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    Character » Luther Strode appears in 24 issues.

    Formerly a typical nerd and a target for bullies, Luther has developed some strange talents that have changed his life forever.

    Luther Strode has Been Depowered

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    #1  Edited By mickey-mouse

    I know, it's not a battle. But, considering how often Strode has been used in battles, CaVs, and tourneys as of late. I thought it might be good to give fair warning to everyone, that according to the Series Creator: Justin Jordan. Luther Strode is not as strong or as fast as we ever thought he was. Not only that, but his PreCog technically isn't even Precog.

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    So now Strode isn't even strong enough to lift a car???? Only flip one?

    So, he can do the same thing a Strong Man at one of those contests can do?

    Only twice as strong & as fast as a World Record holder? BOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Damn, this is pretty disappointing. Anyone have thoughts?

    Strode is still an amazing comic. I just am really confused & disappointed here as a fanboy of Strode.

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    #2  Edited By mickey-mouse
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    #3  Edited By ComicStooge

    Why should a character be judged on who they can beat in a debate on Comicvine?

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    #4  Edited By mr_ingenuity  Moderator

    *sits & waits*

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    I honesty don't take too many writer statement seriously, this one included. Seems very inconsistent in comparison to what Luther Strode has done.

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    @comicstooge: No, he's still a great character. I just don't understand why certain things are drawn a certain way. I don't know I'm just disappointed. And like I said if the mods feel this topic should be moved, I'll move it. As it's not really a battle.

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    @mr_ingenuity:Yeah, I really hope this topic does not get out of control. I don't want to inflame anyone. I really just want other peoples opinion on it.

    @beaconofstrength: When it's one writer's opinion on something like Batman. I don't pay it much heed to it. But, Jordan is THE WRITER for Strode, so his opinion holds a lot more weight. I just really don't understand how he can say that about Strode when things are drawn in such a dramatic fashion.

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    I kind of knew Strode didn't really have precog. ICFTW just likes to overplay that sh!t :P

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    That's okay I didn't want him to become the next superman. I figured he was stronger though.

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    Eh, sounds about right to me to be honest. Although what he said about him dodging point blank bullets puzzles me considering Luther and his rogues have done just that numerous times.

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    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

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    #12  Edited By mickey-mouse

    @w0nd: No I didn't want him to be Superman. But, I sure as hell thought he was on a Spiderman Level? I mean why do things look that way from the way it's drawn?

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    #13  Edited By Wolverine008
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    Eh, sounds about right to me to be honest. Although what he said about him dodging point blank bullets puzzles me considering Luther and his rogues have done just that numerous times.

    He said he can do it, It is just his move reading ability and not his actual speed :)

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    @lukehero: All street levelers on the vine are overrated because guns and mook gun users job in comics.

    If they actually moved as fast as some people so they do based on dodging guns then they would be matrix dodging like crazy in fist fights but they don't.

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    @pr0metheus: It didnt take Librarian much move reading to nonchalantly move his face out the way of a magnum bullet at nigh-point blank. Just saying - you cant do that from move reading alone. The physical speed must also be there. Cassandra Cain or Daredevil couldnt do that and they can move read.

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    Bone Claw Wolverine >> Luther any day of the week.

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    #20  Edited By Wolverine008

    @dextersinister said:

    @lukehero: All street levelers on the vine are overrated because guns and mook gun users job in comics.

    If they actually moved as fast as some people so they do based on dodging guns then they would be matrix dodging like crazy in fist fights but they don't.

    Not really. Street levelers probably do move like that, but the limitations of comics prevent them from being portrayed as such. Put any street leveler with top tier speed in the real world, and they'd look absolutely ridiculous.

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    @wolverine08: LOL he'll probably hire a hitman on JJ or something.

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    #23  Edited By Wolverine008

    Bone Claw Wolverine >> Luther any day of the week.

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    #25  Edited By Wardemon32

    Its going to be funny when people pull this up in CaVs haha. But he can only lift 2 tons? Sounds like BS.

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    #28  Edited By Wolverine008

    Strode fans be like:

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    #29  Edited By FukYouRenchamp

    @i_like_swords said:

    @pr0metheus: It didnt take Librarian much move reading to nonchalantly move his face out the way of a magnum bullet at nigh-point blank. Just saying - you cant do that from move reading alone. The physical speed must also be there. Cassandra Cain or Daredevil couldnt do that and they can move read.

