@those_eyes: Umm.. Yeah. Thanos B-slapped all of Marvels Entities below the LT with the IG, Molecule Man did a job that all of Marvels entities under the One above all couldn't do, and WP is a multiversal threat. Solo dolo for all.
Team wins, only person that could solo would be molecule man the others arent soloing haha I mean Thanos with IG is nowhere Lucifers level. Thanos with hotu could beat him though
the only threat here is the thought robot and i'm sure lucy will have a plan to beat it any way. Yes owen does have the raw power but his mentality nope he shouldn't go up against lucifer.
Lucifer with ease. He tanked an omniversal destroying blast and had not a scratch on him. They can't hurt him even in a fight of brute force. Then add on his intelligence and he stomps.
@darkraiden: First off he tanked a Multiversal attack. Still impressive
Second off MM solos both teams. There is a reason he was retconned. He was WAY to powerful
Michael's first death was said to release a blast that would destroy ALL of creation ergo omniversal. Lucifer survived it without a scratch. MM died to Doom before and he's not close to as powerful as Lucy is.
I am a bit curious. For those who say MM soloes; his powers are based on controlling matter and energy on a subatomic level correct? Entertain the thought that Lucifer existed before the Multiverse and matter, so who is to say he is actually composed of anything MM can manipulate.
Btw, for those asking about the tanking feat: It's from the time in his own series where he had to 'kill' Michael by cutting hm open. Rupturing Micheals skin let loose the Demiuge power that Michael had been granted to stop Lucifer's rebellion, basically setting off a Big Bang Lucifer used to make his own Creation, the blast left no impression on Lucifer however.
@darkraiden: umm Creation means 1 universe , Yahveh in Lucifer 69 said there are 3 creations in total including Elaine's which was just lifeless universe which she accidentally created.
Best it could be multiversal since out of nowhere after the end of series, Mike Carey decided to retcon away Lucifer universe into multiverse in Nirvana where i think it could also be a error or referring to multiple dimensions.
Lucy is way smarter than any of them. Heck, he is smarter than all of them together. MM is not precisely brilliant, so his powers are useless for the team, most likely it would end with Lucy using MM to blink the rest of the team out of existence and then he would make Owen commit suicide.
So a legit question and I hope I don't step on any toes with this. But why is Lucifer allowed in battles yet....well....'the others' are not? Even comic incarnations? If I'm missing something, by all means point it out but I'm rather confused.
@darkraiden: You are terribly misinformed. MM never died to Doom? Read up on Pre Retcon Molcule Man..
MM was able to give The Beyonder a fight who is leagues above Lucy. MM also repaired the Multiverse with one finger and shot a blast that could've destroyed several billuon dimensions
@darkraiden: You are terribly misinformed. MM never died to Doom? Read up on Pre Retcon Molcule Man..
MM was able to give The Beyonder a fight who is leagues above Lucy. MM also repaired the Multiverse with one finger and shot a blast that could've destroyed several billuon dimensions
He actually did. He just came back to life. Anyways I know what he's done, i'll still take Lucy.
It's a creation blast, and for you Marvel readers who don't know anything about DC comics. DC don't use the word Omniverse to describe their entire multiverse. They use the word Multiverse because only marvel wants to sound fancy.
He shaped the entire DC multiverse.
Lucifer stomps the hell out of them. He sat down face to face weaken to death of the endless (a DC concept that can rival LT in her own right) and it was made clear she has no claim over him.
Also just a note anyone who read the comic with MM and Beyonder before retcon in a noncanon universe would know that.
1) Every cosmic being including the Lt were just multiversal and since multiversal in Marvel means a few universes ( since you know they go by Megaversal and omniversal as well) that means you can't lump up the Lt in canon with it.
It's a creation blast, and for you Marvel readers who don't know anything about DC comics. DC don't use the word Omniverse to describe their entire multiverse. They use the word Multiverse because only marvel wants to sound fancy.
He shaped the entire DC multiverse.
Lucifer stomps the hell out of them. He sat down face to face weaken to death of the endless (a DC concept that can rival LT in her own right) and it was made clear she has no claim over him.
Also just a note anyone who read the comic with MM and Beyonder before retcon in a noncanon universe would know that.
1) Every cosmic being including the Lt were just multiversal and since multiversal in Marvel means a few universes ( since you know they go by Megaversal and omniversal as well) that means you can't lump up the Lt in canon with it.
Dream of the Endless's tiny portion of power was used to destroy 60billion universes(thats not even his full power) and he is nothing to his sister death. he was only able to die cause his sis allowed it not cause Fates did anything.
and lucy is above her.
lucy tanked creation busting attack with no scratch.
he can bend anything Below God to his will.
awhile Michael can created anything Below God.
one is complete control and one is complete creation, demirgue.
saying LT is that powerful then Lucy means Lucy has more to use his will/control on. and he is damn freakin smart.
I didn't say LT is superior to Lucifer, because first off IIRC Lucifer by the end of the series literally up and left the entire DC multiverse and went into the void right? LT is bound by Marvelverse
And just to correct something I believe at one point Lucifer didn't need Michael to create.
I didn't say LT is superior to Lucifer, because first off IIRC Lucifer by the end of the series literally up and left the entire DC multiverse and went into the void right? LT is bound by Marvelverse
And just to correct something I believe at one point Lucifer didn't need Michael to create.
I didn't say LT is superior to Lucifer, because first off IIRC Lucifer by the end of the series literally up and left the entire DC multiverse and went into the void right? LT is bound by Marvelverse
And just to correct something I believe at one point Lucifer didn't need Michael to create.
I didn't say LT is superior to Lucifer, because first off IIRC Lucifer by the end of the series literally up and left the entire DC multiverse and went into the void right? LT is bound by Marvelverse
And just to correct something I believe at one point Lucifer didn't need Michael to create.
I didn't say LT is superior to Lucifer, because first off IIRC Lucifer by the end of the series literally up and left the entire DC multiverse and went into the void right? LT is bound by Marvelverse
And just to correct something I believe at one point Lucifer didn't need Michael to create.
oh sorry i quoted u by mistake.
Lucifer Stomps here.
No he does not.
Molecule Man solos.
any reasons?
let me guess "he fought beyonder!!"
He was more powerful than Living Tribunal and everyone else in the Marvel universe (Say for TOAA and Beyonder).
I didn't say LT is superior to Lucifer, because first off IIRC Lucifer by the end of the series literally up and left the entire DC multiverse and went into the void right? LT is bound by Marvelverse
And just to correct something I believe at one point Lucifer didn't need Michael to create.
oh sorry i quoted u by mistake.
Lucifer Stomps here.
No he does not.
Molecule Man solos.
any reasons?
let me guess "he fought beyonder!!"
He was more powerful than Living Tribunal and everyone else in the Marvel universe (Say for TOAA and Beyonder).
ABC logic? so he is # 3 is marvel whats that supposed to mean?
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