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#1 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9183 posts) - - Show Bio

Who wins?

#2 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer. 

#3 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio
@CosmicSpiral said:
" Lucifer.  "
Third in the order of God
#4 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nerx said:
" @CosmicSpiral said:
" Lucifer.  "
Third in the order of God "
You agreeing with me?
#5 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9183 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nerx said:
" @CosmicSpiral said:
" Lucifer.  "
Third in the order of God "
Well it takes him and his brother to create a Multi-verse together. 
#6 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio
@CosmicSpiral: Yep
#7 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nerx: :)
#8 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio
@OmegaDynasty: Eggface loses to the guy who death has no claim on , plus Lucy can walk back from inexistence [I saw that on a panel]
#9 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9183 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nerx said:
" @OmegaDynasty: Eggface loses to the guy who death has no claim on , plus Lucy can walk back from inexistence [I saw that on a panel] "
Didn't Fernis possess Lucifer? Even though Lucy killed Fernis. Lucifer= Gallagher  Fernise's head= Melon  Just saying he does have some low showings.
#10 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio
@OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit
#11 Edited by OmegaDynasty (9183 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nerx said:

" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "  

People at their levels shouldn't be screwing up so much. lol  
So could Lucifer win even without his wings he got back from the Japanese gods?
#12 Posted by Neon_Nemesis (2170 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nerx said:
" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "
I don't really think AM got retconned, he was destroyed and the version of him during the SCW wasn't at full power.
As far as Prime throwing him across the universe, that was after taking the full brunt of a galaxy destroying attack, nothing to be ashamed of
#13 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio
@OmegaDynasty said:
" @Nerx said:

" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "  

People at their levels shouldn't be screwing up so much. lol  So could Lucifer win even without his wings he got back from the Japanese gods? "
Yes, it would just be harder. 
#14 Posted by jacobyLIVE (1828 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer, not that anyone has said otherwise, lol

#15 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio
@Neon_Nemesis said:
" @Nerx said:
" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "
I don't really think AM got retconned, he was destroyed and the version of him during the SCW wasn't at full power. As far as Prime throwing him across the universe, that was after taking the full brunt of a galaxy destroying attack, nothing to be ashamed of "
It is sad though what they did to such a strong villain
#16 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9183 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nerx said:
" @Neon_Nemesis said:
" @Nerx said:
" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "
I don't really think AM got retconned, he was destroyed and the version of him during the SCW wasn't at full power. As far as Prime throwing him across the universe, that was after taking the full brunt of a galaxy destroying attack, nothing to be ashamed of "
It is sad though what they did to such a strong villain "
Retconned= Spayed/neutered 
#17 Posted by Assman (1634 posts) - - Show Bio
@OmegaDynasty said:
" @Nerx said:
" @CosmicSpiral said:
" Lucifer.  "
Third in the order of God "
Well it takes him and his brother to create a Multi-verse together.  "

No, it doesn't.  They can create more than just a simple multiverse.  Lucifer, without many issues.
#18 Posted by FLCL1 (9581 posts) - - Show Bio
@OmegaDynasty said:
" @Nerx said:
" @Neon_Nemesis said:
" @Nerx said:
" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "
I don't really think AM got retconned, he was destroyed and the version of him during the SCW wasn't at full power. As far as Prime throwing him across the universe, that was after taking the full brunt of a galaxy destroying attack, nothing to be ashamed of "
It is sad though what they did to such a strong villain "
Retconned= Spayed/neutered  "
XD
#19 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9183 posts) - - Show Bio
@Assman said:
" @OmegaDynasty said:
" @Nerx said:
" @CosmicSpiral said:
" Lucifer.  "
Third in the order of God "
Well it takes him and his brother to create a Multi-verse together.  "
No, it doesn't.  They can create more than just a simple multiverse.  Lucifer, without many issues. "

