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Lucifer and Michael vs COIE Anti-Monitor and Rama Kushna
I did a battle with Lucifer and COIE Anti-Monitor, and Lucifer came out rather easily. Not sure about the others though, although the brothers will most likely stomp.
" @FinalStar86 said:" Stalemate between team 1 and Rama Kushna "If it was Lucifer and Michael individually, would Rama win or would it be 2 separate stalemates? "
Not quite sure how they would lose, I mean death has no claim on them and they are the sons of the Presence which both represent his Will & Power.
" @Sexy Merc said:Yes that's true, I just wasn't sure what Rama was quite capable of so that's why I made it." @FinalStar86 said:Not quite sure how they would lose, I mean death has no claim on them and they are the sons of the Presence which both represent his Will & Power. "" Stalemate between team 1 and Rama Kushna "If it was Lucifer and Michael individually, would Rama win or would it be 2 separate stalemates? "
" @OmegaDynasty said:" @Sexy Merc said:Yes that's true, I just wasn't sure what Rama was quite capable of so that's why I made it. "" @FinalStar86 said:Not quite sure how they would lose, I mean death has no claim on them and they are the sons of the Presence which both represent his Will & Power. "" Stalemate between team 1 and Rama Kushna "If it was Lucifer and Michael individually, would Rama win or would it be 2 separate stalemates? "
Confuses me too, looked at the non-canon DC heirarchy and it said Rama Kushna was higher then them.
" @Sexy Merc said:Do you have a link?" @OmegaDynasty said:Confuses me too, looked at the non-canon DC heirarchy and it said Rama Kushna was higher then them. "" @Sexy Merc said:Yes that's true, I just wasn't sure what Rama was quite capable of so that's why I made it. "" @FinalStar86 said:Not quite sure how they would lose, I mean death has no claim on them and they are the sons of the Presence which both represent his Will & Power. "" Stalemate between team 1 and Rama Kushna "If it was Lucifer and Michael individually, would Rama win or would it be 2 separate stalemates? "
" @OmegaDynasty said:" @Sexy Merc said:Do you have a link? "" @OmegaDynasty said:Confuses me too, looked at the non-canon DC heirarchy and it said Rama Kushna was higher then them. "" @Sexy Merc said:Yes that's true, I just wasn't sure what Rama was quite capable of so that's why I made it. "" @FinalStar86 said:Not quite sure how they would lose, I mean death has no claim on them and they are the sons of the Presence which both represent his Will & Power. "" Stalemate between team 1 and Rama Kushna "If it was Lucifer and Michael individually, would Rama win or would it be 2 separate stalemates? "
http://www.comicvine.com/dc-power-rankings/12-42222/
" @King Saturn said:oh" so its the Power of God versus God incarnate... brilliant ":P, I had no idea what Rama was capable of so yeah... "
PS; That picture of AM is Sinestro Corps version :P
Not to sound like an idiot but the What is Rama Kushna aside from the Patron of Deadman and the being worshipped by the Monks of Namda Pardat? In the Batman/Deadman Crossover "Death and Glory", great story by the way. They say she's God. But that story doesn't sound like Canon because the Presence is the Highest Being in DC and the creator of everything. I'm asking because Micheal and Lucifer together are the combined might of God so I'm really ignorant as to what Rama brings to the table.
Also I might start a thread on this but has anyone noticed how the best Vertigo stories seem to clash with the main DC universe as to how things work? I mean a lot of them seem to happen in the same universe but those that do are often contradictory to main DC universe canon. Sometimes I think the writers and managers at DC should just flat out state that Vertigo stories are self-contained in their own universes and end some of the confusion.
" Not sure how the battle would turn out if the brothers took Rama on their own. Individually, I see them losing. COIEAM isn't much of a contender here.You know what? Yeah that's what I though. Lol, I wanted Rama and Anti-Monitor to be on the same line like the brothers but the COIE stuff had bigger pictures and I didn't like them either.
PS; That picture of AM is Sinestro Corps version :P "
As a general rule of thumb, Michael & Lucifer cannot be defeated by any being less powerful than the Presence, which is God of the DC universe.
"As a general rule of thumb, Michael & Lucifer cannot be defeated by any being less powerful than the Presence, which is God of the DC universe. "
So you're saying together they could take PR Beyonder? But not by themselves.
@EmperorVulcan:
No they can not!
Together? Yes they could.
On topic, I should state that Lucifer could solo. He, alongside with his brother, created her. Using the power of the Lightbringer, he can completely destroy her if he needs to.
That being said, Michael can also solo. His power is the building block for everything that has ever been made in DC and Vertigo.
Either of team 1 solo.
Either of team 1 solo.
rama solo
tf no she doesn't its the opposite.
rama solo
tf no she doesn't its the opposite.
no satan/mike are still featless and impressive and their actual feats are still completely unimpressive, at least the other has scaling
rama solo
tf no she doesn't its the opposite.
no satan/mike are still featless and impressive and their actual feats are still completely unimpressive, at least the other has scaling
U serious bro.
They have more feats than Rama and COIE Anti-Monitor, and like u said Scaling plays a Key and those two are def more powerful.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/most-powerful-michael-demiurgos-2092163/
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/most-powerful-lucifer-morningstar-2090080/
Im confused why u call them featless, when Lucifer has more impressive feat and more in general than t2 combined.
rama solo
tf no she doesn't its the opposite.
no satan/mike are still featless and impressive and their actual feats are still completely unimpressive, at least the other has scaling
U serious bro.
They have more feats than Rama and COIE Anti-Monitor, and like u said Scaling plays a Key and those two are def more powerful.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/most-powerful-michael-demiurgos-2092163/
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/most-powerful-lucifer-morningstar-2090080/
I
m confused why u call them featless, when Lucifer has more impressive feat and more in general than t2 combined.
no i just saw them so many times that they're basic as hell
of course they win i just rather have rama win but i mean i was pretty sure she was above city level which is above lucifer holding back heavy, not sure bout mike though
rama solo
tf no she doesn't its the opposite.
no satan/mike are still featless and impressive and their actual feats are still completely unimpressive, at least the other has scaling
U serious bro.
They have more feats than Rama and COIE Anti-Monitor, and like u said Scaling plays a Key and those two are def more powerful.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/most-powerful-michael-demiurgos-2092163/
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/most-powerful-lucifer-morningstar-2090080/
I
m confused why u call them featless, when Lucifer has more impressive feat and more in general than t2 combined.
no i just saw them so many times that they're basic as hell
of course they win i just rather have rama win but i mean i was pretty sure she was above city level which is above lucifer holding back heavy, not sure bout mike though
Lucifer is beyond Multiversal in power, Outerversal(if u like using those type of terms), Michael is his equal well beyond Multiversal, and Outerversal as well. SO in all honestly they could literally blink and destroy t2. Only The Presence, Source, The Levithan, WF mxy, Overmonitor beings on that lvl can defeat them.
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