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#51 Posted by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide said:
"@Morpheus_ said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
"
Spider-Man is bloodlusted? RIP Cage. "
Grim Hunt should be published once every six months with Back in Black as a back-up story to show what Spider-man can do when he's serious. "
agreed :P @Silver2467: because Spider Man can move faster than Ock can see,same with Tarantula and every skilled fighter and Rhino,you cant hit what you cant see,Cage cant see him,cant dodge him,cant counter attack,cant block,he cant do anything here  "

(cant edit,so here goes) 
also,keep in mind when he got tagged by people he shouldnt,there was a writter and morals to hold him back,he doesnt have any of these problems here :)
#52 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide said: 
@Silver2467: because Spider Man can move faster than Ock can see,same with Tarantula and every skilled fighter and Rhino,you cant hit what you cant see,Cage cant see him,cant dodge him,cant counter attack,cant block,he cant do anything here  "
Technically, with Tarantula, given Tarantula's combat ability (not that it's the greatest in Marvel or anything), Tarantula should be able to give Spidey a good fight. SpiderMan's had some hard fights with several martial artists (Cap, DD, Elektra, Iron Fist). Now, granted, all of them are much more skilled than Tarantula, but even still, the main reason he has trouble with skilled fighters is because of his own lack of combat skill and his tendency to hold back against opponents. 
#53 Posted by Mr.Hulk_Smashin'! (2569 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @redbull said:
" @Silver2467 said:

" @redbull said:

" I don't think it's a mismatch whatsoever. Spiderman has so many more tools than "tough skin". "  
First of all, Cage is superior to him in strength by a factor of 2.5 Second of all, SpiderMan can't even hurt Cage. He can't do anything to him.  "
Um, his strength level is being overexaggerated by you. Also, Luke cage is completely vulnerable in other ways. Spiderman can blind him, suffocate him, etc. Spiderman is 100x more agile, faster, and maneuverable. With his webbing and whatnot, he can put the hurt on Luke. Seriously, how do you possibly see Luke getting a hold of Spidey? "
Uh, first of all, Cage can lift 25 tons. Spidey 10 tons. His strength is ahead by a factor of 2.5. Cage cannot be hurt by someone like Spidey. He'd need more strength to hurt him. His skin is too hard. He can't suffocate given the fact that Cage can break his webbing. Venom has broken Spidey's webbing, and his strength is roughly equal to Cage's. Spidey has no chance in the world. Now, please stop this.  "
cage can lift 15 tons at the most.
#54 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide said: 
(cant edit,so here goes) also,keep in mind when he got tagged by people he shouldnt,there was a writter and morals to hold him back,he doesnt have any of these problems here :) "
I agree with that. 
#55 Posted by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mr.Hulk_Smashin'!:  
Cage is a 25 tonner 

@Silver2467 said:
" @Matezoide said: 
@Silver2467: because Spider Man can move faster than Ock can see,same with Tarantula and every skilled fighter and Rhino,you cant hit what you cant see,Cage cant see him,cant dodge him,cant counter attack,cant block,he cant do anything here  "
Technically, with Tarantula, given Tarantula's combat ability (not that it's the greatest in Marvel or anything), Tarantula should be able to give Spidey a good fight. SpiderMan's had some hard fights with several martial artists (Cap, DD, Elektra, Iron Fist). Now, granted, all of them are much more skilled than Tarantula, but even still, the main reason he has trouble with skilled fighters is because of his own lack of combat skill and his tendency to hold back against opponents.  "

and he doesnt use his webs as much as he could or should :) 
#56 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide said: 
and he doesnt use his webs as much as he could or should :)  "
That's also true, but like I said, Spidey's pretty foolish in a fight when he's in character. 
#57 Posted by Fortanono (4889 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" Luke Cage. No disrespect, really, but you need to do research on the characters before you make a battle thread. This is a mismatch.  "
#58 Posted by daak1212 (7840 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmm I think I might go with Cage but if Spidey gets his powers from the mystical side ( Stronger, Stingers, aracnokenesis ) then spidey wins

