Lord Voldemort vs Darth Sidious

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#1 Posted by ronki23 (167 posts) - 3 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

I found a pretty awesome scenario off of another website:
 
"Lord Voldemort enters the Potter household alone. He sees that the windows are shattered and that the house is in ruins. Upon entering Lily and James' room he sees their corpses on the floor with wands in their hands. Inspecting them,he sees that the have been killed by what looks like a combination of sword strikes and some sort of burn. Seeing that Harry is not in his cot, Voldemort goes into the room next door where he sees a hooded old man holding Harry
 
'Who are you?! Do you honestly think that you can protect him?!' shouts Voldemort
 
Voldemort hears a cackle and sees the yellow,glowing eyes of this man
 
'Lord Voldemort is it not?! You are too late my friend, the boy will be spared and will become my apprentice, Darth Potter!'
 
Voldemort whips out his wand
 
'You are no mere mortal, hand him over or you'll see the power of dark magic!'
 
Suddenly a red light appears on the end of Sideous' hand
 
'Your skills in magic pale in comparison to the Dark Side of the Force!'
 
 
Who do you think will win
 
I personally think Sideous wins but was told that Voldemort with Horcruxes and Elder Wand is invincible. Haven't read Deathly Hallows so I can't comment

#2 Posted by HaloKing343 (1251 posts) - 3 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

Voldemort uses the kill spell . 
 
The end.
#3 Posted by ronki23 (167 posts) - 3 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

Palpatine has force lightning and reflexes fast enough to slice Voldemort among other force powers

#4 Posted by HaloKing343 (1251 posts) - 3 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio
@ronki23:
That's a good point actually. 
  
You could always go with Force Kill, or Death Field, whatever that's called. The thing from KOTOR where they just die. Palpatine would wreck at that. Plus what he did to Darth Plagus was just horrific. I guess that sort of mirrors what's going on with Voldemort. Plagus was the top-dog at the time and Sidious outdid him too. 
 
Maybe you're right. Sidious wins.
#5 Posted by Montaq (914 posts) - 3 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

I say Sidious
#6 Edited by Undergroundgod (2925 posts) - 3 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

Sidious.
 
Let me explain why. 
 
One was killed by Harry Potter a  Teen under achiver but the "Chosen one." One was killed by a Dark Sith Lord Vader the "Chosen One." I know these sound alike, trust me when I say they are not anything alike. Sidious Force Chokes the shit out of Volemort and makes him his bitch. You can't say Avracadavra (Don't know if I spelled it right.) If you can't breath. 

#7 Posted by xan84 (4286 posts) - 3 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

Sidious wins.
#8 Posted by SpidermanPrimeZ (233 posts) - 3 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

Voldemort has expertly tuned reaction times, given the amount of 'dueling' he's done, and with a massive arsenal of Dark magic at his control, I doubt this fight will be over as quickly as some are suggesting. But nonetheless, Sidious takes this; his powers are of a greater scope than Voldie's, add in the lightsaber and he takes this without massive difficulty.  
 
Movie Sidious: Voldemort wins 8/10 
Any other Sidious: Sidious wins 8/10
 
  
#9 Posted by mrbobdobalina (1168 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Possible stalemate.

#10 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (6215 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Jk, Rowlling say once, a guy with a gun could kill any Harry Potterverse wizard, since Sidious could kill any one that have a gun, Sidious wins.

#11 Posted by D3athstroke (3658 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

  

#12 Posted by MasterJohn (2472 posts) - 7 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

This is a great thread.. I don't know who wins, I think Voldermort, but I am not sure.

#13 Posted by Xanni15 (6265 posts) - 7 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

@MasterJohn said:

This is a great thread.. I don't know who wins, I think Voldermort, but I am not sure.

For some reason I'm not surprised you'd go against Sidious. lol

#14 Posted by steelhound56 (1068 posts) - 7 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

Been done

Sidious murderstomps poor Voldemort....

Sidious' abilities and knowledge of the Force >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voldemort's knowledge and ability to use magic.

Sidious would run out of ways to kill Voldemort before Voldemort could even find a way to kill him.

