Lord Voldemort vs The Dragon Reborn Rand Al"Thor

Who Wins in the NOVEL Showdown of Magic and Power?

Who Wins?

@CadenceV2: What are Rand 'Al''Thor's feats?

@kingkronos said:

@CadenceV2: What are Rand 'Al''Thor's feats?

Bear with me its been Years I read the Books and there like 600 pages each and are in a collection of 15 books. Im only human and cant remember everything.

As the Dragon he has Created a Storm of sorts that only struck and killed Mydraal and Trollocs in one shot while it flowed thru the halls of the Stone of Tear Keep.

He Generated a Fire Wave mixed with Lightning that whipped out a whole Army (dont remeber exact number but it was over a 1000 Trollocks with Mydrall in it) in seconds.

He aslo can Open Portals that are Instant in Transporting and use these Portal to Cut anything in its way on the molecular level, including Air it self.

He has in the Battle of Tarwin Gap Battled the Dark One (actually turned out to be the greatest of Forsaken and Rands Previous Life greatest enemy) litteraly in the Sky where every attack and parry was Thunder and parted the Clouds.

Rand also rediscovered the Weave for Balefire. Balefire is a Weave that erases EVERYTHING and ANYTHING (including the very Air it travels thru and other peoples Spells) out of Existance.

He was able to also reverse the Taint cast by the Dark One on Saidin (the Male Half of the True Power) and considering the Dark One has Magic enough to bring people erase from Existance back into Existance is pretty impressive.

Those are just the ones I remeber. He is also a Top Tier Swordsman and wields either his Heron mark Blade or the Crystal Sword Callandor that can destroy whole cities with a single swing.

@CadenceV2: Voldemort doesn't have that kind of fire power. His best destructive feat is destroying the shield which was a city block level. And it took much of his power. But Voldemort can still Teleport. Does that guy have immunity to telepathy, cos Voldemort shines when it comes to telepathy. Voldemort can teleport and fly. That guy also better have some kind of teleportation or flight or speed. Because of he doesn't Voldemort can just teleport behind him and kill him with AK. That's assuming it works, because it should work on everyone who has a soul. Anyway, Voldemort has TK, teleportation, flight, one shot kill, conjure shields to block his attacks, descent destructive power, Telepathy, transmutation, etc.... So the other guy should better have some immunity to Voldemort's major powers.

I ddi a little Researchin on Rand again and remember alot more of his better stuff.

He has the Teleportation which is called Skimming (Slower way for lesser power) and Traveling which creats a Silver Line that cuts Reality apart for Instant Teleport.

He also is a A Gammer in Telepathy. Rands has unconciounsly broken into the most protetced of Dreams, Use a Weave called Compulsioon (Mind Control), and because he is the Strongest Ta'Vern in the weave he has a automatic compulsion of worshipping him or following him. That last one wont work at all here but he has A Game Mind Control and no one has yet broke into his mind after he set up his mental Ward Weaves later on.

The Balefire is OP here as no Shield can Block it. It literaly Burns you back in time. If burn back far enough you simply non exist. That means any Shield (and people tried) just becomes Non Existant as that shield is burn from time (thus never happen). The Only way to block it is with another Balefire which will cancel eachother out.

Rands Speed is fast enough to match Mydrall who Combat Speed is linked to Striking Venomus Serphants. Rand can also Weave Shielding that protects from other Spells.

No Feats have been linked to flying. But since he can Weave Lghting Storms that strike whatever is a threat as he did 3 times. Im not worry about that.

The Balefire is too OP now I think about it.

@CadenceV2: Both have Telepathy, both have teleportation, both have one-shot kill (Voldemort's AK, and Balefire). Destructive power doesn't matter much here, since they both can just teleport away. So I think the winner here is who gets the first one-kill shot.

Also, I didn't understand his speed, can you be more specific? Does he have superhuman speed, or hypersonic, or what? Because that matters alot in this battle.

Balefire is way too overpowered. It wouldnt matter if Voldemort put up one thousand shields while continuously firing the killing curse because Balefire would simply erase everything. 

