#1 Posted by Super-Buster (2358 posts) - - Show Bio
Luke & Danny
Sparring match in the danger room set to Times Square, New York. Healers are on stand-by
Remy & Lucas
 and can heal anything short of instant death. Bishop's time traveling has been disabled. Links: Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Gambit, Bishop
#2 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

Well personally i think cage and fist can win

#3 Posted by Akira Overdrive (10077 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke and Fist

#4 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

Cage and Fist.

Iron Fist should be able to take Gambit and Bishop can't hurt Cage because there is no energy to absorb from him.

#5 Edited by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

actually i pick team two. Gambit should take out Luke by making his body explode and Lucas could absorb every energy that Iron Fist releases. Not only that but Iron Fist can't escape ever explosions coming from Gambit. He has to get hit by something like random shrapnel. 

#6 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"actually i pick team two. Gambit should take out Luke by making his body explode and Lucas could absorb every energy that Iron Fist releases. Not only that but Iron Fist can't escape ever explosions coming from Gambit. He has to get hit by something like random shrapnel. "

How can Gamvit make his body explode? His power only effects non-living objects. And Bishop hasn't been known to be able to absorb mystic energy and that is what his ironfist is composed of. And then again, he doesn't need it to beat him.
#7 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

actually Gambit has the power to make living things explode as well. And mystic energy is still energy, is it not? 

#8 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"actually Gambit has the power to make living things explode as well. And mystic energy is still energy, is it not? "

Never seen Gambit do that. You have an example?

Mystical energy is energy that doesn't behave by the laws of physics like the natural energy that Bishop absorbs.
#9 Posted by Erik (32790 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
"oldmagic said:
"actually Gambit has the power to make living things explode as well. And mystic energy is still energy, is it not? "

Never seen Gambit do that. You have an example?

Mystical energy is energy that doesn't behave by the laws of physics like the natural energy that Bishop absorbs."

He did it to Shaw in the a recent issue of X-Men Legacy.
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#10 Posted by Erik (32790 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
"oldmagic said:
"actually Gambit has the power to make living things explode as well. And mystic energy is still energy, is it not? "

Never seen Gambit do that. You have an example?

Mystical energy is energy that doesn't behave by the laws of physics like the natural energy that Bishop absorbs."
He did it to Shaw in a recent issue of X-Men Legacy.
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#11 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio
Alpha said:
"oldmagic said:
"actually Gambit has the power to make living things explode as well. And mystic energy is still energy, is it not? "

Never seen Gambit do that. You have an example?

Mystical energy is energy that doesn't behave by the laws of physics like the natural energy that Bishop absorbs."
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#12 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"Alpha said:
"oldmagic said:
"actually Gambit has the power to make living things explode as well. And mystic energy is still energy, is it not? "

Never seen Gambit do that. You have an example?

Mystical energy is energy that doesn't behave by the laws of physics like the natural energy that Bishop absorbs."
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I can accept that but I'm not sure it would work on Cage. He seemed resistant to some things. At best they would kill each other cause Gambit has to get close to do it and CAge could snap his neck before he exploded. That would leave Iron Fist and Bishop, and even if Bishop is able to absorb mystical energy, Danny doesn't need to use it to beat him,.
#13 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Agreed, for the most part. I don't think Gambit and Bishop can win here. Just wanted to show the scan.

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#14 Edited by Vance Astro (91233 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit & Bishop.CURBSTOMP.MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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#15 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn, curbstomp even

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#16 Posted by Vance Astro (91233 posts) - - Show Bio

Gambit lends Bishop some power and they go on a long range assault.

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#17 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Gambit lends Bishop some power and they go on a long range assault."
lol its possible. But what if they miss Iron Fist? Now Gambit is drained and practically useless. Or say it hits Cage but only knocks him back?
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#18 Posted by Erik (32790 posts) - - Show Bio

Bishop can use his absorbed energy to enhance his strength as well so if Gambit were to power him up, he could go toe to toe with Cage.