#15 Posted by Kellar21 (444 posts) - 7 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

Isn't Sidious faster than the eye can see in a duel,I mean he killed 3 Jedi Masters who were among the best before the second best duelist in Order could react and was only defeat because Windu was extrmely amped by Vaapad and Sidious decided to make a sabers only fight.

In HP spells can be dodged by teens so Sidious either kill Voldy before he could react or dodges one spell that he could cast and kills him.

#16 Posted by Dark_Fang (545 posts) - 7 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

Sidious so bad.

#17 Posted by ShootingNova (9474 posts) - 7 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

For the love of God..........

This has been done before:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/lord-voldemort-vs-darth-sidious/654658/ (and more times too)

And it's a severe mismatch:

@ShootingNova said:

Anakin has reacted fast enough to dodge lightning and even see ships in slow-motion,

Obi-Wan was already making that exact move as Anakin spoke. But they were inverted to each other: breaking right shot him one way while Anakin whipped the other. The tri-fighters' cannons ripped space between them, tracking faster than their starfighters could slip. His onboard threat display chimed a warning: two of the droids had remote sensor locks on him. The others must have lit up his partner. "Anakin! Slip-jaws!"
"My thought exactly."
They blew past the tri-fighters, looping in evasive spirals. The droid ships wrenched themselves into pursuit maneuvers that would have killed any living pilot. The slip-jaws maneuver was named for the scissorlike mandibles of the Kashyyyk slash-spider. Droids closing rapidly on their tails, cannonfire stitching space on all sides, the two Jedi pulled their ships through perfectly mirrored rolls that sent them streaking head-on for each other from opposite ends of a vast Republic cruiser. For merely human pilots, this would be suicide. By the time you can see your partner's starfighter streaking toward you at a respectable fraction of lightspeed, it's already too late for your merely human reflexes to react.
But these particular pilots were far from merely human.
The Force nudged hands on control yokes and the Jedi starfighters twisted and flashed past each other belly-to-belly, close enough to scorch each other's paint.

---Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Yet Anakin cannot even see Sidious:

Anakin blinked and rubbed his eyes again. Maybe he was still a bit flash-blind—the Korun Master seemed to be fading in and out of existence, half swallowed by a thickening black haze in which danced a meter-long bar of sunfire. Mace pressed back the darkness with a relentless straight-ahead march; his own blade, that distinctive amethyst blaze that had been the final sight of so many evil beings across the galaxy, made a haze of its own: an oblate sphere of purple fire within which there seemed to be dozens of swords slashing in all directions at once.
The shadow he fought, that blur of speed—could that be Palpatine?
Their blades flared and flashed, crashing together with bursts of fire, weaving nets of killing energy in exchanges so fast that Anakin could not truly see them—but he could feel them in the Force. The Force itself roiled and burst and crashed around them, boiling with power and lightspeed ricochets of lethal intent. And it was darkening.

He could feel the end of this battle approaching, and so could the blur of Sith he faced; in the Force, the shadow had become a pulsar of fear.

-- Taken from Revenge of the Sith

So its obvious Voldemort can't see Sidious either. Not to mention Sidious has killed people so fast they appeared to be disposed of by a phantom, and this was when Sidious was an apprentice.

Sidious has mind-wiped twenty billion people simultaneously, instantaneously and with ease. Then you have his Wormholes that rip through time-space continuum and annihilate entire fleets, the surface of planets/moons etc.:

@ShootingNova said:

I'm going to take something from my post in the Gandalf vs. Palpatine thread, only this applies to Voldemort now:

Obi-Wan was already making that exact move as Anakin spoke. But they were inverted to each other: breaking right shot him one way while Anakin whipped the other. The tri-fighters' cannons ripped space between them, tracking faster than their starfighters could slip. His onboard threat display chimed a warning: two of the droids had remote sensor locks on him. The others must have lit up his partner. "Anakin! Slip-jaws!"

"My thought exactly."

They blew past the tri-fighters, looping in evasive spirals. The droid ships wrenched themselves into pursuit maneuvers that would have killed any living pilot. The slip-jaws maneuver was named for the scissorlike mandibles of the Kashyyyk slash-spider. Droids closing rapidly on their tails, cannonfire stitching space on all sides, the two Jedi pulled their ships through perfectly mirrored rolls that sent them streaking head-on for each other from opposite ends of a vast Republic cruiser. For merely human pilots, this would be suicide. By the time you can see your partner's starfighter streaking toward you at a respectable fraction of lightspeed, it's already too late for your merely human reflexes to react.

