Low street team vs Mid street team

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Low street team:

  • Daredevil
  • Bane
  • Deadshot
  • Ult. Hawkeye
  • Punisher
  • Elektra
  • Bullseye
  • Captain America
  • Shag-chi
  • Bucky

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Mid-street team:

  • Deathstroke
  • Deadpool
  • Kraven
  • Batman w/insider suit
  • Sabertooth
  • Luthor Strode

Rules:

  • Morals off.
  • Everyone has standard gear.
  • Assume Batman has all gear he normally has.
  • Pre-new 52 DC characters.
  • Current Marvel characters except captain america who still has SSS.
  • Win by death/KO/incap

Who wins?

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#2 juiceboks  Moderator

Team 2. Sabretooth's durability and damage soak are way too much for the team to handle, not to mention he physically outclasses everyone on team 1. He'd be the MVP while everyone else on his team would likely take a majority over everyone on the other team. And of course Slade excels against teams..team 2 has too much stacked in their favor.

Come to think of it..a non-jobbing Victor is high-tier street level and Slade should be too.

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@juiceboks:

Come to think of it..a non-jobbing Victor is high-tier street level and Slade should be too.

IDK about Victor, but Slade kind of lacks the nessecary physicals or gear to be high street IMO.

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#4  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

@juiceboks:

Come to think of it..a non-jobbing Victor is high-tier street level and Slade should be too.

IDK about Victor, but Slade kind of lacks the nessecary physicals or gear to be high street IMO.

Sabretooth is a 10-tonner who's faster and has a better healing factor than Wolverine. His damage soak is absolutely insane most of the time..

As for Slade..he may not be on Victor's level but he's at LEAST as strong as Wolverine and is just as skilled when it comes to fighting teams if not moreso. His gear while not on BP's level is still formidable and he knows how to use all of it with deadly efficiency.

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#5  Edited By GraniteSoldier

I'd say Sabertooth is high street, and Deathstroke arguably is as well. You could probably argue Cap is mid with many of his feats. I'm digressing though.

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#6  Edited By Sy8000

@juiceboks:

Sabretooth is a 10-tonner who's faster and has a better healing factor than Wolverine. His damage soak is absolutely insane most of the time..

Wait seriously? Creeds a 10-tonner? Damn he really should be high street then.

As for Slade..he may not be on Victor's level but he's at LEAST as strong as Wolverine and is just as skilled when it comes to fighting teams if not moreso. His gear while not on BP's level is still formidable and he knows how to use all of it with deadly efficiency.

Slade's only really a 1.5 tonner at best as opposed to Logna being a 2 tonner. His gear only really gets him so far and he doesn't really have the output to beat several high street levelers who have good durability(tarantula, Wolverine, Ult. Goblin). He's honestly not as skilled as most top level fighters so he doesn't have many good ways of compensating for his underwhelming physicals.

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Deadpool is mid street?Or whatever these terms mean...

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#8  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

@highaccuser Yea. He broke through a shield designed by Forge to stop a rampaging elephant.

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As for Slade..feat for feat of strength they're more or less the same. Obviously neither is really known for that physical stat..but it's present. Black Tarantula and Ult. Goblin should be low Mid tier as they're both stronger than Spider-Man and Norman has blown up tanks with his fireblasts. Very few street levelers have the damage output to take down Wolverine. In fact..only one's with gear designed to counter him do like Black Panther and Agent Zero. He's as skilled as them if not moreso when it comes to fighting teams and coming up with strategies that play against them on the fly. His feats against multiple iterations of the Teen Titans have shown us this time and time again.

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Everyone on team 1 is peak-human, minus Bane...and everyone on team 2 is meta-human, unless for Batman, who has the insider-suit...team 1 has a slight edge in skill, but team 2 member's are no slouch's themselves...plus, they have Batman with them, and this battle being morals off, the metas on team 2 "are free to go crazy".

Team 2 stomps.

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Bane, Cap, Daredevil and Punisher, should be mid-street.

Deadpool, Deathstroke, and Sabertooth, should be high-street.

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@juiceboks:

As for Slade..feat for feat of strength they're more or less the same. Obviously neither is really known for that physical stat..but it's present. Black Tarantula and Ult. Goblin should be low Mid tier as they're both stronger than Spider-Man and Norman has blown up tanks with his fireblasts. Very few street levelers have the damage output to take down Wolverine. In fact..only one's with gear designed to counter him do like Black Panther and Agent Zero. He's as skilled as them if not moreso when it comes to fighting teams and coming up with strategies that play against them on the fly. His feats against multiple iterations of the Teen Titans have shown us this time and time again.

I have a hard time seeing how Slade is as strong as Wolverine when he's had trouble putting down peak humans like Batman and Bronze tiger. BT only really had durability and strength going for him and ult. Goblin isn't really any stronger than 616 Peter, but he is a lot more durable. At least some street levelers who don't have the output to bring down Logan have gear to incap him. The teen titans are good and all, but they aren't very skilled and don't have as good combat speed as some street levelers. If it were composite Slade I'd agree with you, but pre-new 52 Slade just doesn't have impressive physicals.

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#13  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

@juiceboks:

As for Slade..feat for feat of strength they're more or less the same. Obviously neither is really known for that physical stat..but it's present. Black Tarantula and Ult. Goblin should be low Mid tier as they're both stronger than Spider-Man and Norman has blown up tanks with his fireblasts. Very few street levelers have the damage output to take down Wolverine. In fact..only one's with gear designed to counter him do like Black Panther and Agent Zero. He's as skilled as them if not moreso when it comes to fighting teams and coming up with strategies that play against them on the fly. His feats against multiple iterations of the Teen Titans have shown us this time and time again.

I have a hard time seeing how Slade is as strong as Wolverine when he's had trouble putting down peak humans like Batman and Bronze tiger. BT only really had durability and strength going for him and ult. Goblin isn't really any stronger than 616 Peter, but he is a lot more durable. At least some street levelers who don't have the output to bring down Logan have gear to incap him. The teen titans are good and all, but they aren't very skilled and don't have as good combat speed as some street levelers. If it were composite Slade I'd agree with you, but pre-new 52 Slade just doesn't have impressive physicals.

Slade having trouble beating down Batman isn't a knock on his strength, as his strength advantage isn't that much greater than Bruce's and his suit gives him greater durability against blunt force. James would have an easier time knocking out Batman with fisticuffs but he has the advantage of sporting an indestructible skeleton to increase his striking power. If Wolverine has a strength advantage, it's basically negligible. Black Tarantula had more than strength and durability. Peter remarked that he was faster than him(while he certainly could be exaggerating, BT did manage to tag him a decent amount in their fights). And Carlos has a healing factor to boot. Honestly anybody that can stomp Spider-Man who himself is Mid-tier..should be Mid-tier. Norman should be stronger than Peter, for one I've never seen Spider-Man performs leaps like this..

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Any schmuck with a powerful enough magnetic device can incap Wolverine fairly easily..hell Mr. Freeze could do it if he tagged him. That doesn't make them high-street level. Depending on which Titans you're referring to, a lot of them are fairly skilled. Nightwing, Ravager, Beast Boy, Starfire, Wonder Girl, and Cyborg all know how to use their abilities effectively and work as a team but Slade has shown to be their superior more than once. No knock on them..he's just that good at fighting teams. This was also shown when he stomped Black Canary and Green Arrow..two people who would classify as mid-tier based on their abilities and gear.

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#14  Edited By BoringPerson

Morals off Insider Suit seems pretty powerful. Honestly, only Daredevil and maybe Shang-Chi would be able to tell Bruce was even there if he were stealthing around, no?