#1 Posted by XxGin (1341 posts) - - Show Bio

Whos a better prep god? Both gets 1 day of prep

Round 1: Who wins with 1 day of prep?

Round 2: Who is a better prep god?

Round 3: Who would achieve more with a day of prep?

Round 4 (This is going to get scary) What would happen if they would team up?

#2 Posted by rpottage (856 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: The Doctor
Round 2: The Doctor
Round 3: The Doctor
Round 4: The Doctor would have a powerful companion (who pales in comparison to Donna).

#3 Posted by SSJLozza (1528 posts) - - Show Bio

LM

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The omniverse would be destroyed.

#4 Edited by Dredeuced (5313 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxgin said:

Whos a better prep god? Both gets 1 day of prep

Round 1: Who wins with 1 day of prep?

Round 2: Who is a better prep god?

Round 3: Who would achieve more with a day of prep?

Round 4 (This is going to get scary) What would happen if they would team up?

Lucifer all rounds -- the fourth round is inconsequential as The Doctor shouldn't bring anything to the table for someone of Lucifer's magnitude. Guy kills multiple gods while being depowered and mortal with no prep. The Doctor's prepping is great and all but I hardly see him being a multiversal being second only to the creator of all of DC.

#5 Posted by ComicStooge (11991 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxgin said:

Whos a better prep god? Both gets 1 day of prep

Round 1: Who wins with 1 day of prep?

Round 2: Who is a better prep god?

Round 3: Who would achieve more with a day of prep?

Round 4 (This is going to get scary) What would happen if they would team up?

Lucifer all rounds -- the fourth round is inconsequential as The Doctor shouldn't bring anything to the table for someone of Lucifer's magnitude. Guy kills multiple gods while being depowered and mortal with no prep. The Doctor's prepping is great and all but I hardly see him being a multiversal being second only to the creator of all of DC.

This.

I see the Dr Who fanboyism is still strong in the site.

#6 Posted by The_Imperator (1881 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer takes all four. The Doctor is good, but Lucifer is better.

#7 Edited by Kingjohnrocks (1985 posts) - - Show Bio

Doctor Who has too many fanboys.

Lucifer Morningstar DECIMATES.

#8 Posted by dondave (34297 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer ftw

#9 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2837 posts) - - Show Bio

Morningstar.

#10 Posted by IRS (455 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer all rounds.

#11 Edited by cooljammy18 (835 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't Lucifer omniscient? He should stomp with a thought in mind.

#12 Edited by JediXMan (29518 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer.

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#13 Edited by rpottage (856 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxgin said:

Whos a better prep god? Both gets 1 day of prep

Round 1: Who wins with 1 day of prep?

Round 2: Who is a better prep god?

Round 3: Who would achieve more with a day of prep?

Round 4 (This is going to get scary) What would happen if they would team up?

Lucifer all rounds -- the fourth round is inconsequential as The Doctor shouldn't bring anything to the table for someone of Lucifer's magnitude. Guy kills multiple gods while being depowered and mortal with no prep. The Doctor's prepping is great and all but I hardly see him being a multiversal being second only to the creator of all of DC.

Actually, and I have argued this before, multiversal beings shouldn't be a problem for a prepped Doctor. The Reality Bomb and the Time Lord's Ascension both are capable of destroying the whole of reality; which would include Lucifer. In addition to that; the Doctor can absorb the Time Vortex and become the Bad Wolf which has complete control over all space-time and can see all that ever was, is, and ever could be. In addition to that the Time Vortex exists everywhere, including in other universes as well as the hub to all realities (Medusa Cascade) making it omniversal. Having Omniversal control over all space-time (to the point where you can create paradoxes and create yourself, as well as completely undo death forever) and Omniversal Omniscience should put him ahead of Lucifer quite easily. And that takes very little prep (just pop open the heart of the Tardis). He doesn't do it because it would make him a vengeful god; but he easily could do it and he has done it in the comics to save people.

#14 Posted by Dredeuced (5313 posts) - - Show Bio

Proof that anything Who does is Omniversal? Affecting two realms is not omniversal, or atleast the Who omniverse is not the same scale. Sounds like fan wanking to me. Lucifer has outright tanked a blast that would've destroyed DC's multiverse, then shaped it into his own multiverse.

#15 Posted by Sethlol (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer..

#16 Edited by The_Imperator (1881 posts) - - Show Bio

@rpottage said:

Actually, and I have argued this before, multiversal beings shouldn't be a problem for a prepped Doctor. The Reality Bomb and the Time Lord's Ascension both are capable of destroying the whole of reality; which would include Lucifer. In addition to that; the Doctor can absorb the Time Vortex and become the Bad Wolf which has complete control over all space-time and can see all that ever was, is, and ever could be. In addition to that the Time Vortex exists everywhere, including in other universes as well as the hub to all realities (Medusa Cascade) making it omniversal. Having Omniversal control over all space-time (to the point where you can create paradoxes and create yourself, as well as completely undo death forever) and Omniversal Omniscience should put him ahead of Lucifer quite easily. And that takes very little prep (just pop open the heart of the Tardis). He doesn't do it because it would make him a vengeful god; but he easily could do it and he has done it in the comics to save people.

Time Vortex doesn't apply if you are beyond time. In the Whoverse, beyond the Fifth Dimension is ruled over by beings such as the Guardians, who are above the universe destroying Chronovores, etc. While singular Chronovores or Eternals can be destroyed, as a whole nothing in reality can stand up to them. Lucifer is beyond space/time. He has the capacity to manipulate anything coming at him, he is the compliment to Michael's infinite creation. IIRC, Lucifer could step outside of reality. That alone means if he doesn't want the Bad Wolf Entity to harm him, it can't. Other beings in DW, such as the Lampreys and the Memeovore, are acausal. Changes in time, attacking them with time, etc. have no effect on them. Theoretically, enough temporal energy should be able to kill anything, even the Elder Gods and the Guardians, but the sheer amount needed to would be astronomical. The Doctor burned up thousands of universes worth of temporal energy just to "kill" the Lamprey, and even then it had effortlessly eaten an infinite multiverse down to a set size.

The Time Vortex itself is nothing next to the Quantum Archangel, which is all energy in existence wielded by a single being. It was handwaving billions of complete universes into existence, and that was with the thought process and senses and awareness of a human. Heck, the Time Lords could snap the Vortex out of existence if they wanted to (Eye of Harmony), and thus the Daleks could to. The point being, while powerful within 4 dimensions, the Vortex is less useful beyond that except as a glass canon, and even then the sheer amount of energy needed to kill cosmics in DW dwarfs anything any Time Lord or less than 6 dimensional being is going to be able to bring to bear.

So effectively, Lucifer stomps on almost everything. He has infinite manipulation of things, and thus can handwave away any attack that the Doctor could send at him short of the Doctor having the Quantum Archangel powers. (sidenote: not a Lucifer reader or anything, that is just what I have heard/seen on here and other sites

#17 Posted by NeonGameWave (7688 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer all Rounds.

#18 Posted by New_World_Order (12471 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Posted by rolldestroyer (3508 posts) - - Show Bio

lucifer stomps all rounds