But these particular pilots were far from merely human.

The Force nudged hands on control yokes and the Jedi starfighters twisted and flashed past each other belly-to-belly, close enough to scorch each other's paint.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Which is already far beyond Voldemort's capacity for reaction.

But even if he did have such a reaction speed, he would have lacked the ability to react to Palpatine (in fact he would have lacked the ability to even see Palpatine):

Anakin blinked and rubbed his eyes again. Maybe he was still a bit flash-blind—the Korun Master seemed to be fading in and out of existence, half swallowed by a thickening black haze in which danced a meter-long bar of sunfire. Mace pressed back the darkness with a relentless straight-ahead march; his own blade, that distinctive amethyst blaze that had been the final sight of so many evil beings across the galaxy, made a haze of its own: an oblate sphere of purple fire within which there seemed to be dozens of swords slashing in all directions at once.

The shadow he fought, that blur of speed—could that be Palpatine?

Their blades flared and flashed, crashing together with bursts of fire, weaving nets of killing energy in exchanges so fast that Anakin could not truly see them—but he could feel them in the Force. The Force itself roiled and burst and crashed around them, boiling with power and lightspeed ricochets of lethal intent. And it was darkening.

He could feel the end of this battle approaching, and so could the blur of Sith he faced; in the Force, the shadow had become a pulsar of fear.

-- Taken from Revenge of the Sith

I believe it is quite imaginable that certain Dark Side Force powers can obliterate Voldemort. Palpatine has mastered all Dark Side powers and techniques, and created his own ones at leisure:

Palpatine has spent decades studying the most arcane and esoteric Jedi disciplines. It is believed that he has mastered nearly all the known powers, previously unknown powers, and devises new ones at his pleasure.

--Taken from Dark Empire Sourcebook (credit to Silver2467)

With Essence Transfer, Palpatine can simply possess Voldemort within the space of death, even if he did die (yes, I know he won't).

Here he uses a Wormhole (before he has mastered it) to transport his spirit across the galaxy:

The moment the Emperor "died" at the Battle of Endor, Droga fell into an inexplicable insanity, butchering his crew and causing the Emperor's Shadow to plunge into Kaal's oceans. Even as he perished, Palpatine used the dark side knowledge the Sith Lords had granted him years earlier to rend space itself and transmigrate his essence across lightyears to Droga's body. The infusion of Palpatine's overwhelming dark side energies reduced Droga to incoherent madness. Eventually, Palpatine's Grand Vizier Pestage was able to find Droga and tear the Emperor's essence from Droga's body.

--Taken from Gamer #5 (credit to Silver2467)

With purely the force of will, Palpatine's spirit (with no host) returns from the void, anchoring itself to the physical realm:

Palpatine's body was destroyed. Separated from his clones, Palpatine was forced to survive in the maddening, bodiless existence of the void. Through sheer will he retained his identity, crossing the gulf of space to again take up residence in his clone body.

--Taken from The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

The power of Palpatine's lightning is shown to be capable of bending Windu's lightsaber (yes, Palpatine stopped only to convince Anakin to go to the Dark Side):

Lightning blasted the clouds above, and lightning blasted from Palpatine's hands, and Mace didn't have time to comprehend what Palpatine was talking about; he had time only to slip back into Vaapad and angle his blade to catch the forking arcs of pure, dazzling hatred that clawed toward him. Because Vaapad is more than a fighting style. It is a state of mind: a channel for darkness. Power passed into him and out again without touching him. And the circuit completed itself: the lightning reflected back to its source.

Palpatine still made no move to defend himself from Skywalker; instead he ramped up the lightning bursting from his hands, bending the fountain of Mace's blade back toward the Korun Master's face.

