_samael666: @CrazyBuffalo:
Czarny - Red hulk gets weaker if he gets too hot. So if he gets too mad, he overheats, and loses energy, therefore strenght
@Deranged Midget said:What proves that he outmaches Rulk in anything? Rulk defeated stronger version of Hulk than Maestro did. He also defeated other heroes and villains in opposite to Maestro.Maestro easily outmatches Rulk in strength, durability, intellect and experience. Rulk was already handled by the current Banner.
The Hulk that Rulk fought was simply a Savage Hulk. Maestro fought a Hulk on the same level and overpowered him with overwhelming ease and proceeded to snap his neck.
You talk as if Rulk rumbled with WWH.
Rulk only loss to ww incarnation at the end of fall of the hulks. He beat the savage one in quite a few encounters. Mastro has only beaten professor hulk which doesn't say much. Rulk absorbs his radiation like he did to savage hulk.@czarny_samael666 said:
@Jorgevy said:Can You give me an example of Rulk getting weak because of his "fire"-power?@czarny_samael666: @CrazyBuffalo:
Czarny - Red hulk gets weaker if he gets too hot. So if he gets too mad, he overheats, and loses energy, therefore strenght
@Deranged Midget said:What proves that he outmaches Rulk in anything? Rulk defeated stronger version of Hulk than Maestro did. He also defeated other heroes and villains in opposite to Maestro.Maestro easily outmatches Rulk in strength, durability, intellect and experience. Rulk was already handled by the current Banner.
The Hulk that Rulk fought was simply a Savage Hulk. Maestro fought a Hulk on the same level and overpowered him with overwhelming ease and proceeded to snap his neck.
You talk as if Rulk rumbled with WWH.
1.He didn't lose them. Banner lied to him, because if Ross would use it more times there will be a chance that he won't be able to change into human again.@jashro44:
Im not sure but I think it was the Scorched Earth arc. I'll look for them
@czarny_samael666:
You are probably right, I must have misread that.
Still, Rulk has a limit to his powers, and if he overheats, kaput.
And Maestro absorbs radiation - Rulk releases radiation as he fights due to his temperature. Also, I know there's few feats to go along with, but Maestro IS Hulk from many years into the future, who absorbed imense amount of radiation and even turned evil (Banner states that because he is evil, he might even be stronger than if he was good)
Sorry, if I dont have many feats to go along but hey........
@czarny_samael666: So ross still has the ability but he thinks he doesn't? Can rulk absorb the radiation? I agree with the rest of what you said though.Now he again know about it.
@czarny_samael666:
You are probably right, I must have misread that.
Still, Rulk has a limit to his powers, and if he overheats, kaput.
And Maestro absorbs radiation - Rulk releases radiation as he fights due to his temperature. Also, I know there's few feats to go along with, but Maestro IS Hulk from many years into the future, who absorbed imense amount of radiation and even turned evil (Banner states that because he is evil, he might even be stronger than if he was good)
Sorry, if I dont have many feats to go along but hey........
@czarny_samael666:
I agree with the Rulk being stronger than Abom, but Maestro's psychological status is much different than Hulk's. Banner said he could become stronger (angrier) easily, because he was evil and had psychological problems or whatever. So I think he could much more easily achieve WW Hulk's strenght than any other Hulk counterpart.
Also, Rulk can drain, but as he drains, as he does anything at ALL, he emits gamma radiation (among other) which makes Maestro stronger too. And since Maestro knows Rulk, because of his memories, he would know to make him enrage quick enough to overheat. Maestro has previous knowledge on Rulk but Rulk doesnt have on Maestro.
2 times, like Abomination.I always thought Maestro was far stronger than Hulk...
@czarny_samael666:
I agree with the Rulk being stronger than Abom, but Maestro's psychological status is much different than Hulk's. Banner said he could become stronger (angrier) easily, because he was evil and had psychological problems or whatever. So I think he could much more easily achieve WW Hulk's strenght than any other Hulk counterpart.
Also, Rulk can drain, but as he drains, as he does anything at ALL, he emits gamma radiation (among other) which makes Maestro stronger too. And since Maestro knows Rulk, because of his memories, he would know to make him enrage quick enough to overheat. Maestro has previous knowledge on Rulk but Rulk doesnt have on Maestro.
@czarny_samael666:
it could be PIS but Hulk defeat Rulk in the scans I showed using the overheating strategy. But since its hard to tell because of the lack of feats, I propose we call it a draw. I cant really be convinced that Rulk would win, but Im not that entirely sure that Maestro would. We just dont have that many Maestro feats and Rulk is also relatively new to Marvel so..... I think we should call this off :D
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