lucifer morningstar vs Beyonder

Why do people keep on making   "Pre-Ret Beyonder vs."    threads ?  There's no need to wonder about anything:  There is ABSOLUTELY NO ONE that can challenge him (except for beings like TOAA, The Presence, and maybe SOK).  
 
Now, having said that, Pre-Ret Beyonder will blink this f#cking devil out of existence ANY TIME he wants to.  So, let us all stop making PR Beyonder fight threads now, shall we ?  (unless you can name me a being as powerful as those 3 mentioned above).

" Lucifer's father is Yahweh (god himself).  Yahweh is another name for The Precsense.     Lucifer and Michael were the ones who created the DC Universe under the instruction of God.  Lucifer created Beyonder. "

" Lucifer's father is Yahweh (god himself).  Yahweh is another name for The Precsense.     Lucifer and Michael were the ones who created the DC Universe under the instruction of God.  Lucifer created Beyonder. "

" Sorry made a mistake here...  Still, Lucifer and Michael created DC universe under God's orders. "

" im sick of Beyonder. he is on my list of people who need to never appear in the Battle Threads again.  along with. Juggernaut ToAA and Phoenix  they are played out and over-hyped. "

" @Caligula said:

" im sick of Beyonder. he is on my list of people who need to never appear in the Battle Threads again.  along with. Juggernaut ToAA and Phoenix  they are played out and over-hyped. "

Don't forget Storm and Bane. "

" @Ferro Vida said:

" @Caligula said:

" im sick of Beyonder. he is on my list of people who need to never appear in the Battle Threads again.  along with. Juggernaut ToAA and Phoenix  they are played out and over-hyped. "

Don't forget Storm and Bane. "

yes. Storm needs to go to.  and I really don't care about Bane. He is just over-rated, but he is less annoying than the others "

" @Caligula said:

" @Ferro Vida said:

" @Caligula said:

" im sick of Beyonder. he is on my list of people who need to never appear in the Battle Threads again.  along with. Juggernaut ToAA and Phoenix  they are played out and over-hyped. "

Don't forget Storm and Bane. "

yes. Storm needs to go to.  and I really don't care about Bane. He is just over-rated, but he is less annoying than the others "

Did you see the Bane vs. Rhino thread? "

" Why do people keep on making   "Pre-Ret Beyonder vs."    threads ?  There's no need to wonder about anything:  There is ABSOLUTELY NO ONE that can challenge him (except for beings like TOAA, The Presence, and maybe SOK).    Now, having said that, Pre-Ret Beyonder will blink this f#cking devil out of existence ANY TIME he wants to.  So, let us all stop making PR Beyonder fight threads now, shall we ?  (unless you can name me a being as powerful as those 3 mentioned above). "

" @WindCloud: agreed "

" Exactly, Lucifer is a master manipulator, and he has an unbending will with infinite power.  Not to mention that he is omnipotent, haha. "

"
Lucifer WINS. 
 
Lucifer's power is stated to be infinit, and he is virtually omnipotent. 
 
Lucifer is stated to be second ONLY TO THE JEWISH GOD (Yahweh).  So believe it or not,  Lucifer is greater than Living tribunal, greater than Eternity, and far greater than Beyonder.  Lucifer's power is omnipotent, again, and infinit too.  He can virtually get anything just by wishing for it.   
 
Lucifer's power is stated to be equaled only by Michael Demiurge (his brother), and surpassed ONLY BY THE GOD OF THE COVENANT, (Yahweh, Lucifer's Father)...............   Only Lucifer's father (God himself) surpasses Lucifer in power.  Beyonder dies in the blink of an eye.  Trust me, when God's son wants to kill you, ur dead. "

"Exactly, Lucifer is a master manipulator, and he has an unbending will with infinite power.  Not to mention that he is omnipotent, haha. "

" @icecream1991 said:

"Exactly, Lucifer is a master manipulator, and he has an unbending will with infinite power.  Not to mention that he is omnipotent, haha. "

Pre-Retcon Beyonder was also omnipotent "

" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:

" @icecream1991 said:

"Exactly, Lucifer is a master manipulator, and he has an unbending will with infinite power.  Not to mention that he is omnipotent, haha. "

Pre-Retcon Beyonder was also omnipotent "

And another "slight" parameter. Lucifer is not omnipotent. "

Ah, actually Lucifer is omnipotent.......

