Lyoto Machida vs Dan Henderson
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So Dan Henderson was set to fight Anderson Silva until Nate Marquardt came into the picture at UFC 102. Henderson says if he is set to fight Nate then he is going to decline the fight and move up to 205.
If he moves up to 205 and does good and gets good wins then he is going to end up facing The Dragon. Who do you think would win and how would they win?
" @capall said:" i'll go with lyoto here via 2nd round ko "Henderson is a KO specialist and has never been knocked out. He has more experience and great takedowns and ground game. How would he get KO'd? "
hendo can be beat, if you want to go by stats then here we go
lyoto is undefeated so far
has faced decent opponents so far
never even been hit or hurt in the ufc
younger, bigger and is been on fire of lately
i don't know if hendo will be ko'd, that was just my prediction thats all
"@KO-Kid said:" @capall said:hendo can be beat, if you want to go by stats then here we go lyoto is undefeated so far has faced decent opponents so far never even been hit or hurt in the ufc younger, bigger and is been on fire of lately i don't know if hendo will be ko'd, that was just my prediction thats all "" i'll go with lyoto here via 2nd round ko "Henderson is a KO specialist and has never been knocked out. He has more experience and great takedowns and ground game. How would he get KO'd? "
Also Lyoto has never so much as lost a round, and Hendo doesnt have the speed.
"@capall said:"@KO-Kid said:Also Lyoto has never so much as lost a round, and Hendo doesnt have the speed. "" @capall said:hendo can be beat, if you want to go by stats then here we go lyoto is undefeated so far has faced decent opponents so far never even been hit or hurt in the ufc younger, bigger and is been on fire of lately i don't know if hendo will be ko'd, that was just my prediction thats all "" i'll go with lyoto here via 2nd round ko "Henderson is a KO specialist and has never been knocked out. He has more experience and great takedowns and ground game. How would he get KO'd? "
excellent point i forgot to mention sir
" @KO-Kid said:Henderson has beat most of the best guys out their including:" @capall said:hendo can be beat, if you want to go by stats then here we go lyoto is undefeated so far has faced decent opponents so far never even been hit or hurt in the ufc younger, bigger and is been on fire of lately i don't know if hendo will be ko'd, that was just my prediction thats all "" i'll go with lyoto here via 2nd round ko "Henderson is a KO specialist and has never been knocked out. He has more experience and great takedowns and ground game. How would he get KO'd? "
Carlos Newton
Antonio Nogueira
Wanderlei Silva
Renzo Gracie
Vitor Belfort
Michael Bisping
Rich Franklin
3 of those were KO's
" @capall said:" @KO-Kid said:Henderson has beat most of the best guys out their including: Carlos Newton Antonio Nogueira Wanderlei Silva Renzo Gracie Vitor Belfort Michael Bisping Rich Franklin 3 of those were KO's "" @capall said:hendo can be beat, if you want to go by stats then here we go lyoto is undefeated so far has faced decent opponents so far never even been hit or hurt in the ufc younger, bigger and is been on fire of lately i don't know if hendo will be ko'd, that was just my prediction thats all "" i'll go with lyoto here via 2nd round ko "Henderson is a KO specialist and has never been knocked out. He has more experience and great takedowns and ground game. How would he get KO'd? "
Lyoto has beaten good people too. Also Newton sucks he currently has a record of 14-13, Bisping really isn that good ethier, he fight nothing but cans.
" @KO-Kid said:But not big names like Henderson and Henderson has more power." @capall said:Lyoto has beaten good people too. Also Newton sucks he currently has a record of 14-13, Bisping really isn that good ethier, he fight nothing but cans. "" @KO-Kid said:Henderson has beat most of the best guys out their including: Carlos Newton Antonio Nogueira Wanderlei Silva Renzo Gracie Vitor Belfort Michael Bisping Rich Franklin 3 of those were KO's "" @capall said:hendo can be beat, if you want to go by stats then here we go lyoto is undefeated so far has faced decent opponents so far never even been hit or hurt in the ufc younger, bigger and is been on fire of lately i don't know if hendo will be ko'd, that was just my prediction thats all "" i'll go with lyoto here via 2nd round ko "Henderson is a KO specialist and has never been knocked out. He has more experience and great takedowns and ground game. How would he get KO'd? "
OK here we go:
rashad (ko)
thiago (ko)
tito (unanimous decision)
sokoudjou (submission)
kazuhiro (unanimous decision)
david heath (unanimous decision) - ok david is not that good
sam hodger (unanimous decision) - ok sam's not that good
vernon white (unanimous decision)
dimitri (tko)
b.j. penn (unanimous decision)
sam greco (split decision) - he done the best so far
michael mcdonald (submission)
rich franklin (tko)
stephan bonnar (tko)
kengo (unanimous decision)
hmm, that's a pretty good stat to me, how about u?
