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#1 Posted by death monger (992 posts) - - Show Bio

i say thanos

#2 Posted by SilverSentry (2481 posts) - - Show Bio

I say this WRATH ENTITY

Seeing as he is basically God I think Same could be said about IG though. so it's a close one
#3 Posted by Sexy Merc (42076 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know what you mean by Full-power Spectre? The highest level Spectre we were shown however, I do know. In that case:
 
1) Thanos with IG
2) Spectre
3) MJJ

#4 Posted by death monger (992 posts) - - Show Bio

unbound
#5 Posted by SilverSentry (2481 posts) - - Show Bio

I think GOD'S right hand has it then my opinion though.

#6 Posted by death monger (992 posts) - - Show Bio

boom
#7 Posted by Tevnoba (3494 posts) - - Show Bio

The Spectre even unbound, IMO has never shown the power anywhere near even the IG.  And until the Spectre stops jobbing at every turn, I can not give him that much credit.
 
#1: Thanos w/IG
#2: MJJ
#3: Unbound Spectre

#8 Edited by lagoon_boy (10962 posts) - - Show Bio
The Living Tribunal and TOAA were the only few beings that were superior to Thanos with the IG Gauntlet...and the Spectre has not shown any power (That i have  seen) to Put him in the same level of either beings, so he goes last.
 
MJJ is a Fifth Dimensional imp his going First In My Opinion.
 
Thanos With the IG gauntlet goes last. IMO
#9 Posted by JediXMan (31230 posts) - - Show Bio

Spectre should win this.

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#10 Posted by lord_oraculous016 (9282 posts) - - Show Bio
@lagoon_boy:  dude, MJJ is not a 5th dimension Imp.. you're probably referring to Mr. Mxy.. ^__^
#11 Posted by lagoon_boy (10962 posts) - - Show Bio
@lord_oraculous016:  0_o Damm! i always get Confused for some reason Between them, Good thing i did not post (Thanos might say his name backwards and beat him) Thanks dude for the correction.
#12 Posted by rbysjti (10690 posts) - - Show Bio

I would go for Mad Jim Jaspers cos he can do anything. Before everybody could make a move, MJJ is already playing playstation controlling Thanos in versus mode against Spectre.
 
Or he can create 3 Thanoses and 3 Spectres to fight the real Thanos and the Real Spectre.
 
If Proteus can do this, so can MJJ.
 

#13 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio

The full power of God vs. two others? Even with the Infinity Gauntlet, Thanos can't stand to that. Mad Jim Jaspers comes dead last. He'll go first. Thanos can't defeat Spectre unbound (essentially infinite power), with or without IG. 

#14 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@rbysjti: The Infinity Gauntlet can manipulate reality far better than Mad Jim Jaspers. Plus, Spectre is a reality manipulator also.
#15 Posted by lord_oraculous016 (9282 posts) - - Show Bio
@lagoon_boy:  welcome..
#16 Posted by bumnut (1789 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tevnoba said:
"The Spectre even unbound, IMO has never shown the power anywhere near even the IG.  And until the Spectre stops jobbing at every turn, I can not give him that much credit.  #1: Thanos w/IG #2: MJJ #3: Unbound Spectre "

co-signed. Though #2 & 3 can be interchanchable depending on Spectre mainly. they (DC) have jobbed him too much for MJJ to not get the upper hand.
#17 Posted by bumnut (1789 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @rbysjti: The Infinity Gauntlet can manipulate reality far better than Mad Jim Jaspers. Plus, Spectre is a reality manipulator also. "


Unfortuanly got jobbed to Spectre with most of Mxy's powers, so what does that say?? WIS??
#18 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@bumnut: Pretty much, yeah. Not to mention I don't think Spectre was at full power at that time as he is here.
#19 Posted by bumnut (1789 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @bumnut: Pretty much, yeah. Not to mention I don't think Spectre was at full power at that time as he is here. "

What does that mean, anyway, at full power? Backing by the Presence? Cause that's not full power, that's with aid or power ups.  Spectre has his own defined powerset.  Spectre unbound is Spectre in Day of Vengeance, and he was not, for the record, backed by the Presence. The Presence only reeled him end at the end of the series.
#20 Posted by rbysjti (10690 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @rbysjti: The Infinity Gauntlet can manipulate reality far better than Mad Jim Jaspers. Plus, Spectre is a reality manipulator also. "
If that is the case, then I'll go for Spectre.
#21 Posted by bumnut (1789 posts) - - Show Bio
@rbysjti said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @rbysjti: The Infinity Gauntlet can manipulate reality far better than Mad Jim Jaspers. Plus, Spectre is a reality manipulator also. "
If that is the case, then I'll go for Spectre. "

