Lord Voldemort and Albus Dumbledore vs Hulk

Morals on, bloodlust off.

Battle ends in death.

Battle takes place in Hogwarts

3 hours of prep for team and Hulk

BFR allowed

Who wins?

Wait Hulk and Popeye are fighting or are you just pointing out the Tatoo

And which Hulk is it and can he become Stronger to WWB or WWH if not already?

Does Voldemort has horcruxes? If yes, he just spam Avada kedrava until Hulk is dead.

@TheCheeseStabber said:

Wait Hulk and Popeye are fighting or are you just pointing out the Tatoo

And which Hulk is it and can he become Stronger to WWB or WWH if not already?

No, Popeye and Hulk aren't fighting, Popeye would solo this team.

Avada Kedavra.

Unless Hulk is now also immune to magic, which will make him pretty much invulnerable to everything which will be just... meh.

So, he loses.

The Team. Hulk has no defense against magic.

Clap

Dumbledore dead

Wand knocked off voldemort

Proceed with ground and pound

@Kingjohnrocks: That answers the 1st question

Unless Hulk can get a speedy ground pound or Thunder Clap at them I don't see him winning

@Rumble Man said:

Clap

Dumbledore dead

Wand knocked off voldemort

Proceed with ground and pound

Clap

Dumbledore knocked down

Wand knocked off of Voldemort as he proceeds to wandlessly scorch Hulk

Proceeds to rip off Hulk's head and put it up as a trophy.

Voldemort can use wandless magic.

@Kingjohnrocks: Prep time

he calls his homies and proceeds to stomp the ever-loving sh!t out of snakeface

said fire is laughed at considering he tanked storm's nova flame

as snakeface tries to rip hulk's head he gets both arms snapped

Hulk then eats tom riddle

@Rumble Man said:

Clap

Dumbledore dead

Wand knocked off voldemort

Proceed with ground and pound

@Rumble Man said:

@Kingjohnrocks: Prep time

he calls his homies and proceeds to stomp the ever-loving sh!t out of snakeface

said fire is laughed at considering he tanked storm's nova flame

as snakeface tries to rip hulk's head he gets both arms snapped

Hulk then eats tom riddle

1. No outside help

2. Stomp him? I'd like to see them dodge Crucio, and get Voldemort as he's teleporting at instant and second

3. Voldemort going invisible, spamming Avada Kedavras and crucio, creating a large fire worm would suffice here

4. Voldemort wouldn't go near Hulk until he knew he was dead. Here where I come back to invisibility, Crucio, Avada Kedavra, freezing charms, Reducto, etc.

Hulk destroys them

@Kingjohnrocks:

Has crucio been tested on anything besides baseline humans and squishy wizards?

Freezing charms, invisible, reducto? just because one is a dark wizard does not automatically give him all the spells in that work of fiction.

Hulk cannot compete against the team who are far to versatile.

@Rumble Man said:

@Kingjohnrocks:

Has crucio been tested on anything besides baseline humans and squishy wizards?

Freezing charms, invisible, reducto? just because one is a dark wizard does not automatically give him all the spells in that work of fiction.

1. Voldemort can go invisible without spells, just like Dumbledore can.

2. Voldemort has many charms, as he and Dumbledore are masters of charms. Do they have all spells? No. A wide variety, and can gain more with prep time? Yes.

3. No, but this does not automatically mean it won't work on Hulk. A Jedi Lightsaber hasn't been used on something like Hulk, does that mean it wouldn't work? No it doesn't. Plus there's also Sectumsempra, Levicorpus, etc.

@Kingjohnrocks:

No, but this does not automatically mean it won't work on Hulk. A Jedi Lightsaber hasn't been used on something like Hulk, does that mean it wouldn't work? No it doesn't. Plus there's also Sectumsempra, Levicorpus, etc.