Mace's blade bent so close to his face that he was choking on ozone. "Anakin, he's too strong for me—"

This was beyond Vaapad; he had no strength left to fight against his own blade.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Palpatine's lightning is shown to be powerful enough to overpower Yoda (even with Yoda using Force Absorption/Tutaminis and Force Deflection):

In the Senate Arena, lightning forked from the hands of a Sith, and bent away from the gesture of a Jedi to shock Redrobes into unconsciousness. Then there were only the two of them. Their clash transcended the personal; when new lightning blazed, it was not Palpatine burning Yoda with his hate, it was the Lord of all Sith scorching the Master of all Jedi into a smoldering huddle of clothing and green flesh.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Palpatine can kill beings with Lightning:

Garrbo V'Droz almost dropped his glow rod when it shined off a face he recognized in one of the chambers. There was a grim smile on its face. The green-haired occupant of the chamber was someone with whom Garrbo V'Droz was intimately familiar: his brother, the construction foreman.

Whirling on his patron, he whimpered, "What is the meaning of this?" Emperor Palpatine smiled and said simply, "It means that you and I are the only ones left who know the way through the labyrinth to my...home for treasures too valuable even for my museum above. And soon, it will just be me," the Emperor grinned horribly, as Garrbo V'Droz cowered.

"Don't worry, my friend," hissed the dark figure, gesturing grandly at a vacant spot in the chamber, "you shall have a place of honor here. You've earned it."

Palpatine raised his hands, preparing to strike, and then, allowing himself a final moment to savor the fear in his victim, added, "And if 1 ever need your services again, I will not hesitate to clone you."

V'Droz cringed as the Emperor threw vicious bolts of lightning from his hands and ensured that the galaxy's finest architect was forever a part of his last, greatest work.

--Taken from The Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook (His Finest Work) (credit to Silver2467)

"I need him alive!" Skywalker shouted. "I need him to save Padme!"

Mace thought blankly, Why? And moved his lightsaber toward the fallen Chancellor. Before he could follow through on his stroke, a sudden arc of blue plasma sheared through his wrist and his hand tumbled away with his lightsaber still in it and Palpatine roared back to his feet and lightning speared from the Sith Lord's hands and without his blade to catch it, the power of Palpatine's hate struck him full-on.

He had been so intent on Palpatine's shatterpoint that he'd never thought to look for Anakin's. Dark lightning blasted away his universe. He fell forever.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Prior to receiving any training in the Force, Palpatine hurls his father around a cabin, strangles his mother, distorts a bulkhead, and murders his siblings with the Force.

Once more Sidious allowed his memories to unfold, and he relived the crimethe event, as he had at last come to think of it. His father's limp and blooded body. The smashed skulls of the bodyguards. His hands clenched around his mother's slender throat—but not really, only in his mind, strangling her with his thoughts. The lifeless forms of his siblings, slumped here and there...

--Taken from Darth Plagueis

Prior to receiving any training, Palpatine is so powerful in the Force that Plagueis cannot scan him and is so powerful in the Force it literally conceals itself within him:

Palpatine’s fury buffeted Plagueis. Blossoms growing along the sides of the pathway folded in on themselves, and their pollinators began to buzz in agitation. FourDee reacted, as well, wobbling on its feet, as if in the grip of a powerful electromagnet. Had this human truly been born of flesh-and-blood parents? Plagueis asked himself. When, in fact, he seemed sprung from nature itself. Was the Force so strong in him that it had concealed itself?

--Taken from Darth Plagueis

And he creates Wormholes which rip through the space-time continuum, consuming entire fleets, the surfaces of planets and moons, and can teleport beings and spirits across the galaxy:

Palpatine drains the life force of the population of Byss (almost twenty billion) slowly while travelling across the galaxy, doing whatever he is:

Throughout the worlds submissive to the Empire, Byss is renowned as a paradise, whose siren call multitudes to willingly apply for emigration to its shores. Once there, wrapped in the power of the dark side, the immigrants become completely submissive, their life energy forever enslaved to the mind that would devour a galaxy.

--Taken from the Dark Empire endnotes

And Palpatine enslaves the minds of all those on Byss, which again, totals nearly twenty billion, and he does so simultaneously, instantaneously and effortlessly:

What better lure for multitudes than Byss's siren call of beauty and peace? Once there, their wills are destroyed by the Emperor and his Adepts, and replaced with an illusion of tranquility as they blissfully surrender their life energy to sustain the Emperor.