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#19 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
"Bishop can use his absorbed energy to enhance his strength as well so if Gambit were to power him up, he could go toe to toe with Cage."
That would leave a weakened Gambit to take on Iron Fist. Iron Fist would finish off Gambit before Bishop could beat Cage. It would be a two on one.
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#20 Posted by Vance Astro (91233 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Gambit lends Bishop some power and they go on a long range assault."
lol its possible. But what if they miss Iron Fist? Now Gambit is drained and practically useless. Or say it hits Cage but only knocks him back?"
Missing isn't a problem with explosions because even if you miss..someone could still get hit by the impact.I don't think Cage is fast enough to hand with Bishop or Gambit while letting off projectiles.Dodging a bullet or a lazer is one thing but you can only dodge so many explosions.
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#21 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Gambler said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Gambit lends Bishop some power and they go on a long range assault."
lol its possible. But what if they miss Iron Fist? Now Gambit is drained and practically useless. Or say it hits Cage but only knocks him back?"
Missing isn't a problem with explosions because even if you miss..someone could still get hit by the impact.I don't think Cage is fast enough to hand with Bishop or Gambit while letting off projectiles.Dodging a bullet or a lazer is one thing but you can only dodge so many explosions."
Explosions hurt Cage?
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#22 Posted by Erik (32790 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"erik said:
"Bishop can use his absorbed energy to enhance his strength as well so if Gambit were to power him up, he could go toe to toe with Cage."
That would leave a weakened Gambit to take on Iron Fist. Iron Fist would finish off Gambit before Bishop could beat Cage. It would be a two on one."
I wasn't saying that is what would be used. It is something that could be used.
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#23 Posted by Vance Astro (91233 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Gambler said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Gambit lends Bishop some power and they go on a long range assault."
lol its possible. But what if they miss Iron Fist? Now Gambit is drained and practically useless. Or say it hits Cage but only knocks him back?"
Missing isn't a problem with explosions because even if you miss..someone could still get hit by the impact.I don't think Cage is fast enough to hand with Bishop or Gambit while letting off projectiles.Dodging a bullet or a lazer is one thing but you can only dodge so many explosions."
Explosions hurt Cage?"
Yea...he may not bleed or show damage but he'll feel it.
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#24 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
"Gambler said:
"erik said:
"Bishop can use his absorbed energy to enhance his strength as well so if Gambit were to power him up, he could go toe to toe with Cage."
That would leave a weakened Gambit to take on Iron Fist. Iron Fist would finish off Gambit before Bishop could beat Cage. It would be a two on one."
I wasn't saying that is what would be used. It is something that could be used."
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Vance Astro said:
"Gambler said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Gambler said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Gambit lends Bishop some power and they go on a long range assault."
lol its possible. But what if they miss Iron Fist? Now Gambit is drained and practically useless. Or say it hits Cage but only knocks him back?"
Missing isn't a problem with explosions because even if you miss..someone could still get hit by the impact.I don't think Cage is fast enough to hand with Bishop or Gambit while letting off projectiles.Dodging a bullet or a lazer is one thing but you can only dodge so many explosions."
Explosions hurt Cage?"
Yea...he may not bleed or show damage but he'll feel it."
Will it stop him? Like he'll feel it but will it be enough to put him down? I guess it would depend on the explosion huh
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#25 Posted by Vance Astro (91233 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"erik said:
"Gambler said:
"erik said:
"Bishop can use his absorbed energy to enhance his strength as well so if Gambit were to power him up, he could go toe to toe with Cage."
That would leave a weakened Gambit to take on Iron Fist. Iron Fist would finish off Gambit before Bishop could beat Cage. It would be a two on one."
I wasn't saying that is what would be used. It is something that could be used."
Gotcha

Vance Astro said:
"Gambler said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Gambler said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Gambit lends Bishop some power and they go on a long range assault."
lol its possible. But what if they miss Iron Fist? Now Gambit is drained and practically useless. Or say it hits Cage but only knocks him back?"
Missing isn't a problem with explosions because even if you miss..someone could still get hit by the impact.I don't think Cage is fast enough to hand with Bishop or Gambit while letting off projectiles.Dodging a bullet or a lazer is one thing but you can only dodge so many explosions."
Explosions hurt Cage?"
Yea...he may not bleed or show damage but he'll feel it."
Will it stop him? Like he'll feel it but will it be enough to put him down? I guess it would depend on the explosion huh"
It's enough to blow him back until they can figure a way to put him down.Iron Man broke him off without using any weapons so impacts do leave their mark.
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#26 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio

lmao damn you've almost got me changing my mind. But not before I dig up some scans.

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#27 Posted by Vance Astro (91233 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean even if Gambit and Bishop can't beat Cage with their powers alone...they can think of something...he's not very fast and not very smart.Iron Fist is fast but if Gambit has even half a deck..without killing him,he'd be taken down in minutes....seconds if he wanted to kill him.His agility isn't that great...Murdock told him so.He can probably dodge a few bullets but explosions cover such a large radius and don't even have to hit to be effective.Bishop & Gambit would only then have to figure out how to take Cage down...alot things you think wouldn't knock him out actually would.

