#1 Posted by primepower53 (5686 posts) - - Show Bio

Random Encounter Never heard of each other before  
Samson has short hair (so he's not as powerful)  
no prep  
Morals On  
Win by KO, Incapacitation, or death.  
Fight takes place in a evacuated NYC  
  

 
VS.  
 

 
 
WHO WINS?
#2 Posted by Scarbearer (726 posts) - - Show Bio

Hrm.... WEll I think even with the Short hair, Sampson should be a good deal stronger than Luke.... but Luke is a much better fighter, and I think he's got the durability to tank enough of Sampsons blows and evade/block enough of the others that he can win this.

#3 Posted by Gremlin From Kremlin (2931 posts) - - Show Bio

Samson

#4 Posted by Loki9876 (3049 posts) - - Show Bio

samson he should be stronger

#5 Posted by WindCloud (2678 posts) - - Show Bio
@primepower53: You stated that Doc Sampson is weaker than before (which  I  will assume is when he was involved with the Hulkbuster brigade to bring down the Hulk), in which case he would still be stronger than Luke Cage, but not by much.  Conclusion:  Sampson wins 7/10 times.
#6 Posted by gravitypress (2069 posts) - - Show Bio

Samson

#7 Edited by Erik (32796 posts) - - Show Bio

I am pretty sure the correlation between his hair length and strength has been done away with but for the sake of this battle, even when he had short hair, he was still a great deal more powerful than 25 tons. Samson for the win.

#8 Edited by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio

Samson murderers Cage

#9 Posted by Wise Son (1772 posts) - - Show Bio
Luke is a much better tank nowadays people....
#10 Posted by Erik (32796 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wise Son said:
Luke is a much better tank nowadays people....
He has virtually impenetrable skin and 25 ton strength. Samson has nothing to penetrate with in a fight and much more strength than 25 tons. Furthermore, Cage has his durability limits. He could not take near Hulk level hits. An explosion that leveled his apartment (not the entire building, just his own apartment space) almost killed him just a few years ago.
#11 Posted by Wise Son (1772 posts) - - Show Bio
@Erik said:
@Wise Son said:
Luke is a much better tank nowadays people....
He has virtually impenetrable skin and 25 ton strength. Samson has nothing to penetrate with in a fight and much more strength than 25 tons. Furthermore, Cage has his durability limits. He could not take near Hulk level hits. An explosion that leveled his apartment (not the entire building, just his own apartment space) almost killed him just a few years ago.
That's just PIS. I doubt Doc is at Hulk levels nowadays. Got any scans to prove otherwise? Luke has tanked shots from Juggernaut, Iron Man, etc. Just saying Luke's "stats" don't match up with his feats.
#12 Posted by Erik (32796 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wise Son
First off, Secret War was not PIS. Secondly I never said Samson was Hulk level. I said near Hulk level which is true. 
 
Luke Cage only has the durability to match his approximate strength level I.E. 25 tons. It is his skin that allows him to be virtually impenetrable. In fact, he has stated that being shot still stings. Obviously taking a hit from Juggernaut is bullsh!t considering his power levels and taking a hit from Iron Man does not mean anything to me when you are not giving context. Heck Captain America took a hit from Iron Man.
#13 Posted by PowerHerc (84031 posts) - - Show Bio

Samson, even with short hair, is still stronger than Luke but because his strength is reduced he will lose because of Luke's superior fighting skill and experience.

#14 Posted by Erik (32796 posts) - - Show Bio
@PowerHerc said:

Samson, even with short hair, is still stronger than Luke but because his strength is reduced he will lose because of Luke's superior fighting skill and experience.

Nah.
#15 Posted by Wise Son (1772 posts) - - Show Bio
@Erik: That was before Luke started taking off as a solo character. Secret War (1984) was more than a "few years ago". What you typed was misleading. I meant to add near in there. 
 
When did announce that? The 80s too? I'm not arguing that but it seems to me that his durability (and by association his strength) has increased. Current Juggernaut (Pre-worthy) isn't as strong as you'd like to think. I'm not saying he is as strong as Juggs or Doc but he's stronger than 25 tons. Titanium has a tensile strength of about 370 psi. Meaning he can withstand much more than 25 tons of damage.  
 
That's PIS too. Cap shouldn't survive half of the attacks he gets hit with. Iron Man's phasers should hit Cap with enough force to break bones, not just toss him around. 
 
 
We're forgetting another side of the equation here. Luke has superior fighting skills and experience. Doc might out muscle him but Luke out classes him in terms of skill. Bricks have been beaten before by the more skilled. 
#16 Posted by Erik (32796 posts) - - Show Bio
@Wise Son
  •  Lol. Secret War =/= Secret Wars.
  • Current Juggernaut is still miles above what Luke Cage should be able to handle.
  • Luke is not stronger than 25 tons.
  • I was merely making a point with the Captain America taking a hit from Iron Man. Namely that you are not providing context to him taking hits from characters that are miles above him. I bet they were either circumstantial or PIS. 
  • Just because Luke has been in the game longer than Samson, does not mean he is more skilled. What kind of training are you suggesting Luke has?
#17 Posted by primepower53 (5686 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, he WAS trained by Iron Fist...

#18 Posted by the darknessss (2750 posts) - - Show Bio
@Erik said:


                    @Wise Son said:

Luke is a much better tank nowadays people....
He has virtually impenetrable skin and 25 ton strength. Samson has nothing to penetrate with in a fight and much more strength than 25 tons. Furthermore, Cage has his durability limits. He could not take near Hulk level hits. An explosion that leveled his apartment (not the entire building, just his own apartment space) almost killed him just a few years ago.

                   

               
#19 Posted by SUNMAN (7239 posts) - - Show Bio

current Luke Cage wins

#20 Posted by Juggy313 (112 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke Cage wins

#21 Posted by cosmicallyaware1 (4334 posts) - - Show Bio

what is it with noobs bumping years old threads lately!?!?

#22 Posted by DaseanComerWCR (888 posts) - - Show Bio

what is it with noobs bumping years old threads lately!?!?

BUMPPED!!

#23 Posted by Darkgenex (792 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke.

#24 Posted by nightwing737 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

Seems like a pretty good fight.

#25 Posted by dondave (37445 posts) - - Show Bio

Cage oneshots

#26 Posted by WarlordEternal (2404 posts) - - Show Bio

Against a short-haired Samson? Cage wins.

#27 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5421 posts) - - Show Bio

Cage can take this.