Hulk is no slouch on the pain department, the thing with lightsabers is that he has been subjected to plenty of laser/beam weaponry in over the course of his life. That and plenty of sharp and pointy objects, sectumsempra would be a papercut.

I need clarifications on invisibility. Albus is a weak link here.

If spell is not practitioned by Albus or Voldy then they don't have it. Don't stretch their capabilities for convenience.

This is such a stomp, Hulk would obliterate them

Both Voldemort and Dumbledore are master wizards with countless spells that can be cast at the speed of thought. Not to mention, Voldemort can fly and both the wizards can teleport. I don't see why an Avada Kedavra curse would not kill the Hulk? The Avada Kedavra is never shown to be something that can be resisted though physical durability, the only instance of someone surviving an Avada Kedavra was when Harry Potter was shielded by his mother's love and sacrifice. Voldemort also survived the backfire of his Avada Kedavra though the use of his horcruxes. So based of that, the only methods of surviving the killing curse are magical. I don't think the Hulk has a chance if he is hit by Avada Kedavra.

The Wizards win.

@NeonGameWave@UltimateHero0406 Thoughts?

@Rumble Man said:

@Kingjohnrocks:

No, but this does not automatically mean it won't work on Hulk. A Jedi Lightsaber hasn't been used on something like Hulk, does that mean it wouldn't work? No it doesn't. Plus there's also Sectumsempra, Levicorpus, etc.

Hulk is no slouch on the pain department, the thing with lightsabers is that he has been subjected to plenty of laser/beam weaponry in over the course of his life. That and plenty of sharp and pointy objects, sectumsempra would be a papercut.

I need clarifications on invisibility. Albus is a weak link here.

If spell is not practitioned by Albus or Voldy then they don't have it. Don't stretch their capabilities for convenience.

Dumbledore never practiced Water Spells, but he was able to use a hydrokenetic spell. Coincidence? I think not.

Weak link? Dumbledore could start a fire storm wandlessly, casts spells wandlessly and wordlessly, go invisible without spells, etc. Also, every basic student gets most spells possible, MOST spells and Charms. Voldemort was once a student, now he's a dark wizard. No reason he couldn't use Reducto.

Clarifications on invisibility:

I don't need a cloak to become invisible.” -Dumbledore
― J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone

Voldemort can also go invisible, he'd use a disillusionment charm.

They can also fly without brooms.

Etc.

@Kingjohnrocks:

Dumbledore never practiced Water Spells, but he was able to use a hydrokenetic spell.
Coincidence? I think not.

Did J.K. forgot her characters to advance the plot? maybe

Weak link? Dumbledore could start a fire storm wandlessly, casts spells wandlessly and wordlessly, go invisible without spells, etc. Also, every basic student gets most spells possible, MOST spells and Charms. Voldemort was once a student, now he's a dark wizard. No reason he couldn't use Reducto.

No reason he could, unless stated by story explicitly or clarified by the author. Lets not inflate a character with baseless assumptions here, and its sweet that dumbo can do firestorms and spells but at the end he is a squishy wizard. The only reason voldy is a threat is because the horcruxes, nothing more and nothing less.

Voldemort can also go invisible, he'd use a disillusionment charm.

when's this?

team wins it

@Rumble Man

No reason he could, unless stated by story explicitly or clarified by the author. Lets not inflate a character with baseless assumptions here, and its sweet that dumbo can do firestorms and spells but at the end he is a squishy wizard. The only reason voldy is a threat is because the horcruxes, nothing more and nothing less.

Squishy wizard? Opinion. Show me something in the book that says that. According to the book he's the most powerful Wizard in HP. When he was fighting Voldemort and spells were flying at him, he was walking towards Voldemort and talking like it was a drink of tea, as spells went past him and he didn't even dodge them. It's style and he did it like a BOSS. He is one of 2 Wizards (Him and Voldemort) who can go invisible without a spell and a Invisibility cloak.

