- This is Lucifer from Supernatural series
- Thor from Marvel cinematic universe
- Morals off, who wins and why?
VS
- This is Lucifer from Supernatural series
- Thor from Marvel cinematic universe
- Morals off, who wins and why?
VS
Interesting... I have questions. Does Thor have Mjolnir? Is Lucifer in the host in that picture or his true host?
Supernatural characters are so overrated. Thor stomps. What are feats of Lucifer that put him on Thor's level?
They can be, but Lucifer did kill all the Pagan Gods in the Supernaturalverse, with ease, and pops people by clicking his fingers. I'm sure Thor is stronger, and possibly more durable, but Lucifer can heal himself, i think, and is probably faster than thor. They are both very experienced combatants, but Thor has seen more standard war, while it seems Lucifer has seen more killing and torturing.
I'm gonna wait until my questions are answered before i over-think this, though.
Interesting... I have questions. Does Thor have Mjolnir? Is Lucifer in the host in that picture or his true host?
He has Mjolnir, it's Lucifer from picture.
@harrup said:
Well it's said in supernatural that just the throw-out from a battle between Lucifer and Michael (who is about equal) would decimate half the planet.
That is stated, but Lucifer has never lived up to that statement, in terms of power. I think he's held back by not being in his true host, but he still hasn't proven himself to be capable of destroying half a planet. His actual feats are far below planet-threatening.
He has Mjolnir, it's Lucifer from picture.
Then i reckon Thor wins, for the aforementioned reasons plus the hammer giving him flight (not the biggest help, but it's an advantage) and some serious lightening attacks. I'm pretty sure Thor would simply destroy Lucifer's host body after a decent fight, but i don't think he can destroy Lucifer himself. His true Angelic form would probably be too much Thor, but that's more debatable.
Lucifer stomps.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thor gets utterly merked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Supernatural characters are so overrated. Thor stomps. What are feats of Lucifer that put him on Thor's level?
They can be, but Lucifer did kill all the Pagan Gods in the Supernaturalverse, with ease, and pops people by clicking his fingers. I'm sure Thor is stronger, and possibly more durable, but Lucifer can heal himself, i think, and is probably faster than thor. They are both very experienced combatants, but Thor has seen more standard war, while it seems Lucifer has seen more killing and torturing.
I'm gonna wait until my questions are answered before i over-think this, though.
Gods that were seriously depowered. None of them had any feats. Thor has reacted faster than IM who has good reaction feats.
Lucifer gets stomped. Hard
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Lucifer gets stomped. Hard
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Nah.
Thor stomps. i doubt lucifer can make a super durable god explode like that
...Castiel? Odin?
Anyways, IIRC Gabriel, stated to be the weakest Archangel and someone who Lucifer taught every he (Gabriel) knows, was warping reality and changing the laws of physics. He also brought the Hulk to life. Lucifer could do the same. Movie Thor vs. Movie and Comic Hulk = a loss for Movie Thor. Or Lucifer just snaps.
@darkraiden: the hulk? comic hulk? what are you talking about? why is comic people here?
@darkraiden: the hulk? comic hulk? what are you talking about? why is comic people here?
Gabriel, Lucifer's student and inferior brought Hulk to life from a drawing or a comic, I forget which one. Lucifer "taught Gabriel everything he knows" and thus can do the same.
@darkraiden: what did that hulk do?
@darkraiden: the hulk? comic hulk? what are you talking about? why is comic people here?
Gabriel, Lucifer's student and inferior brought Hulk to life from a drawing or a comic, I forget which one. Lucifer "taught Gabriel everything he knows" and thus can do the same.
Which episode was this?
@darkraiden: the hulk? comic hulk? what are you talking about? why is comic people here?
Gabriel, Lucifer's student and inferior brought Hulk to life from a drawing or a comic, I forget which one. Lucifer "taught Gabriel everything he knows" and thus can do the same.
Which episode was this?
I remember seeing it when he was warping reality I think as "The Trickster" or ironically for this thread, "Loki".
So it should be
Either Season 2, episode 15 "Tall Tales" or Season 3 Episode 11 "Mystery Spot" going from the wiki
http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Gabriel
Lucifer should take. Just by touching down he caused hurricanes, mass extinction and a slight temperature drop in Detroit. His full potential unleashed was stated several times over to torch half the planet. Thor hasn't shown anywhere near that much power output or anything to indicate that he could.
As a Thor fan. This is a stomp in Lucifers favor. Lucifer snap his finger then boom, Thor suffers some form of mental retardation. Lucifer will then proceed to date Natalie Portman while Thor becomes some sort of a hobo, who roams the street while constantly shi***** himself. T_T
@rbt said:
Gods that were seriously depowered. None of them had any feats. Thor has reacted faster than IM who has good reaction feats.
That's true, they were essentially featless, but we can infer. Iron Man's reaction speed isn't that impressive, he's only human, even when in the suit, and i don't remember Thor moving at superhuman speeds, excluding flight, obviously.
