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I have decided that it is time for another tournament.

This will be for the lower high tier characters. The rules are simple: pick a technician, a brawler, and a wild card and duke it out with the other players.

No prep will be involved, and it's an all out fight.

The Technician

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This character is the resident genius of your team. He will protect your team against foreign tech, while utilizing his own technology in an offensive manner.

Examples include Iron Man [Bleeding Edge], Blue Beetle III, and Mister Terrific.

Technician Rules

As the name suggests, your technician must be a tech-based character. That's really the only limit.

Technician Limits

  • The Technician cannot be willing and able to take out an inhabited planet for the sole purpose of destroying an enemy.
  • The Technician cannot have machinery above Brainiac or Ultron's tech.
  • No Mirror Master, Pied Piper, Reed Richards, or Dr. Doom.
  • The Technician cannot be able to survive one minute, not moving, with a blood-lusted, morals off Superman.
  • The Technician may not have any of the following: soul attacks, telefrag, power mimicry or absorption, or duplication.
  • The Technician may not be faster than Mach 100 in Combat Speed
  • Nerfing will be considered. Ask me.

The Brawler

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This is the physical character of your team. They enjoy hitting things, and will keep doing so until the opponent is down! In another words, a brick.

Examples include Superboy, Nova [Sam Alexander], Red Hulk, and Donna Troy.

Brawler Rules

The Brawler must be a physical character in that they generally use their fists and physical attacks. They are allowed to have ONE other power that does not involve physicals (for example, you could use Superboy and telekinesis).

Brawler Limits

  • The Brawler may not be allowed to survive five minutes standing still with a bloodlusted, morals off Superman.
  • No Flash or Reverse Flash.
  • The character must be below Wonder Woman level overall.
  • The Brawler may not be willing and able to bust an inhabited planet for the sole purpose of defeating an enemy.
  • The Brawler may not possess any of the following abilities: intangibility, soul attacks, transmutation, power mimicry or absorption, duplication, or clayform.
  • Nerfing will be considered. Ask me.

The Wild Card

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This is the character who will bring the versatility to your team. He will protect your team from the more funky attacks like telepathy and magic.

Examples include Vision, Firestorm [no organic transmutation], Miss Martian, and God Cable.

Wild Card Rules

There are none! I would suggest that you choose a versatile character for this slot, but you can really choose anyone so as long as they're not a brawler.

Wild Card Limitations

  • Same physical limitations as a brawler.
  • The following powers are prohibited for Wild Cards: soul attacks, duplication, organic transmutation, and magic.
  • The Wild Card cannot be able to solo Captain Atom without telepathy.
  • Telepathy is limited to the level of the Martian Manhunter.
  • The Wild Card's energy projection cannot level a continent.

Other Rules

  1. No Time Manipulation
  2. No Reality Warping
  3. No unavoidable attacks
  4. No instant-kill attacks

Perks

What would a tournament be without perks?!?! Not a good one, that's for sure.

Anyway, each perk will be very basic. You can only have one.

  • I DC You: If your characters are all from DC, they will have perfect teamwork and basic knowledge on the enemy.
  • Marvelous: If all of your characters are from Marvel, your will lose ALL their morals and self-restraint.
  • No More Mainstream: If all of your characters are from comics that are not DC or Marvel [Wildstorm counts as DC], then they get five minutes of preparation time, blood-lust on (but still in character), and basic knowledge of the opponents' power sets.
  • Do I Know You?: If none of your characters have ever heard of each other before, then they will get full knowledge of the enemy.
  • Other: If all of your characters are from media sources outside of comics, then they will be immune to one specific type of power, of your choice (for example telepathy, telekinesis etc).

Miscellaneous

  • Looking for sixteen people who will ACTUALLY POST. If you can't post within a week or so, DON'T SIGN UP.
  • I will participate.
  • I have the right to reject any character that I deem unqualified for the tourney.
  • Maximum three posts (not including introductions, if you choose to make them).
  • Be polite and respectful. Friendly banter is fine.
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@darkraiden: damn, that was quick.

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DarkRaiden

  • Technician: Steel
  • Brawler: Holocaust
  • Wild Card: Bedlam

TNBB

  • Technician: Jaime Reyes
  • Brawler: Donna Troy
  • Wild Card: Firestorm [no organic transmutation]
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@darkraiden: hold up, isn't Bedlam a better telepath than Professor X? That would make her above MMH level

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@thenewbluebeetle007: Looks awesome. Save me a spot and reserve me Martian Manhunter as my wild card (if he's too powerful as a wild card he can be my brawler I suppose)

And I'm gonna have to drop out of your other tournament. You can give PrecrisisBardock the win. Sorry, I hate to be like that, but with all my RL stuff during that match and CV eating my post I rage quit xD.