You are a strange one :-)
#22 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@bumnut: The source of Spectre's power is the Presence. Spectre may retain his own power, but that doesn't mean he's the source of it. The Presence changes his power levels all the time to fit different situations. 
#23 Edited by bumnut (1789 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:

" @bumnut: The source of Spectre's power is the Presence. Spectre may retain his own power, but that doesn't mean he's the source of it. The Presence changes his power levels all the time to fit different situations.  "


Not really.  That's like saying the source is behind every being's power in the universe.  As stated, Spectre is an Angel of Vengeance, and has his own defined powers and parameters, but the Presence can back him and give him the confidence in utilizing said powers more effeciently. That, I would label as a power up!
#24 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@bumnut said: 
That's like saying the source is behind every being's power in the universe. 
How? The Spectre is an agent of the Presence. SuperMan won't get backed by the Presence because he doesn't really work for him. I mean, I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you said. I just don't follow.
#25 Posted by bumnut (1789 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @bumnut said: 
That's like saying the source is behind every being's power in the universe. 
How? The Spectre is an agent of the Presence. SuperMan won't get backed by the Presence because he doesn't really work for him. I mean, I'm sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you said. I just don't follow. "

What i'm saying is, that Spectre, even when people say unbound, has and is going by his own powers.  Spectre being backed by the Presence has only hapend once, that I know of, and that's when he took on the AM in COIE. If it's hapened again, before or after, please feel free to give scans or references.  That is why Spectre will never be on the same powerlevel as a being like the LT.  Spectre being backed by the Presence is like saying Thanos being backed by the IG.
#26 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@bumnut: OK. I mean, I don't completely agree, but I can see what you're saying. Although, the debate about him and LT has been going on for a while and probably always will. It's like the debate with Darkseid and Thanos. I generally prefer just to keep out of it; I don't know who to pick. 
#27 Posted by bumnut (1789 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @bumnut: OK. I mean, I don't completely agree, but I can see what you're saying. Although, the debate about him and LT has been going on for a while and probably always will. It's like the debate with Darkseid and Thanos. I generally prefer just to keep out of it; I don't know who to pick.  "

That is fair enough and understandable.  Feats alone, Spectre has never been on LT's level, they have completelty different roles, and LT does not require backing by TOAA/Presence.  Darkseid is/was a beast, but alot of people have problems with the way DC have treated him and let him slide, where as Thanos has always been consistant, for me, is where the difference lies.  Thanos was actually modelled on Darkseid, as Starlin has stated himself, who is Thanos's creater.  Kirby actually modelled Darkseid after actor Jack Palance. 
 

 
#28 Posted by lagoon_boy (10962 posts) - - Show Bio
@bumnut:  Wow, I am very surprised!
#29 Posted by bumnut (1789 posts) - - Show Bio
@lagoon_boy said:
" @bumnut:  Wow, I am very surprised! "

@
#30 Posted by lagoon_boy (10962 posts) - - Show Bio
@bumnut: The modeling of Darksied is based entirely on Jack Palace.
#31 Posted by bumnut (1789 posts) - - Show Bio
@lagoon_boy said:
" @bumnut: The modeling of Darksied is based entirely on Jack Palace."

Yeah, fealt the same way when it was first brought to my attention. Amazing when you look at it.
#32 Posted by lagoon_boy (10962 posts) - - Show Bio
@bumnut:  Indeed it is.
#33 Posted by RiseofApocalypse (3991 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos wins by sending Jaspers into un-space AFTER Jaspers turns Spectre into salt.

#34 Posted by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio

unbound spectre should win here

#35 Posted by FLCL1 (9580 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tevnoba said:
"The Spectre even unbound, IMO has never shown the power anywhere near even the IG.  And until the Spectre stops jobbing at every turn, I can not give him that much credit.  #1: Thanos w/IG #2: MJJ #3: Unbound Spectre "

pretty much this
#36 Posted by A Touch of Class (ATC) (572 posts) - - Show Bio

The Infinity Gauntlet should be the winner since it makes once supreme only beneath the Living Tribunal and TOAA.