--Taken from Dark Empire Sourcebook

Palpatine is regarded as a Black Hole of the Force:

Now the scene below subtly altered, though to the physical eye there was no change. Powered by the dark side, Dooku's perception took the measure of those below him with exhilarating precision.
Kenobi was luminous, a transparent being, a window onto a sunlit meadow of the Force.
Skywalker was a storm cloud, flickering with dangerous lightning, building the rotation that threatens a tornado.
And then there was Palpatine, of course: he was beyond power. He showed nothing of what might be within. Though seen with the eyes of the dark side itself, Palpatine was an event horizon. Beneath his entirely ordinary surface was absolute, perfect nothingness. Darkness beyond darkness.
A black hole of the Force.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Palpatine's mere anger creates a Weather Storm, even though he is visually holding it back:

Reeling, Ferus stood next to Vader as the Emperor approached them. Clouds had rolled in like a great gray carpet; a storm was brewing. The thickness of the air and the coming storm seemed to give a hard change to the atmosphere.

Ferus felt the blast of the Emperor's fury, though he remained calm. Palpatine came straight to Vader.

-- Taken from Last of the Jedi: Master of Deception

As you can see, Palpatine has a multitude of methods to eliminate Voldemort, while Voldemort has absolutely no way of changing that, or eliminating Palpatine.

Voldemort lacks the ability to even remotely react to Palpatine, and Palpatine has dozens of ways of annihilating Voldemort. So, Palpatine does indeed obliterate Vpldemort.

Several of those above quotes are credited to Silver, but that doesn't change the fact that they still apply here.

Yeah, I changed the last one to suit Voldemort, but you get the point.

#18 Posted by MasterJohn (2472 posts) - 7 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

This seems to be the original, that one was made 4 months ago, this 2 years ago.

#19 Posted by ShootingNova (9474 posts) - 7 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

@MasterJohn: Regardless, this is still a severe mismatch.

#20 Posted by JediXMan (23363 posts) - 7 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio
#21 Posted by ShootingNova (9474 posts) - 7 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio
#22 Posted by Quartermaim (465 posts) - 7 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

There is much that Sidious can do. But its about what he will do in that actual moment.

This battle is going to be short and ugly. Both of them are so damn arrogant they will most likely open themselves up to attack.

I see Voldemort going for the death spell (I don't think he actually has to say it outloud he a highly trained Wizard but I could be wrong)

Sidious goes for his death move.

They both get hit and die together, only to return eventually because they both have plans against such things.

#23 Posted by ShootingNova (9474 posts) - 7 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

@Quartermaim said:

There is much that Sidious can do. But its about what he will do in that actual moment.

This battle is going to be short and ugly. Both of them are so damn arrogant they will most likely open themselves up to attack.

I see Voldemort going for the death spell (I don't think he actually has to say it outloud he a highly trained Wizard but I could be wrong)

Sidious goes for his death move.

They both get hit and die together, only to return eventually because they both have plans against such things.

@ShootingNova said:

@ShootingNova said:

Anakin has reacted fast enough to dodge lightning and even see ships in slow-motion,

Obi-Wan was already making that exact move as Anakin spoke. But they were inverted to each other: breaking right shot him one way while Anakin whipped the other. The tri-fighters' cannons ripped space between them, tracking faster than their starfighters could slip. His onboard threat display chimed a warning: two of the droids had remote sensor locks on him. The others must have lit up his partner. "Anakin! Slip-jaws!"
"My thought exactly."
They blew past the tri-fighters, looping in evasive spirals. The droid ships wrenched themselves into pursuit maneuvers that would have killed any living pilot. The slip-jaws maneuver was named for the scissorlike mandibles of the Kashyyyk slash-spider. Droids closing rapidly on their tails, cannonfire stitching space on all sides, the two Jedi pulled their ships through perfectly mirrored rolls that sent them streaking head-on for each other from opposite ends of a vast Republic cruiser. For merely human pilots, this would be suicide. By the time you can see your partner's starfighter streaking toward you at a respectable fraction of lightspeed, it's already too late for your merely human reflexes to react.
But these particular pilots were far from merely human.
The Force nudged hands on control yokes and the Jedi starfighters twisted and flashed past each other belly-to-belly, close enough to scorch each other's paint.

---Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Yet Anakin cannot even see Sidious:

Anakin blinked and rubbed his eyes again. Maybe he was still a bit flash-blind—the Korun Master seemed to be fading in and out of existence, half swallowed by a thickening black haze in which danced a meter-long bar of sunfire. Mace pressed back the darkness with a relentless straight-ahead march; his own blade, that distinctive amethyst blaze that had been the final sight of so many evil beings across the galaxy, made a haze of its own: an oblate sphere of purple fire within which there seemed to be dozens of swords slashing in all directions at once.
The shadow he fought, that blur of speed—could that be Palpatine?
Their blades flared and flashed, crashing together with bursts of fire, weaving nets of killing energy in exchanges so fast that Anakin could not truly see them—but he could feel them in the Force. The Force itself roiled and burst and crashed around them, boiling with power and lightspeed ricochets of lethal intent. And it was darkening.

He could feel the end of this battle approaching, and so could the blur of Sith he faced; in the Force, the shadow had become a pulsar of fear.

-- Taken from Revenge of the Sith

So its obvious Voldemort can't see Sidious either. Not to mention Sidious has killed people so fast they appeared to be disposed of by a phantom, and this was when Sidious was an apprentice.

Sidious has mind-wiped twenty billion people simultaneously, instantaneously and with ease. Then you have his Wormholes that rip through time-space continuum and annihilate entire fleets, the surface of planets/moons etc.:

@ShootingNova said:

I'm going to take something from my post in the Gandalf vs. Palpatine thread, only this applies to Voldemort now:

Obi-Wan was already making that exact move as Anakin spoke. But they were inverted to each other: breaking right shot him one way while Anakin whipped the other. The tri-fighters' cannons ripped space between them, tracking faster than their starfighters could slip. His onboard threat display chimed a warning: two of the droids had remote sensor locks on him. The others must have lit up his partner. "Anakin! Slip-jaws!"

"My thought exactly."

They blew past the tri-fighters, looping in evasive spirals. The droid ships wrenched themselves into pursuit maneuvers that would have killed any living pilot. The slip-jaws maneuver was named for the scissorlike mandibles of the Kashyyyk slash-spider. Droids closing rapidly on their tails, cannonfire stitching space on all sides, the two Jedi pulled their ships through perfectly mirrored rolls that sent them streaking head-on for each other from opposite ends of a vast Republic cruiser. For merely human pilots, this would be suicide. By the time you can see your partner's starfighter streaking toward you at a respectable fraction of lightspeed, it's already too late for your merely human reflexes to react.

But these particular pilots were far from merely human.

The Force nudged hands on control yokes and the Jedi starfighters twisted and flashed past each other belly-to-belly, close enough to scorch each other's paint.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Which is already far beyond Voldemort's capacity for reaction.

But even if he did have such a reaction speed, he would have lacked the ability to react to Palpatine (in fact he would have lacked the ability to even see Palpatine):

Anakin blinked and rubbed his eyes again. Maybe he was still a bit flash-blind—the Korun Master seemed to be fading in and out of existence, half swallowed by a thickening black haze in which danced a meter-long bar of sunfire. Mace pressed back the darkness with a relentless straight-ahead march; his own blade, that distinctive amethyst blaze that had been the final sight of so many evil beings across the galaxy, made a haze of its own: an oblate sphere of purple fire within which there seemed to be dozens of swords slashing in all directions at once.

The shadow he fought, that blur of speed—could that be Palpatine?

Their blades flared and flashed, crashing together with bursts of fire, weaving nets of killing energy in exchanges so fast that Anakin could not truly see them—but he could feel them in the Force. The Force itself roiled and burst and crashed around them, boiling with power and lightspeed ricochets of lethal intent. And it was darkening.

He could feel the end of this battle approaching, and so could the blur of Sith he faced; in the Force, the shadow had become a pulsar of fear.

-- Taken from Revenge of the Sith

I believe it is quite imaginable that certain Dark Side Force powers can obliterate Voldemort. Palpatine has mastered all Dark Side powers and techniques, and created his own ones at leisure:

Palpatine has spent decades studying the most arcane and esoteric Jedi disciplines. It is believed that he has mastered nearly all the known powers, previously unknown powers, and devises new ones at his pleasure.