But my RL stuff is taken care of so it won't be an issue for this tournament

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@chimeroid: oh no, Thor ain't a low high tier. He's certainly too much for this tournament. I just used the first person that popped into my head, and he was it :)

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@chimeroid: he is low high tier considering Thanos and Despero are the other high tier characters.

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I haven't been in a tournament for a little while and this looks like fun. Same me a spot with composite Iron Man please. I'll choose a team later when I get home in a couple of hours.

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#12  Edited By those_eyes

Thinking about it.

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@thenewbluebeetle007: awesome thanks. And when it says "wild card can't be physically stronger than brawler" does that mean speed as well?

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Technician: Dr. Bruce Banner (Is preparation allowed?)

Brawler: New-52 Superman

Wild Card: Savior Cable

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@speedster101: oops , just realized that MMH has physicals above Wonder Woman. So he's actually too much for the tournament. Sorry mate :/

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#19  Edited By Speedster101

@thenewbluebeetle007: Thor isn't?... Or was his picture simply there for example?

Oh well that's fine. So then Superman^ (above) wouldn't be allowed either correct?

But going back to my question when you use "stats" does that mean speed as well?

EDIT: I've decided on Rulk as my brawler, Stable Sentry as my wild card (in physical stats he shouldn't be above Wonder Woman) and I'm thinking on my technician

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Technician: Dr. Bruce Banner (Is preparation allowed?)

Brawler: New-52 Superman

Wild Card: Savior Cable

New 52 Superman has physicals below Pre-2 Wonder Woman??? If he does I'll take your word for it but it seems kinda doubtful :/ you can use Hulk though

No prep mate, sorry.

Savior Cable is good.

@joewell said:

@thenewbluebeetle007: How well do The teams know each other?

They have basic knowledge of each other, but no teamwork. They will know that they must work together to fight an enemy.

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@thenewbluebeetle007: Thor isn't?... Or was his picture simply there for example?

Oh well that's fine. So then Superman^ (above) wouldn't be allowed either correct?

But going back to my question when you use "stats" does that mean speed as well?

just for example. I don't think New 52 Superman is below Pre-52 Wonder Woman, but I trust GR's word.

Yes, stats means speed as well.

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@thenewbluebeetle007: Oh ok so since stats includes speed then If I pick Rulk as my brawler then I can't use anyone faster than him for my wild card? Hm... This is tricky...

And I guess it's debatable but I've seen most people put N52 superman on par with his older counter part.

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@thenewbluebeetle007: Didn't see the limitation for Wonder Woman physicals. Let me re-think for a moment.

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@speedster101: oops, I meant Abrawler, not your brawler. Let me edit that out.

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Technician: Babidi

Brawler: Goku (Beginning of Namek Saga, After getting out of hospital.)

Wild Card: (TBA)

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@chimeroid: he is low high tier considering Thanos and Despero are the other high tier characters.

I believe a lot of people here would say Thor stomps Despero.

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@speedster101 said:

@chimeroid: he is low high tier considering Thanos and Despero are the other high tier characters.

I believe a lot of people here would say Thor stomps Despero.

A lot of people obviously know nothing of Despero.

Technician: Babidi

Brawler: Goku (Beginning of Namek Saga, After getting out of hospital.)

Wild Card: (TBA)

With Dragon Ball Z, no power scaling will be allowed. Cool?

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@speedster101: Unstable Sentry and Rulk should be good. Emphasis on unstable.

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@thenewbluebeetle007: If you mean I can't go "Well A Zenkai boost is approximately a 15x multiplier..." then cool.

But if you mean "Well since Goku never caught bullets, he can't, even though Master Roshi did." then I don't see the logic.

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@precrisisbardock: i mean that saying "oh Super Saiyan 3 Goku is 100x more powerful than Super Saiyan 2 Goku who is 10x more powerful than base Goku who can bust planets so Goku can bust 1000 planets" is not allowed.

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#32  Edited By Chimeroid

@chimeroid said:
@speedster101 said:

@chimeroid: he is low high tier considering Thanos and Despero are the other high tier characters.

I believe a lot of people here would say Thor stomps Despero.

A lot of people obviously know nothing of Despero.