#59 Posted by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fortanono said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" Luke Cage. No disrespect, really, but you need to do research on the characters before you make a battle thread. This is a mismatch.  "
"

yeah,this is a mismatch in Spider Man's favor
#60 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide: Don't bother arguing with him. He's a troll. You'd chew him out in a debate, since you're logical, but fanboy logic is like the Toon-force (as you well know). Honestly, I'm ashamed that a troll quoted me. 
#61 Posted by chris thompson (858 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
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Spider-Man is bloodlusted? RIP Cage. "
#62 Posted by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @Matezoide: Don't bother arguing with him. He's a troll. You'd chew him out in a debate, since you're logical, but fanboy logic is like the Toon-force (as you well know). Honestly, I'm ashamed that a troll quoted me.  "

i dont think he is a troll,just a bad debater :)
#63 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @Matezoide: Don't bother arguing with him. He's a troll. You'd chew him out in a debate, since you're logical, but fanboy logic is like the Toon-force (as you well know). Honestly, I'm ashamed that a troll quoted me.  "
i dont think he is a troll,just a bad debater :) "
He's a fanboy. He's always for the X-Men in every fight. To be honest, he really doesn't debate at all. He just says something and leaves. 
#64 Posted by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @Matezoide said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @Matezoide: Don't bother arguing with him. He's a troll. You'd chew him out in a debate, since you're logical, but fanboy logic is like the Toon-force (as you well know). Honestly, I'm ashamed that a troll quoted me.  "
i dont think he is a troll,just a bad debater :) "
He's a fanboy. He's always for the X-Men in every fight. To be honest, he really doesn't debate at all. He just says something and leaves.  "

indeed
#65 Edited by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey will win imo due to superior speed and a serious use of hispowers.=]

#66 Posted by redbull (1396 posts) - - Show Bio

I love how Silver2467 acted like an asshole to me in the first page repeatedly and this topic ended up having a great debate.

#67 Posted by Jake Fury (17922 posts) - - Show Bio

If Spidey is bloodlusted ala the last pages of Grim Hunt he puts a major hurting on Luke here.
#68 Posted by k4tzm4n (35174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury:
The funny thing is, he wasn't really even bloodlusted.  He just wasn't holding back and looking to take them out quickly.  I'd hate to see the result if he was actually trying to kill them :-O !
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#69 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n: Is Luke more durable than rhino??=]
#70 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio
@Silver2467 said:
" @Matezoide said:
" Luke IS 2.5 times stronger than Spidey,but this wont help him first of all,Luke cant break Spider Man's web if he uses all of it on him second,he can easy web Luke's mouth (ya know....web down his throath) third,Spider Man can hurt Cage,specially with the usage of terrain,if he can hurt Rhino,classic Titania and even one shot Bulldozer,Luke is eventualy going downheck,classic Iron Fist KO'ed the shIt out of Luke in one punch while holding back Spider Man wins and easy "
What? Spidey has had a hard enough time hurting Venom. He can't hurt Cage. "
Venom is more durable than Cage.=]
#71 Posted by k4tzm4n (35174 posts) - - Show Bio
@spidey 15:
I'm far from an expert on Cage, so I can't really make that call.  Rhino's armor can easily withstand explosions and bullets, but during the classic era and barrel of acid burned through it.
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#72 Posted by Jake Fury (17922 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
"@Jake Fury: The funny thing is, he wasn't really even bloodlusted.  He just wasn't holding back and looking to take them out quickly.  I'd hate to see the result if he was actually trying to kill them :-O ! "

No doubt. He put a major hurting on the Kravinoffs.
#73 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n: I'm asking because if spidey was able to actually hurt rhino then if rhino is more durable than Luke, that means spidey can hurt him too. Well, i will wait for someone to educate me.=P
#74 Posted by k4tzm4n (35174 posts) - - Show Bio
@spidey 15:
Spider-Man can't hurt him through his armor.  Rhino himself  is less durable than Cage, it's his armor which I question about being equal to or even more durable than Cage's skin.
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#75 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n: Well that's true. But if spidey uses his strength at a bloodlusted level, shouldn't be able to hurt him( luke cage )?=]
#76 Posted by Jake Fury (17922 posts) - - Show Bio

 
In the 1st New Avengers arc Luke's skin was able to resist Carnage's attacks. But I've also seen him vulnerable to electrical attacks from M-11 (Agents of Atlas) and in the Daredevil Cage Match one-shot Matt was able to hurt him with some well placed punches.

#77 Posted by k4tzm4n (35174 posts) - - Show Bio
@spidey 15:
Like I said, I'm hardly an expert on Cage's limitations when it comes to blunt force trauma.  But, I think Spider-Man would have no issue incapacitating him with webbing and avoiding his attacks.  And if he can incapacitate him, I see no reason why he wouldn't then web down his mouth for the kill.  After all, he's threatened to do that in the past.
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#78 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury: WOW! 0_0
#79 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
" @spidey 15: Like I said, I'm hardly an expert on Cage's limitations when it comes to blunt force trauma.  But, I think Spider-Man would have no issue incapacitating him with webbing and avoiding his attacks.  And if he can incapacitate him, I see no reason why he wouldn't then web down his mouth for the kill.  After all, he's threatened to do that in the past. "
Yeah, a bloodlusted spidey doesn't need to hurt him at all, his webbing is the key here. I think he threatened kingpin with that.=]
#80 Posted by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury said:
"

 
In the 1st New Avengers arc Luke's skin was able to resist Carnage's attacks. But I've also seen him vulnerable to electrical attacks from M-11 (Agents of Atlas) and in the Daredevil Cage Match one-shot Matt was able to hurt him with some well placed punches.