Lucifer telling Mazikeen that he didn't create a multi-verse with his brothers help to just become a king, but God himself. Of course I am talking about Lucifer prior to this happening.
#20 Posted by Neon_Nemesis (2170 posts) - - Show Bio
@OmegaDynasty said:
" @Assman said:
" @OmegaDynasty said:
" @Nerx said:
" @CosmicSpiral said:
" Lucifer.  "
Third in the order of God "
Well it takes him and his brother to create a Multi-verse together.  "
No, it doesn't.  They can create more than just a simple multiverse.  Lucifer, without many issues. "

Lucifer telling Mazikeen that he didn't create a multi-verse with his brothers help to just become a king, but God himself. Of course I am talking about Lucifer prior to this happening. "
That isn't the limit of his power though
#21 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9183 posts) - - Show Bio
@Neon_Nemesis said:
" @OmegaDynasty said:
" @Assman said:
" @OmegaDynasty said:
" @Nerx said:
" @CosmicSpiral said:
" Lucifer.  "
Third in the order of God "
Well it takes him and his brother to create a Multi-verse together.  "
No, it doesn't.  They can create more than just a simple multiverse.  Lucifer, without many issues. "

Lucifer telling Mazikeen that he didn't create a multi-verse with his brothers help to just become a king, but God himself. Of course I am talking about Lucifer prior to this happening. "
That isn't the limit of his power though "
Well I know about his intellect, but how can he have more power outside of his own Multi-verse, when he needs help from his brother? The Presence made him as the Will and Michael as the Power, two sides of the same coin. Where is it shown that he has more power then this?
#22 Edited by Neon_Nemesis (2170 posts) - - Show Bio
@OmegaDynasty said:

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" @OmegaDynasty said:
" @Assman said:
" @OmegaDynasty said:
" @Nerx said:
" @CosmicSpiral said:
" Lucifer.  "
Third in the order of God "
Well it takes him and his brother to create a Multi-verse together.  "
No, it doesn't.  They can create more than just a simple multiverse.  Lucifer, without many issues. "

Lucifer telling Mazikeen that he didn't create a multi-verse with his brothers help to just become a king, but God himself. Of course I am talking about Lucifer prior to this happening. "
That isn't the limit of his power though "
Well I know about his intellect, but how can he have more power outside of his own Multi-verse, when he needs help from his brother? The Presence made him as the Will and Michael as the Power, two sides of the same coin. Where is it shown that he has more power then this? "
In your scan it did say he didn't want to create another multiverse elsewhere, Lucifer and Michael are suppose to be 2 sides of The Presence, who should be able to create as many multiverses as he wants.
#23 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9183 posts) - - Show Bio
@Neon_Nemesis said:
" @OmegaDynasty said:

" @Neon_Nemesis said:

" @OmegaDynasty said:
" @Assman said:
" @OmegaDynasty said:
" @Nerx said:
" @CosmicSpiral said:
" Lucifer.  "
Third in the order of God "
Well it takes him and his brother to create a Multi-verse together.  "
No, it doesn't.  They can create more than just a simple multiverse.  Lucifer, without many issues. "

Lucifer telling Mazikeen that he didn't create a multi-verse with his brothers help to just become a king, but God himself. Of course I am talking about Lucifer prior to this happening. "
That isn't the limit of his power though "
Well I know about his intellect, but how can he have more power outside of his own Multi-verse, when he needs help from his brother? The Presence made him as the Will and Michael as the Power, two sides of the same coin. Where is it shown that he has more power then this? "
In your scan it did say he didn't want to create another multiverse elsewhere, Lucifer and Michael are suppose to be 2 sides of The Presence, who should be able to create as many multiverses as he wants. "
No, he was stating that he didn't want to be a " King" of hell or any dimension. Why would he when he could be God. Thie multiverse they're both in at the moment was created when Lucifer took his brother out of the current one and used his Demiurgic powers and his own.
#24 Posted by OblivionKnight (3332 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer easily.
#25 Posted by NightFang (9640 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer wins this fight, unless God step's in or something.