--Taken from Dark Empire Sourcebook (credit to Silver2467)

With Essence Transfer, Palpatine can simply possess Voldemort within the space of death, even if he did die (yes, I know he won't).

Here he uses a Wormhole (before he has mastered it) to transport his spirit across the galaxy:

The moment the Emperor "died" at the Battle of Endor, Droga fell into an inexplicable insanity, butchering his crew and causing the Emperor's Shadow to plunge into Kaal's oceans. Even as he perished, Palpatine used the dark side knowledge the Sith Lords had granted him years earlier to rend space itself and transmigrate his essence across lightyears to Droga's body. The infusion of Palpatine's overwhelming dark side energies reduced Droga to incoherent madness. Eventually, Palpatine's Grand Vizier Pestage was able to find Droga and tear the Emperor's essence from Droga's body.

--Taken from Gamer #5 (credit to Silver2467)

With purely the force of will, Palpatine's spirit (with no host) returns from the void, anchoring itself to the physical realm:

Palpatine's body was destroyed. Separated from his clones, Palpatine was forced to survive in the maddening, bodiless existence of the void. Through sheer will he retained his identity, crossing the gulf of space to again take up residence in his clone body.

--Taken from The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia

The power of Palpatine's lightning is shown to be capable of bending Windu's lightsaber (yes, Palpatine stopped only to convince Anakin to go to the Dark Side):

Lightning blasted the clouds above, and lightning blasted from Palpatine's hands, and Mace didn't have time to comprehend what Palpatine was talking about; he had time only to slip back into Vaapad and angle his blade to catch the forking arcs of pure, dazzling hatred that clawed toward him. Because Vaapad is more than a fighting style. It is a state of mind: a channel for darkness. Power passed into him and out again without touching him. And the circuit completed itself: the lightning reflected back to its source.

Palpatine still made no move to defend himself from Skywalker; instead he ramped up the lightning bursting from his hands, bending the fountain of Mace's blade back toward the Korun Master's face.

Mace's blade bent so close to his face that he was choking on ozone. "Anakin, he's too strong for me—"

This was beyond Vaapad; he had no strength left to fight against his own blade.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Palpatine's lightning is shown to be powerful enough to overpower Yoda (even with Yoda using Force Absorption/Tutaminis and Force Deflection):

In the Senate Arena, lightning forked from the hands of a Sith, and bent away from the gesture of a Jedi to shock Redrobes into unconsciousness. Then there were only the two of them. Their clash transcended the personal; when new lightning blazed, it was not Palpatine burning Yoda with his hate, it was the Lord of all Sith scorching the Master of all Jedi into a smoldering huddle of clothing and green flesh.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Palpatine can kill beings with Lightning:

Garrbo V'Droz almost dropped his glow rod when it shined off a face he recognized in one of the chambers. There was a grim smile on its face. The green-haired occupant of the chamber was someone with whom Garrbo V'Droz was intimately familiar: his brother, the construction foreman.

Whirling on his patron, he whimpered, "What is the meaning of this?" Emperor Palpatine smiled and said simply, "It means that you and I are the only ones left who know the way through the labyrinth to my...home for treasures too valuable even for my museum above. And soon, it will just be me," the Emperor grinned horribly, as Garrbo V'Droz cowered.

"Don't worry, my friend," hissed the dark figure, gesturing grandly at a vacant spot in the chamber, "you shall have a place of honor here. You've earned it."

Palpatine raised his hands, preparing to strike, and then, allowing himself a final moment to savor the fear in his victim, added, "And if 1 ever need your services again, I will not hesitate to clone you."

V'Droz cringed as the Emperor threw vicious bolts of lightning from his hands and ensured that the galaxy's finest architect was forever a part of his last, greatest work.

--Taken from The Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook (His Finest Work) (credit to Silver2467)

"I need him alive!" Skywalker shouted. "I need him to save Padme!"

Mace thought blankly, Why? And moved his lightsaber toward the fallen Chancellor. Before he could follow through on his stroke, a sudden arc of blue plasma sheared through his wrist and his hand tumbled away with his lightsaber still in it and Palpatine roared back to his feet and lightning speared from the Sith Lord's hands and without his blade to catch it, the power of Palpatine's hate struck him full-on.