"


zeah,but DD almost broke his hand when he punched Cage :P
#81 Posted by k4tzm4n (35174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide said:
"@Jake Fury said:
"

 
In the 1st New Avengers arc Luke's skin was able to resist Carnage's attacks. But I've also seen him vulnerable to electrical attacks from M-11 (Agents of Atlas) and in the Daredevil Cage Match one-shot Matt was able to hurt him with some well placed punches.

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zeah,but DD almost broke his hand when he punched Cage :P "

To be fair, Bendis also couldn't write Carnage for jack =P
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#82 Posted by Jake Fury (17922 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
"@Matezoide said:
"@Jake Fury said:
"

 
In the 1st New Avengers arc Luke's skin was able to resist Carnage's attacks. But I've also seen him vulnerable to electrical attacks from M-11 (Agents of Atlas) and in the Daredevil Cage Match one-shot Matt was able to hurt him with some well placed punches.

"
zeah,but DD almost broke his hand when he punched Cage :P "
To be fair, Bendis also couldn't write Carnage for jack =P "

True...damn I'm not getting any notfications from replies today.
#83 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
" To be fair, Bendis also couldn't write Carnage for jack =P "
Don't be harsh on the guy, he probably got 616 and 1610 mixed up.
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#84 Posted by k4tzm4n (35174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" To be fair, Bendis also couldn't write Carnage for jack =P "
Don't be harsh on the guy, he probably got 616 and 1610 mixed up. "

So that's where Gwen has been this entire time...
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#85 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" To be fair, Bendis also couldn't write Carnage for jack =P "
Don't be harsh on the guy, he probably got 616 and 1610 mixed up. "

So that's where Gwen has been this entire time... "
LOL. That would be slightly before his time, I fancy.
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#86 Posted by k4tzm4n (35174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_:
A time before Bendis? Good sir, you're a fool to believe such.  Stan Lee himself has stated Bendis was his inspiration.  I believe God was quoted saying the same, too.
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#87 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
" @Morpheus_: A time before Bendis? Good sir, you're a fool to believe such.  Stan Lee himself has stated Bendis was his inspiration.  I believe God was quoted saying the same, too. "
Scans or it never happened.
 
And by scans, I mean your extraordinary designs in microsoft paint.
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#88 Posted by k4tzm4n (35174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" @Morpheus_: A time before Bendis? Good sir, you're a fool to believe such.  Stan Lee himself has stated Bendis was his inspiration.  I believe God was quoted saying the same, too. "
Scans or it never happened.
 
And by scans, I mean your extraordinary designs in microsoft paint.
"

It shall be done.
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#89 Posted by k4tzm4n (35174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_:

 


 
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#90 Posted by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n:  
LMFAO
#91 Posted by k4tzm4n (35174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide:
=)
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#92 Posted by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
"@Matezoide: =) "

:D
#93 Posted by Vance Astro (90726 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man.SLAUGHTERHOUSE.

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#94 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n said:
" @Morpheus_:



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LMFAO. You surpassed yourself.
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#95 Edited by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:

"Spider-Man.SLAUGHTERHOUSE. "


this post preety much ends this thread
#96 Posted by Vance Astro (90726 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide said:
" @Vance Astro said:

"Spider-Man.SLAUGHTERHOUSE. "

you  certainly took your time   "
This shouldn't have even been made.The fact that it's 5 pages just gives the illusion that Cage can even hang with Spider-Man.
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#97 Posted by k4tzm4n (35174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" @Morpheus_:

 


 
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LMFAO. You surpassed yourself. "


 
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#98 Posted by karrob (4267 posts) - - Show Bio

Im rolling with Cage

#99 Posted by pulamea (247 posts) - - Show Bio
@chris thompson said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
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Spider-Man is bloodlusted? RIP Cage. "
"
bloodlusted spiderman beat iron man and damaged his armor
cage is a joke seriously i dont know why people say he is such a good fighter 
i dont even think hes stronger than spiderman as far as i've seen spiderman seems more stronger and even if he is it's still a curbstomp in spiderman's favor if he's not holding back
#100 Posted by kitsuneconundrum (208 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-man can stand on the ceiling. Besides, like boxing, you can just do a ko from a concussion by causing Luke's brain to hit against his skull. I guess he speedweb him and give him some case of bad whiplash.