@kingkronos: Hmmm heres a interesting thought. Rand is as fast as a Kobra Strike (which is a Blur) with as fast Reflexes and perception. I dont rightly know Voldemorts speed.

So if Volde his faster then it becomes a question of if Rand can Hot Voldermot with a Balefire shot or Voldermort hit Rand with enough AKs to get thru to him.

One other thing I can use on Rands side to help is Mirror Mist which is Bending and Weaving of Air and Spirit. It bassicaly Physical Illussions so Rand could make Mutlis of himself or simply clouad the area.

Also there is the Weave Folding Light that makes you Invisible. Not traditional Invisible either. It makes it so any eyesight cannot focuse and slide off the target. So in the books people just simply dont notice your there. When they do know someone is using it they can only sense there general area.

Finnaly Rand might find DeathGates useful here. Deathgates is making Hundreds of the Travel Gates that open and closes Rapidly at random spots every split second. A Grinder that slices and dices entire areas droppoing off little pieces where the second Gate Opens. However Rand had to concetrate to use that one.

Thats about it I can see being Helpful.

Rand demolishes Voldemort.

Let's say hypothetically the battle suddenly started, and they both pointed at one another and did their strongest attack:

Voldemort: Avada Kedavra

Rand: Balefire.

Let's say that hypothetically both attacks pass beside each other and hit their targets:

Avada Kedavra hits Rand. He dies. (maybe)

Balefire hits Voldemort. He ceases to have ever existed.

Rand is magically back alive and not worse for the wear, since Voldemort never attacked him. Harry Potter never got his scar. Cedric Diggory's still alive and never came back as a laughable sparkling Vampire named Edward. Lily and James Potter are back alive. The Chamber of Secrets were never opened. Ect.

Something to think about.

@Jezer: That's actually a very interesting point. But I doubt the battle would be that short. Is Balefire rapidly cast like AK, or does it take time? This matters a lot. Voldemort can just conjure fiendfyre and put the whole area on fire, he can teleport, can fly above Rand and attack him from the sky. He can make himself invisible, and attack with the killing curse.

@kingkronos: All of Rand's powers are neigh-instantaneous. He needs no medium in order to use magic, though it can be strengthened with the use of an angreal or sa'angreal. For Rand, to use basic forms of magic, he'd need only the time requiered to comprehend the structure of the magic. Balefire is a relatively simple, though power-consuming spell, and he has been able to summon it forth in less time than it took for what is basicly a super-powered, poisonous wolf to complete a leap at him, so I'd say much less than a second. Rand is also VERY active in a battle, and has been known to conjure up more than twelve fairly advanced spells at the same time, whilst at the same time both levitating and blocking of the power of two of the most powerful women in the world, magicly speaking. Unlike Voldemort, Rand's limit is his imagination, when it comes to his arsenal. He has sprouted whips of fire from his fingertips which pierced through any object. Also, his crystal sword works to drasticly increase the power of all his spells as it's a sa'angreal, however it doesn't have the safety mechanisms of normal sa'angreals and therefore makes the spells a bit more chaotic, additionaly, it's the only known object to have ever stopped balefire, besides the indestructible stone known as Cuendillar, as Cuendillar is only strengthened by magic, unless it's the corruption of Shai'tan, who's basicly the devil.

To expand on what was said earlier, as Rand is the strongest Ta'veren in history, people are naturaly inclined to worship him, and random, erratic things happen around him. Live in the same city as him, and you'll hear stories about people surviving 100-foot drops and others dying by eating porrige. Basicly, he turns chance upon it's head.

Recently, Rand has been able to litteraly make anything he wants appear just through imagination, he doesn't even use magic.

Rand has a mad man in his head who constantly tries to take controll, and madness is something which seeps through his blood. Even if Voldemort got past Rand's mental defenses, he would have to leave instantly or he'd turn mad himself. Only reason Rand himself hasn't gone mad yet is because he has the protection of the creator.

In Rand's possesion is the key to the Khoedin'khal. A giant Sa'angreal, which can amplify his power to where he could crush or reshape the entire world.

Rand al Thor destroys him. This is a mismatch.