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#28 Posted by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"I mean even if Gambit and Bishop can't beat Cage with their powers alone...they can think of something...he's not very fast and not very smart.Iron Fist is fast but if Gambit has even half a deck..without killing him,he'd be taken down in minutes....seconds if he wanted to kill him.His agility isn't that great...Murdock told him so.He can probably dodge a few bullets but explosions cover such a large radius and don't even have to hit to be effective.Bishop & Gambit would only then have to figure out how to take Cage down...alot things you think wouldn't knock him out actually would."
"They can think of something" is speculation. Cage and Iron First are more likely to think of something. They easily have the edge in experience (in terms of working as a team). They've done it for years. Bishop and Gambit had one run. There's also no guarantee either one would get caught in an explosion. Iron Fist could dodge a card or several and they all go flying down the street while Iron Fist keeps rushing Gambit. Or even Bishop. No one says they have to pair off as Gambit vs IF and Bishop vs Cage. Iron Fist might charge Bishop, easily dodging his rifle blasts before lying him out. Gambit's cards may have no affect on Cage what so ever. You may be right, alot of things you wouldn't think could take out Cage, could. But do Gambit and Bishop have em? I'd say no.
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#29 Posted by Vance Astro (91233 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"Vance Astro said:
"I mean even if Gambit and Bishop can't beat Cage with their powers alone...they can think of something...he's not very fast and not very smart.Iron Fist is fast but if Gambit has even half a deck..without killing him,he'd be taken down in minutes....seconds if he wanted to kill him.His agility isn't that great...Murdock told him so.He can probably dodge a few bullets but explosions cover such a large radius and don't even have to hit to be effective.Bishop & Gambit would only then have to figure out how to take Cage down...alot things you think wouldn't knock him out actually would."
"They can think of something" is speculation. Cage and Iron First are more likely to think of something. They easily have the edge in experience (in terms of working as a team). They've done it for years. Bishop and Gambit had one run. There's also no guarantee either one would get caught in an explosion. Iron Fist could dodge a card or several and they all go flying down the street while Iron Fist keeps rushing Gambit. Or even Bishop. No one says they have to pair off as Gambit vs IF and Bishop vs Cage. Iron Fist might charge Bishop, easily dodging his rifle blasts before lying him out. Gambit's cards may have no affect on Cage what so ever. You may be right, alot of things you wouldn't think could take out Cage, could. But do Gambit and Bishop have em? I'd say no."
If it wasn't 3:20 in the morning I could respond to this,I'll have to pick this up later.
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#30 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

letme get this straight u pit two martial artests vs two non martial artests luke cage is resistant to all and iron fist well i antisipate iron fist going down quick but gambit and bishop cant do anything to luke. he would brake them!!

#31 Posted by fesak (7054 posts) - - Show Bio

I would put my money on Cage & Fist too.
Not only are thy more skilled, but they have 10+ years in fighting with each other. They work really well as a team, whereas G&B only have fought together occasionally.

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#32 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

not to mention bishop is only even useful in this fight if gambit powers him up. and even then bishop can only hurt iron fist.

#33 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio
kaino12 said:
"not to mention bishop is only even useful in this fight if gambit powers him up. and even then bishop can only hurt iron fist."

I agree. And that could be a problem as well with his speed and agility.
#34 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

well speed and agility wise bishop has hit people who can time travel so i think he can hit iron fist.
WAIT does bishop have his guns cus im sure he has an adamainum bullet somewhere.

#35 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio
kaino12 said:
"well speed and agility wise bishop has hit people who can time travel so i think he can hit iron fist.
WAIT does bishop have his guns cus im sure he has an adamainum bullet somewhere."

Iron Fist has dodged bullets. then there is Cage who deflects them.
#36 Edited by The_MVPs (84693 posts) - - Show Bio
kaino12 said:
"letme get this straight u pit two martial artests vs two non martial artests luke cage is resistant to all and iron fist well i antisipate iron fist going down quick but gambit and bishop cant do anything to luke. he would brake them!!"
Actually Gambit is a master of  the French Martial Art Savate.
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#37 Posted by King Saturn (224189 posts) - - Show Bio
I think Iron Fist and Luke Cage win here... I really dont know if Gambit can hurt Luke Cage with charge blast attacks... and Bishop will have issues fighting Iron Fist.. but its a good fight though...very close
#38 Edited by ghost_rider1 (3499 posts) - - Show Bio

im gonna say team two. alot of ppl are underestimating bishop. if gambit was to gived bishop energy that he can easily go toe to toe with cage.....if not outright over power him. bishop can use energy to gain super strength, stamina, healing capabilities, and he gets invulnerability. he would most likely destroy cage if he has stored energy. i doubt iron fist can dodge too many explosions from gambit. he will go down first and cage will follow soon after

#39 Posted by dondave (37410 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

#40 Posted by Wyldsong (5572 posts) - - Show Bio

Cage and Fist for reasons already stated. Let's also not forget: Danny has created AOE effects with his chi, as well charging objects and using them as chi enhanced projectiles, not to mention his healing and so on. I do think it will still be a close fight, but team 1 takes in my opinion.

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#41 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12184 posts) - - Show Bio

I say Remmy charges Bishop and blasts the crap out of team 1 like a laser turret.