He had been so intent on Palpatine's shatterpoint that he'd never thought to look for Anakin's. Dark lightning blasted away his universe. He fell forever.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Prior to receiving any training in the Force, Palpatine hurls his father around a cabin, strangles his mother, distorts a bulkhead, and murders his siblings with the Force.

Once more Sidious allowed his memories to unfold, and he relived the crimethe event, as he had at last come to think of it. His father's limp and blooded body. The smashed skulls of the bodyguards. His hands clenched around his mother's slender throat—but not really, only in his mind, strangling her with his thoughts. The lifeless forms of his siblings, slumped here and there...

--Taken from Darth Plagueis

Prior to receiving any training, Palpatine is so powerful in the Force that Plagueis cannot scan him and is so powerful in the Force it literally conceals itself within him:

Palpatine’s fury buffeted Plagueis. Blossoms growing along the sides of the pathway folded in on themselves, and their pollinators began to buzz in agitation. FourDee reacted, as well, wobbling on its feet, as if in the grip of a powerful electromagnet. Had this human truly been born of flesh-and-blood parents? Plagueis asked himself. When, in fact, he seemed sprung from nature itself. Was the Force so strong in him that it had concealed itself?

--Taken from Darth Plagueis

And he creates Wormholes which rip through the space-time continuum, consuming entire fleets, the surfaces of planets and moons, and can teleport beings and spirits across the galaxy:

Palpatine drains the life force of the population of Byss (almost twenty billion) slowly while travelling across the galaxy, doing whatever he is:

Throughout the worlds submissive to the Empire, Byss is renowned as a paradise, whose siren call multitudes to willingly apply for emigration to its shores. Once there, wrapped in the power of the dark side, the immigrants become completely submissive, their life energy forever enslaved to the mind that would devour a galaxy.

--Taken from the Dark Empire endnotes

And Palpatine enslaves the minds of all those on Byss, which again, totals nearly twenty billion, and he does so simultaneously, instantaneously and effortlessly:

What better lure for multitudes than Byss's siren call of beauty and peace? Once there, their wills are destroyed by the Emperor and his Adepts, and replaced with an illusion of tranquility as they blissfully surrender their life energy to sustain the Emperor.

--Taken from Dark Empire Sourcebook

Palpatine is regarded as a Black Hole of the Force:

Now the scene below subtly altered, though to the physical eye there was no change. Powered by the dark side, Dooku's perception took the measure of those below him with exhilarating precision.
Kenobi was luminous, a transparent being, a window onto a sunlit meadow of the Force.
Skywalker was a storm cloud, flickering with dangerous lightning, building the rotation that threatens a tornado.
And then there was Palpatine, of course: he was beyond power. He showed nothing of what might be within. Though seen with the eyes of the dark side itself, Palpatine was an event horizon. Beneath his entirely ordinary surface was absolute, perfect nothingness. Darkness beyond darkness.
A black hole of the Force.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Palpatine's mere anger creates a Weather Storm, even though he is visually holding it back:

Reeling, Ferus stood next to Vader as the Emperor approached them. Clouds had rolled in like a great gray carpet; a storm was brewing. The thickness of the air and the coming storm seemed to give a hard change to the atmosphere.

Ferus felt the blast of the Emperor's fury, though he remained calm. Palpatine came straight to Vader.

-- Taken from Last of the Jedi: Master of Deception

As you can see, Palpatine has a multitude of methods to eliminate Voldemort, while Voldemort has absolutely no way of changing that, or eliminating Palpatine.

Voldemort lacks the ability to even remotely react to Palpatine, and Palpatine has dozens of ways of annihilating Voldemort. So, Palpatine does indeed obliterate Vpldemort.

Several of those above quotes are credited to Silver, but that doesn't change the fact that they still apply here.

#24 Posted by BlackWind (2260 posts) - 7 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

Tom is outmatched here.

#25 Posted by Kovak (748 posts) - 7 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

Sidious should win here.

#26 Posted by kingkronos (2501 posts) - 7 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

Sidious is on another level.

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