Ok, those have decisions that aren't really impressive and 2 of which yu even said aren't that good. Now if you want stats then here:
Crezio De Souza (TKO) Eric Smith (Submission)
Bakouri Gogitidze(TKO)
Renzo Gracie (KO)
Akira Shoji (TKO)
Shungo Oyama (TKO)
Murila Bustamante(TKO)
Kazuhiro Nakamura(TKO)
Ryo Chonan (TKO)
Akihiro Gono (KO)
Wanderlei Silva(KO)
Michael Bisping (KO)
Way better stats than Machida and not even all of Hendersons wins either.
Machida. Hendo is strong and has good knockouts, but it wouldnt help him any if he couldnt hit Lyoto. If Silva was able to submit Hendo, then Machida could do it also.
" @KO-Kid: u also forgot to mention some notable losses that hendo has and lyoto doesn't have any some of the fights that hendo had was alos easy giveaway victories as well "Henderson has won more than twice of Machida's matches and his wins almost double all of Machida's matches.
Lyoto will make Dan drink his pee
...And look at that pic of Lyoto, it looks like somebody wants a sip...
" @Cross82: lyoto is a bjj black belt himself has plenty skills on his back pending that the he even goes on his back @KO-Kid: false, hendo's record is 25-7the reason hendo has more victories is b/c he been in the game longer thats all "True,
His winning record does ALMOST double Machida's record and all of Hendo's fights together does more than double all of Machida's.
" @KO-Kid: doesn't give him any clear advangate here tho lyoto does have enough experience and skill set to win this "The only way I would think Lyoto would win is if they exchange, Lyoto would land more shots but if Hendo catches him its done and if Hendo takes him down and gets the mount then Machida would be done.
" Hendo is a great fighter, but I cannot see him defeating Lyoto, Lyoto would probably KO Hendo, nobody really saw Rashad hurt, no one ever really saw much happen to Rashad, and Lyoto destroyed him. Hendo loses and if not by KO, then by unanimous decision for sure. "Unainimous decision is how I see him losing if he did.
" i'll go with lyoto here via 2nd round ko "Is this a joke? Dan Henderson has never been Ko'd and Lyoto is not strong enough to do. Probably all the guys Lyoto has knocked out our previously undefeated fighters with untested chins (Rashad, Rich Franklin, Thiago Silva) I don't know who would win this one but it would definitely not be Machida by KO.
" Hendo would look like he was moving in slow-motion. I love Dan Henderson, but Machida would embarrass him. What is Hendo going to do, hit him with the BRH? The mere notion is absurd. He would have to rely on his wrestling, and we have seen how wrestlers do against Lyoto. "You have to remember that Machida always backs up and Henderson always moves foward so they both would be where they want to.
If Henderson makes Machida circle the ring like Bisping did then Henderson could catch him, all Machida does is back up and I see Machida falling for the same thing Bisping did while backing up. Now if Hendo misses and it goes to the ground then it would be more interesting.
" @gunswordfist said:Hahahaha. What's Fedor's super chin has to do with this? Anyway, Machida hasn't knocked out anyone with a great chin (especially not on Hendo's level). That's my point." I said it was untested when Lyoto knocked him out. "That's still inaccurate. Just because someone hasn't been knocked out, does not mean their chin hasn't been tested. Case in point: Fedor. "
" @gunswordfist said:I'm not saying any of their chins are bad. Just not on Hendo's level." Machida hasn't knocked out anyone with a great chin"What are you basing this on? Franklin has a great chin. I would say on Hendo's level, since Hendo was unable to KO him. Rashad also has a good chin. "
" @gunswordfist said:" Machida hasn't knocked out anyone with a great chin"What are you basing this on? Franklin has a great chin. I would say on Hendo's level, since Hendo was unable to KO him. Rashad also has a good chin. "
what is hendo level? how do u measure this exactly?
I don't know why people are placing Hendo on a greater level than Rashad or Franklin, I know Hendo beat Franklin, but it does not mean he is vastly superior, Hendo has never been knocked out and neither had Silva or Evans before taking on Machida and down they went, so who is to say Hendo would survive the same assault? Tito barely managed to get by, but was shut down the entire fight and pretty much did nothing.
Machida knocked thiago silva out and rashad evans. both were undefeated before they fought him
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