    Yeah but if they move there body in a way to show they are about to pull the trigger,then all you have to do is move out the way of where they are aiming.

    Cassandra Cain has dodged Sniper Fire and Daredevil has batted it away with his baton.

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    #32  Edited By MonsterStomp

    Canonicity.

    Writers above all.

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    @pr0metheus: Dude.. it wasnt an aim dodge. Librarian let a bullet come an inch from his face then moved. He didnt read where she was aiming, he flat out moved faster than the bullet. Despite what JJ said his characters move faster than bullets.. otherwise he has some retconning to do lol.

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    #34  Edited By Wardemon32

    BAIT THREAD!

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    CALLING ALL STRODE FANS!

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    I KNEW IT

    And people just ignored me and @super_buck when we mentioned it and said that you couldn't debate "known facts" about Strode.

    That being said it sounds like he is actually lowballing Strode just slightly based on on-panel feats (although he is the author lol). Should we be disappointed? Ehh maybe a little. But it's nice to have some concrete statements like this. I actually think it makes Strode more attractive in battles since more street levelers can plausibly match up against him now.

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    @i_like_swords: You may be right, but the fruit is tainted. From now on, anyone who uses Strode in a battle thread especially in a competitive CaV, JJ's tweets will be brought up.

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    #37 BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

    @wolverine08: It's tough cuz I think you're being annoying but your gifs are so funny. You're treading a thin line, better not let me catch you slippin.

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    @lukehero: I dont mind to be honest. I was into Strode before he had ever been seen on the vine battles board and I'll still like him after.

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    Strode fans be like:

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    Nah I think it's more like

    And you're all like

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    @shenkuei said:

    I KNEW IT

    And people just ignored me and @super_buck when we mentioned it and said that you couldn't debate "known facts" about Strode.

    Haha. Strode needed more statements to back up his feats and now we have them.

    The famous precog feat "Can't see a thousand moves ahead?" was absolutely abused.

    I also found his speed to be overrated quite highly.

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    @lukehero: I still favor feats over statements 99% of the time. Just because the writer had an idea of what he wanted his character to be, doesn't mean it turns out that way. Also those tweets mean nothing as long as feats can cancel them out. Hell wasn't it at one point or another, stated that Spiderman was the fourth strongest character in Marvel (Just off my memory I remember something to that degree).

    Feats>Statements almost every single time.

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    @i_like_swords: just chalk it up to a comic book limitations.

    They can't have a panel for every inch of movement and having a panel where he has his head tilted and then another where she fires wouldn't look as cool.

    Multiple examples of this.

    TDLP tried to claim Aang had literal lightning reflexes because the animators had the lightning in motion as he moved his arms.

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    @buckshot: I'll keep my game at a high level brah :)

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    #44  Edited By Wolverine008

    Strode:

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    @super_buck: He's definitely not supersonic, as is commonly claimed.

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    #46 BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

    @lukehero said:

    @i_like_swords: You may be right, but the fruit is tainted. From now on, anyone who uses Strode in a battle thread especially in a competitive CaV, JJ's tweets will be brought up.

    "The fruit is tainted" What even is that? Luther doesn't need to win fights on this website to be cool.

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    1. I can understand the disappointment,but I always read comics primarily for the good stories,that's what matters most. Not feats. A book can have insane feats,but be the worst piece of crap that I've ever seen. Basically,it's like a Rob Liefeld book (except he doesn't have good feats anyway). So I'm still gonna read.

    2. Luther still seems to be pretty strong/fast,but I am a bit confused....I guess that all of the fancy moves,movements,etc were just an effect of the dramatic art style....which I like anyway.

    3. Cue the people (particularly some Strode fans) that are gonna try to lowball other fast street levelers' speed/precognition.

    I can already see it...I can see the lowballing for Wolverine,Batman,Spider-man,Kaine,Midnighter (probably),Daredevil,Captain America,Cassandra Cain,Nightwing,etc.

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    #49  Edited By Shawnbaby

    animated, leave, simpsons, Nope, abandon, thread

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    @dextersinister: Cant chalk it up to anything. I cant post the scan but this is how it looked.

    Panel 1: she fires

    Panel 2: bullet is near his face. He looks at it and smiles

    Panel 3: he tilts his head and the bullet goes where his head was before.

    You cannot more plainly portay someone perceiving and dodging a bullet. Thats all im saying.

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