Gabriel, Lucifer's student and inferior brought Hulk to life from a drawing or a comic, I forget which one. Lucifer "taught Gabriel everything he knows" and thus can do the same.
Nope. It was the Hulk from the old live action tv series, Lou Ferrigno. Thor would stomp him, he's a complete non-factor.
i doubt lucifer can make a super durable god explode like that
I think Thor has a very good chance of winning, myself, but i'm starting to waver. Does the exploding-people thing rely on them not being super durable? Lucifer has blown up Angels with a click of his fingers, after all.
Lucifer should take. Just by touching down he caused hurricanes, mass extinction and a slight temperature drop in Detroit. His full potential unleashed was stated several times over to torch half the planet. Thor hasn't shown anywhere near that much power output or anything to indicate that he could.
What do you mean by "touching down", and when did Lucifer cause hurricanes and mass extinction? Also, as i've already said, the destroying-half-the-planet thing was only a statement, and was to do with Lucifer fighting Michael, not just Lucifer, and, most importantly, Lucifer has never actually shown himself to be capable of destroying anywhere near half a planet. It's a lot to assume, so we should go by his actual feats.
@Silverrings: IM has dodged bullets and missiles before. Thor has reacted before him. What are the best reaction feats of Lucifer anyway? Reacting to Gabriel? That doesn't say much.
@silverrings: then what is his limit to it? or do you mean he can blow up anything with a click of his fingers?
@Silverrings: IM has dodged bullets and missiles before. Thor has reacted before him. What are the best reaction feats of Lucifer anyway? Reacting to Gabriel? That doesn't say much.
Iron Man dodged bullets? Missiles, yes, but when did he dodge bullets? And, again, when did Thor react faster than iron Man? I wasn't thinking about Lucifer's reaction time. He's got Angel-speed and he can teleport.
^^ Also, when has Lucifer made archangels blow up? IIRC, he made Castiel blow up, who's an angel.
That was just a typo.
@silverrings: then what is his limit to it? or do you mean he can blow up anything with a click of his fingers?
I don't know, that's why i asked... I'll look it up.
@silverrings: then what is his limit to it? or do you mean he can blow up anything with a click of his fingers?
Castiel (who was blown up) was rocking some pretty solid durability feats. Example:
And Lucifer blew him up with a snap of his fingers. Pretty sure he's at least doing some pretty serious internal damage to movie Thor with that move.
@harrup: that is a healing feat. i can blow a guy with awesome healing up and he dies, but i can not blow a durable guy up in the first place
@harrup: that is a healing feat. i can blow a guy with awesome healing up and he dies, but i can not blow a durable guy up in the first place
He was tanking the shotgun blasts. The knife's magic or some other mumbo jumbo.
@harrup: wow, magic. is the magic in it strong?
@rbt: Lucifer stomps thor. anything thor can do Lucifer can do at a greater affect.... and more
@harrup: wow, magic. is the magic in it strong?
Well it's one of a very small number of weapons capable of actually killing a demon in the supernatural universe, which are otherwise pretty much indestructible and can only be defeated by an exorcism which just sends them back to hell.
Not sure how that translates in to angels/ gods etc. though.
@harrup: sounds pretty good, though can you use it to kill Thor? it might be able to but i still want to make sure
Thor has super durability?
Loki - who has no strength feats - stabbed him in the abdomen.
What super durability?
Lucifer blew Castiel up from the inside out. Thor has no durability feats to suggest he could take that.
@harrup: sounds pretty good, though can you use it to kill Thor? it might be able to but i still want to make sure
Well a run of the mill angel can survive it, and we're comparing Thor to Lucifer, who is pretty much the peak an angel can reach, along with Michael, so I'm putting my money on no.
Still, it killed 3 of the seven deadly sins personified, so there's that.
@fallschirmjager: he was smashed around through walls crates and planes by the hulk, smashed on the head by a giant, iron man slammed him through several trees... super durability right there.
there is still the question whether he can do that to Thor or not, but lucifers full power is enough to destroy half the earth, so i think lucifer takes it 6/10
@fallschirmjager: he was smashed around through walls crates and planes by the hulk, smashed on the head by a giant, iron man slammed him through several trees... super durability right there.
nothing to suggest he could survive being blown up for the inside out.
and again. Loki stabbed him on the tower with no effort.
@fallschirmjager: nothing suggests that lucifer can blow him up either
@baron_von_santa: why couldn't he? He just blew up an Angel of the lord that cannot otherwise be killed unless its by holy weapons.
@fallschirmjager: nothing suggests that lucifer can blow him up either
yeah it has. Lucifer has the power to destroy a planet, plus hes a reality warper.
Lucifer true form would kill thor
@holyserpent: @fallschirmjager: huh, i just said that out of pure stubbornness. lucifer wins 8/10.
@baron_von_santa: it probably be worth revisiting aafter TDW is released
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