#26 Posted by OblivionKnight (3332 posts) - - Show Bio

The Presensce would not try and stop Lucifer IMHO.
#27 Posted by lord_oraculous016 (9282 posts) - - Show Bio

gotta go with Morningstar here..
#28 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio
@OmegaDynasty said:
" @Nerx said:
" @Neon_Nemesis said:
" @Nerx said:
" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "
I don't really think AM got retconned, he was destroyed and the version of him during the SCW wasn't at full power. As far as Prime throwing him across the universe, that was after taking the full brunt of a galaxy destroying attack, nothing to be ashamed of "
It is sad though what they did to such a strong villain "
Retconned= Spayed/neutered  "
Somehow on that match he is not that big, only a half body above the water
#29 Posted by Goenitz (2064 posts) - - Show Bio

Morningstar

#30 Posted by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio

am would become lucy's maid here

#31 Posted by MKF30 (11635 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer

#32 Posted by logy5000 (5525 posts) - - Show Bio

@capall said:

am would become lucy's maid here

That's a bit of an exaggeration, but Lucifer would win.

#33 Posted by Bo88gdan (4374 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer MOrningstar Ftw

#34 Posted by girugamesh (427 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer>>COIE Anti-Monitor>Unbound Spectre.

Lucifer wins with little difficulty.

#35 Posted by Spartan101 (2122 posts) - - Show Bio

old nick takes this no probs

#36 Posted by Sethlol (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer blinks AM out of existence.

#37 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2622 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer wins, has the infinite will of god AM has no way of putting him down permanently .

#38 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

Luci wins this

#39 Edited by logy5000 (5525 posts) - - Show Bio

Am I always alone in this belief? Why can't AM at least give him a good fight?

Anti-Monitor survived both the destruction & recreation of the multiverse almost at the exact same time. He himself can destroy a multiverse.

Unless any of you can show me anything Lucifer has done that's above that, then you can't say that he would win easily.

#40 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - - Show Bio

LM

#41 Posted by Deadgod (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer

#42 Posted by baron2011 (1151 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

Am I always alone in this belief? Why can't AM at least give him a good fight?

Anti-Monitor survived both the destruction & recreation of the multiverse almost at the exact same time. He himself can destroy a multiverse.

Unless any of you can show me anything Lucifer has done that's above that, then you can't say that he would win easily.

lucifer did the same

#43 Posted by NeonGameWave (7205 posts) - - Show Bio

LM.

#44 Posted by logy5000 (5525 posts) - - Show Bio

@baron2011: Well then that means their durability is about the same.

It irritates me how people continue to just say: "LM, Lucifer, or Lucifer easily." And completely ignore the fact that he doesn't have the feats to put him above AM.

Sure, he SHOULD win, but there's no evidence that he could.

#45 Posted by Reactor (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

Most high-end cosmic level characters have relatively few or low-ended showings because they are chiefly used as plot devices, and thus are not exposed or developed to the extent as most characters. For example, TOAA and the Presence have the three Os (omnipotent, omniscient, onmipresent), but very few showings to prove it.

#46 Posted by wkar (190 posts) - - Show Bio

M. Lucifer FTW

#47 Edited by JackKnight (2969 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer Morningstar but I don't think he would win 10/10 nabby a 9/10.

#48 Posted by rolldestroyer (3508 posts) - - Show Bio

lucifer

#49 Edited by Scoop316 (156 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer would win, with a bit of effort. COIE Anti-Monitor is no slouch. That being said he probably wouldn't have to use his raw power, Monty was pretty one-dimensional in his thinking, I think Lucy could put his cunning to good use here.

#50 Edited by Baron_von_Santa (3654 posts) - - Show Bio

lucifer doesn't need cunning to kill him, endless reality warping is enough.or limitless willpower