#37 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6133 posts) - - Show Bio

Jaspers .

#38 Posted by A Touch of Class (ATC) (572 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch said:
" Jaspers . "
why? At best it could be a stalemate between Jaspers and the gauntlet. But, based on the definition of the IG I would have to say the IG would overcome Jaspers even at the height of his powers.
#39 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6133 posts) - - Show Bio
@A Touch of Class (ATC): Too bad , IG is universal , Jaspers is Multiversal .
#40 Posted by A Touch of Class (ATC) (572 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @A Touch of Class (ATC): Too bad , IG is universal , Jaspers is Multiversal . "
That's a funny claim. Where would you get the idea that the Infinity Gauntlet is only Universal?
#41 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23244 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @A Touch of Class (ATC): Too bad , IG is universal , Jaspers is Multiversal . "
Too bad Jaspers is way beyond Multiversal. 
#42 Posted by A Touch of Class (ATC) (572 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Uppercut said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @A Touch of Class (ATC): Too bad , IG is universal , Jaspers is Multiversal . "
Too bad Jaspers is way beyond Multiversal.  "
Lance has it right. MJJ was a threat to the omniverse.
#43 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23244 posts) - - Show Bio
@A Touch of Class (ATC) said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @A Touch of Class (ATC): Too bad , IG is universal , Jaspers is Multiversal . "
Too bad Jaspers is way beyond Multiversal.  "
Lance has it right. MJJ was a threat to the omniverse. "
 
 The IG certainly wasn't. I can't imagine why you'd consider it a stalemate. 
#44 Posted by A Touch of Class (ATC) (572 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Uppercut said:

" @A Touch of Class (ATC) said:

" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @A Touch of Class (ATC): Too bad , IG is universal , Jaspers is Multiversal . "
Too bad Jaspers is way beyond Multiversal.  "
Lance has it right. MJJ was a threat to the omniverse. "
  The IG certainly wasn't. I can't imagine why you'd consider it a stalemate.  "
Because the Infinity Gauntlet it beyond universal and made one supreme only beneath LT. 
#45 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23244 posts) - - Show Bio
@A Touch of Class (ATC) said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:

" @A Touch of Class (ATC) said:

" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @A Touch of Class (ATC): Too bad , IG is universal , Jaspers is Multiversal . "
Too bad Jaspers is way beyond Multiversal.  "
Lance has it right. MJJ was a threat to the omniverse. "
  The IG certainly wasn't. I can't imagine why you'd consider it a stalemate.  "
Because the Infinity Gauntlet it beyond universal and made one supreme only beneath LT.  "
It's a multiversal threat at best. Saying it made one supreme only beneath the LT isn't a fair assumption either. He never fought MJJ. In fact, no one used it to really influence the multiverse. IT was hinted at that it could, but no one really acted on it. All he fought and influenced were a bunch of universal entities. He never battled someone whose abilities extend beyond the multiverse. 
#46 Posted by Tevnoba (3494 posts) - - Show Bio
@A Touch of Class (ATC) said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @A Touch of Class (ATC): Too bad , IG is universal , Jaspers is Multiversal . "
Too bad Jaspers is way beyond Multiversal.  "
Lance has it right. MJJ was a threat to the omniverse. "
That was a bad choice of words by the authors of those issues because the Omniverse includes our own universe and DC/Vertigo, and the Preacher Universe, etc (per Marvel's Definition).  At best MJJ (and HOM Wanda for that matter) are only Mutiversal threats.
#47 Posted by A Touch of Class (ATC) (572 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Uppercut said:

" @A Touch of Class (ATC) said:

" @Lance Uppercut said:

" @A Touch of Class (ATC) said:

" @Lance Uppercut said:

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @A Touch of Class (ATC): Too bad , IG is universal , Jaspers is Multiversal . "
Too bad Jaspers is way beyond Multiversal.  "
Lance has it right. MJJ was a threat to the omniverse. "
  The IG certainly wasn't. I can't imagine why you'd consider it a stalemate.  "
Because the Infinity Gauntlet it beyond universal and made one supreme only beneath LT.  "
It's a multiversal threat at best. Saying it made one supreme only beneath the LT isn't a fair assumption either. He never fought MJJ. In fact, no one used it to really influence the multiverse. IT was hinted at that it could, but no one really acted on it. All he fought and influenced were a bunch of universal entities. He never battled someone whose abilities extend beyond the multiverse.  "
 It couldn't be omniversal? I mean,  a single Gem (Time) has performed Universal feats, and even nullified from existence an entire Universe: (Soul) 
Rune, with the Time Gem only completely freezes the entire Time-stream. The Soul Gem alone erased the old Magus' Timeline (an entire Universe) from existence, while simultaneously altering the future of 616.
 