In the Despero vs Thor thread (tp off) a lot of people (even some of relatively respected viners) actually said he wins, i checked. Killemall, TheGrayGhost, Ethereal_Dreams and more. Anyhow, i know Despero wins, but i was just sayin'

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@thenewbluebeetle007: Meh... But then he loses a majority of stuffs. Leave it like that for now but I may change. Thanks though :)

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@thenewbluebeetle007:

Ultimate Reed (never said anything about Ultimate Reed) for Tech.

Ultimate God Thor for Brawler.

Ultimate Phoenix Jean for Wild Card.

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#35  Edited By Veitha

Edit: I changed my mind

Technician Engineer

Brawler Apollo

Wildcard The Doctor

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@chimeroid: Despero, it may have been N52 which is dramatically less powerful.

PRE52 Despero manhandled Superman, Wonder Woman, shazam, flash, GL, captain atom etc. all at once, no telepathy

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@precrisisbardock: i mean that saying "oh Super Saiyan 3 Goku is 100x more powerful than Super Saiyan 2 Goku who is 10x more powerful than base Goku who can bust planets so Goku can bust 1000 planets" is not allowed.

Well considering there are no Super Saiyans here, that shouldn't be a problem.

But a question. Kaiokenx2, kaiokenx3 etc. Work by multiplying Strength/Speed/Durability by the specified number, that's just how it's written. So, that would be fine correct? (Ex: ...can move 100 mph regularly so after using Kaioken x 4 they can move at 400 mph for that time frame.)

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#38  Edited By Speedster101

@precrisisbardock: But Kaioken doesn't specifiy WHAT is being multiplied it's just "power" this is why I hate power increments being used in this way in DBZ.

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Teams as of Post 37

@darkraiden:

  • Steel
  • Holocaust
  • TBA [Bedlam's TP is too much]

@ghostravage:

  • TBA
  • TBA
  • Savior Cable

@speedster101:

  • TBA
  • Rulk
  • TBA [thought over it, Sentry is too much]

@precrisisbardock:

  • Babidi
  • Goku [start of Namek saga]
  • TBA

@veitha:

  • Danger
  • Wonder Man
  • TBA [Quasar is too much]

@sirfizzwhizz:

  • Ultimate Reed Richards
  • Ultimate God Thor
  • TBA [Ultimate Phoenix is too much, normal Jean should be fine w/o Phoenix Force]

TNBB

  • Blue Beetle
  • Donna Troy
  • Firestorm
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@precrisisbardock: But Kaioken doesn't specifiy WHAT is being multiplied it's just "power" this is why I hate power increments being used in this way in DBZ. It doesn't work. I could prove why This logic is faulty if you'd like.

"Oh... it's the Kaioken attack. It's like a massive upsurge of energy. Everything is heightened: power, speed, even hearing and vision improve dramatically. You sort of become a super-self. But it can only be sustained for a short time, so you have to get the job done quickly."

It's not using power levels, it's just how the attack works.

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@thenewbluebeetle007: change it all lol

Technician Engineer

Brawler Apollo

Wildcard I'm thinking about one right now

Can I use composite versions(New 52/Wildstorm)? If not I'll get the Wildstorm versions

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#42  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

@thenewbluebeetle007: I'm curious what feats Ultimate Phoenix Jean that make her too much, other than time manipulation which is not allowed.

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@precrisisbardock: IK it's not power levels. But this logic contradicts the rest of the continuity. I'll save it for if I verse you though.

@thenewbluebeetle007: all versions are too much? Unstable lost to Hulk...

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@thenewbluebeetle007: I'm curious what feats Ultimate Phoenix Jean that make her too much, other than time manipulation which is not allowed.

idk, I remember primez0ne signing up for one of my power house tourneys with her, which is why I say she's too much....

how's her TP?

@speedster101: Sentry never "lost" to World War Hulk, he just got out of control and then tired himself out, iirc. And you act like beating WWH is an easy accomplishment, which it's not.

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@thenewbluebeetle007: My logic is not that Hulk is weak, but if Hulks allowed then why not Sentry? A guy that Lost to him, and let's be honest, he was losing. But it's all good. I'll reconsider :)

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@thenewbluebeetle007:

  • Do I Know You?: If none of your characters have ever heard of each other before, then they will get full knowledge of the enemy.

Is my team eligible for this ATM? They technically don't know each other yet, this affects my wild card choice.

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@thenewbluebeetle007: Technician is Dr. Bruce Banner, Hulk up to Indestructible Hulk as the Brawler and Savior Cable is the Wild Card.

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@ghostravage: hulk up to indestructible Hulk is including his feats as wwh no? That s op

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#50  Edited By Sovereign91001