Mace Windu vs Kyp Durron

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- Standard Morals

- Standard equipment

- Mace as of Revenge of the Sith

- Kyp as of Fate of the Jedi

- Takes place on the plains of Dantooine

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I'm willing to back either, honestly.

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I could see either winning. Mace has a saber advantage while Kyp could win if he abused the force

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Mace Windu wins.

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It could go either way. Mace has the saber advantage and Kyp might get the win if he abuses his Force Abilities but I might back Mace for a slight, slight majority.

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Even or Kyp.

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Mace stomps.

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I'm willing to back either, honestly.

This, but I lean Kyp. For no other reason than simple bias.

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@dccomicsrule2011: Meh, I can see Kyp taking it simply due to how substantially ahead he is in the Force.

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I'd give it to Mace on account of his swordsmanship and his own considerable telekinetic prowess.

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Feats for Kyp?

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#14  Edited By ZiggyStardust

@silverrings said:

Feats for Kyp?

His single best feat with telekinesis is manipulating a device that creates artificial black holes. In the Dark Tide duology, there's a segment that describes Luke doing the same thing. Only the difference being that Luke was left in a much worse state than Kyp, and ironically had manipulated a less powerful device, as it was only swallowing proton torpedoes and missiles. On the other hand, Durron's feat was against something that could consume entire ships.

Luke Skywalker had done this once, a couple of years ago. He'd mentioned it to the other Jedi. No one else had tried it because it had exhausted Luke to the point of collapse, and Jedi were seldom in a position to survive a technique that tired them so completely. They were past the second wave of coralskippers now and heading toward the cloud surrounding Jag. Beyond it, not far now, was the second interdictor. Kyp knew that other skips had to be converging on him and Jaina. He didn't bother to look at his sensor board. They weren't relevant now.

And he didn't think he'd be as terribly drained as Luke by the technique. He was stronger in the Force than Luke Skywalker.

----

He armed a proton torpedo and fired it. He felt its physical presence as, in a matter of seconds, it closed the distance between him and the interdictor... and was swallowed by another void. He felt it enter the void, felt which of the many singularities it was. And he seized upon that void, directing all his Force abilities and discipline against it. It was like using a thin metal rod to push a grounded landspeeder. Too much pressure and it would bend, becoming useless. Too little and nothing would happen. He had to find the right pressure to budge it, to set it into motion and keep it going that way...

For a moment, the only things in the universe were him, Jaina, and the void. He moved the void, turned it around, moved it back the other direction. Then he was himself again, in the cockpit, watching the flank of the interdictor distort. The void had moved back and touched the interdictor, and now the interdictor elongated into it, extending what looked like a pliant extrusion of what he knew to be hardened yorik coral into the singularity.

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Kyp felt obliterated, bone-tired, as though he'd run for days, drawing on the Force to sustain him, and had finally settled down for rest. His diagnostics board was beeping at him and he spared it a glance.

- Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream

It was Kyp's own power combined with the knowledge of Exar Kun's sorcery that brought Luke to his knees. And I don't believe Kyp's own power really was boosted by Exar Kun's in a significant manner. More that Kun had tapped Durron's own reserves of energy.

"Against the full might of Kyp Durron and the forbidden weapons of the long-dead spirit of Exar Kun, even a Jedi Master such as Luke Skywalker could not prevail."

- Jedi Acadmey Dark Apprentice

If anything, he's at second to Luke regarding raw potency in the New Jedi Order. And yes fanboys, he's more powerful than Caedus too, possibly by a significant degree :)

Other embellishments:

* Within a week of intensive training, Durron had surpassed all other trainees at the Jedi Praxeum.

* By 13 ABY, Skywalker perceived Durron to be "frighteningly powerful" and regarded him as his prize student.

* During the fall of Coruscant, Durron also made use of a "damed freighter" as a telekinetic weapon despite its large size.

* Testiment to his abilities, Kyp was the only Jedi outside of the Skywalker/Solo families to be considered by Vergere and Lumiya as a candidate for the next Sith Lord.

And there's this selection from Fate of the Jedi:

He was good; Luke gave him that. He might have been a match for an expert swordsmaster such as Kyp or Kyle Katarn. He would have been too much for a comparatively diffident duelist such as Cilghal, or even Luke as he had been back at Sinkhole Station, at low ebb in physical and mental strength.

But Luke, despite recent exertions, had had time to recover. He parried each of Gaalan's blows, and his ripostes-his blade skittering off Gaalan's and thrusting now at the Sith Lord's face, now at shoulder or knee or torso-came increasingly close to touching flesh.

Luke smiled at the man.

Luke evaluates Kyp to be an expert sword master on level with Katarn in one of the FotJ books.

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Kyp, he's noticeably ahead in the force.

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Sabers: Mace with moderate difficulty

Force: Durron with ease

All Out: Leaning towards Mace by a slight margin

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Sabers: Mace stomps.

Force: Mace. Kyp is notably more powerful but he struggles to channel that, and Mace probably won't give him the chance. Could easily be convinced Kyp wins, however.

All-out: Mace. Not enough time for Kyp to bring his full power to bear before Mace is bearing down on him.

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Kyp Durron stomps