Why didn't the IG in the hands of Thanos/Nebula/Warlock affect the omniverse? Because Thanos only wanted 616. (although technially this is Multiverse-like), because Nebula was half-crazed (stipulation) and thus was "defeated" and because Warlock didn't want any Universe. Thanos curbstomped the power of the infinite prime Multiverse (616 Eternity) in one move.
 
Anyway, when the gems are all together the wearer is supposed to be granted absolute omnipotence. I don't see Jaspers above that.
#48 Posted by A Touch of Class (ATC) (572 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tevnoba said:
" @A Touch of Class (ATC) said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @A Touch of Class (ATC): Too bad , IG is universal , Jaspers is Multiversal . "
Too bad Jaspers is way beyond Multiversal.  "
Lance has it right. MJJ was a threat to the omniverse. "
That was a bad choice of words by the authors of those issues because the Omniverse includes our own universe and DC/Vertigo, and the Preacher Universe, etc (per Marvel's Definition).  At best MJJ (and HOM Wanda for that matter) are only Mutiversal threats. "
Oh, well I just went literally by what it said on-panel. I guess it could be wrong, though.
#49 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23244 posts) - - Show Bio
@A Touch of Class (ATC) said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:

" @A Touch of Class (ATC) said:

" @Lance Uppercut said:

" @A Touch of Class (ATC) said:

" @Lance Uppercut said:

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @A Touch of Class (ATC): Too bad , IG is universal , Jaspers is Multiversal . "
Too bad Jaspers is way beyond Multiversal.  "
Lance has it right. MJJ was a threat to the omniverse. "
  The IG certainly wasn't. I can't imagine why you'd consider it a stalemate.  "
Because the Infinity Gauntlet it beyond universal and made one supreme only beneath LT.  "
It's a multiversal threat at best. Saying it made one supreme only beneath the LT isn't a fair assumption either. He never fought MJJ. In fact, no one used it to really influence the multiverse. IT was hinted at that it could, but no one really acted on it. All he fought and influenced were a bunch of universal entities. He never battled someone whose abilities extend beyond the multiverse.  "
 It couldn't be omniversal? I mean,  a single Gem (Time) has performed Universal feats, and even nullified from existence an entire Universe: (Soul)  Rune, with the Time Gem only completely freezes the entire Time-stream. The Soul Gem alone erased the old Magus' Timeline (an entire Universe) from existence, while simultaneously altering the future of 616.  Why didn't the IG in the hands of Thanos/Nebula/Warlock affect the omniverse? Because Thanos only wanted 616. (although technially this is Multiverse-like), because Nebula was half-crazed (stipulation) and thus was "defeated" and because Warlock didn't want any Universe. Thanos curbstomped the power of the infinite prime Multiverse (616 Eternity) in one move.   Anyway, when the gems are all together the wearer is supposed to be granted absolute omnipotence. I don't see Jaspers above that. "
Once again, what omniversal feats did it perform? All we saw was that it could effect universes.  
 
And absolute omnipotence... except when it comes up against the LT? The LT isn't even omnipotent. The only omnipotent being is TOAA. Mephisto in his own realm is said to be omnipotent. 
#50 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23244 posts) - - Show Bio
@Tevnoba said:
" @A Touch of Class (ATC) said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @TheJuggernautpunch said:
" @A Touch of Class (ATC): Too bad , IG is universal , Jaspers is Multiversal . "
Too bad Jaspers is way beyond Multiversal.  "
Lance has it right. MJJ was a threat to the omniverse. "
That was a bad choice of words by the authors of those issues because the Omniverse includes our own universe and DC/Vertigo, and the Preacher Universe, etc (per Marvel's Definition).  At best MJJ (and HOM Wanda for that matter) are only Mutiversal threats. "
I'm not explaining this to you again.