"Ah, actually Lucifer is omnipotent....... "

Pr beyonder wins

Beyonder is the toughest guy i know, pre retcon right?
 
stop putting threads on God please... he belongs in the church or whichever religious place not in threads

" Actually, Lucifer is VIRTUALLY omnipotent.  Lucifer created the whole damn DC Universe with his brother michael, for gods sake, they are both the sons of god. "

" @chunjacktao said:

" Actually, Lucifer is VIRTUALLY omnipotent.  Lucifer created the whole damn DC Universe with his brother michael, for gods sake, they are both the sons of god. "

Lucifer is not vitually Omnipotent, Michale has the Demiurgos Power with is virtual omnipotence, Lucifer has the will and creativity to use it.  And even together they would be less than PR Beyonder. "

" @Tevnoba said:

" @chunjacktao said:

" Actually, Lucifer is VIRTUALLY omnipotent.  Lucifer created the whole damn DC Universe with his brother michael, for gods sake, they are both the sons of god. "

Lucifer is not vitually Omnipotent, Michale has the Demiurgos Power with is virtual omnipotence, Lucifer has the will and creativity to use it.  And even together they would be less than PR Beyonder. "

You're a huge embarrassing failure.  What you said is absolutely false. "

 
listen up, Lucifer and Michael were stated to be ONLY second to God (Yahweh, or the Prescnse) in the DC universe. 
 
Period, that's a fact, just aaccept it guys comon.

" Lucifer is real,Beyonder isn't.End of discussion.  (i'm omnipotent in my dreams aswell) "

" @Prudence the Wooden Pickle said:

" @Tevnoba said:

" @chunjacktao said:

" Actually, Lucifer is VIRTUALLY omnipotent.  Lucifer created the whole damn DC Universe with his brother michael, for gods sake, they are both the sons of god. "

Lucifer is not vitually Omnipotent, Michale has the Demiurgos Power with is virtual omnipotence, Lucifer has the will and creativity to use it.  And even together they would be less than PR Beyonder. "

You're a huge embarrassing failure.  What you said is absolutely false. "

Only in the darkness of your ignorance and foolishness. "

" uep "

"

 
listen up, Lucifer and Michael were stated to be ONLY second to God (Yahweh, or the Prescnse) in the DC universe. 
 
Period, that's a fact, just aaccept it guys comon.

"

 
And to end this: Lucifer is not omnipotent. Never was, never will be. Michael has the raw power to create something out of nothing, but the disadvantage that he cannot give shape to his creations. Lucifer can shape everything, from anything, but cannot create something  out of nothing. That was the reason Lucifer needed Michael to unleash the demiurgic energy from within him in order to create a whole new Universe of his own in the Void, from the letter of passage the Presence granted him. He manipulated things, in order for that to happen - because he couldn't do it on his own. Make no mistake, Lucifer is one of the most powerful characters in the DC/Vertigo Universe. But he isn't omnipotent. He's as close as one who isn't actually God could hope to be, but that's still not close enough.

Lucifers best chance if hes fighting PR Beyonder is to trick him [lets face it, he was a moron]  Because he isnt going to be able to overpower him...

"Lucifer's father is Yahweh (god himself).  Yahweh is another name for The Precsense.     Lucifer and Michael were the ones who created the DC Universe under the instruction of God.  Lucifer created Beyonder. "

but......... lucifer represents the willpower of God.  So couldn't he just will beyonder outta existence??