It's not baseless that Dumbledore is a master of charms, spells, spell creation, etc. Disagree? Show me where the book says he is not. J.K rowling never mentioned him being a master of water, yet he can manipulate and swish water around at his will.

Dumbledore and Voldemort win here.

@Rumble Man

when's this?

Voldemort cast a Disillusionment Charm to conceal himself from anyone watching from Hogwarts Castle when he arrived to rob Albus Dumbledore's tomb; the Disillusionment Charm worked so well that even he could not see himself (DH24).

Why do you make a thread if you think it's an instant stomp for one team? That's a spite thread that's made to troll.

@Dredeuced said:

Why do you make a thread if you think it's an instant stomp for one team? That's a spite thread that's made to troll.

This is why I like trolls like you.

Im correcting him, not saying who wins or not. I said in aeras of them mastering Spells and charms they win.

@Kingjohnrocks:

Can they withstand getting punched by anyone with super-strength without the aid of magic?

Powerful does not mean physically strong or durable

hulk can see astral forms and has resisted spells from the likes of Strange in wwh

Master of spells does not means that he knows every single one in the book

book or movies?

@Rumble Man said:

@Kingjohnrocks:

Can they withstand getting punched by anyone with super-strength without the aid of magic?

Powerful does not mean physically strong or durable

hulk can see astral forms and has resisted spells from the likes of Strange in wwh

Master of spells does not means that he knows every single one in the book

book or movies?

1. They wouldn't get punched due to invisibility.

2. I say teleporting around at instant is pretty durable.

3. Invisibility isn't astral. Infact the word Astral isn't even mentioned in the books. The books say invisibility and not astral. Also, Strange's spells are much different then HP's spells. Let's not wander off to other characters, no indication that AK couldn't work on him, neither is there indication of Dumbledore flooding Hogwarts and encasing Hulk in a bubble of water and then freezing it, no indication that he wouldn't do that.

4. It means you know most/alot of them.

5. Books.

@Kingjohnrocks:

They would get punched, invisible =/= intangible

teleporting does not give one the ability to take (not dodge) a punch to the face from a super strong hero/villain

water then freeze? when was this done

Got a list?

@Kingjohnrocks said:

@Dredeuced said:

Why do you make a thread if you think it's an instant stomp for one team? That's a spite thread that's made to troll.

This is why I like trolls like you.

Im correcting him, not saying who wins or not. I said in aeras of them mastering Spells and charms they win.

You specifically said "Voldemort and Dumbledore win here" and you frequently make these Harry Potter wank battles. Making crappy threads is why people had a problem with you the first time.

@Rumble Man said:

@Kingjohnrocks:

They would get punched, invisible =/= intangible

teleporting does not give one the ability to take (not dodge) a punch to the face from a super strong hero/villain

water then freeze? when was this done

Got a list?

1. Invisibile would be apart of the prep. Hulk would not see them.

2. They can teleport at instant, Hulk must run up to them to punch them, the moment he makes a move of agression they both teleport behind him.

3. Simple, since JK Rowling never said ANYTHING about Dumbledore mastering water (even though he has done all water spells throughout the book series), and he used a hydrokenetic spell, this leads me to believe Dumbledore, being a master of charms and having used a freezing charm before would have NO problem doing his hydrokenetic spell around Hulk's face/body, then casting a freezing charm onto it. Taken from a JK rowling handbook:

When Dumbledore immobilizes Harry, the latter says, in wondering how it could have happened, that it was a Freezing Charm (Dumbledore had done so wandlessly and nonverbally). However, less than a few pages later, after Dumbledore is killed he notes that the Full Body-Bind had lifted

A list of spells? I'l do my best.

It is so big that I'l send it to you in PM

@Kingjohnrocks: There is a chance that hulk might be tapped with the uni-power during prep y'know

@Rumble Man said:

Albus is a weak link here.

Aw hell no. Even tom was scared of him. He's better in the reflex department..

Btw, you can saftely assume that spells used by harry/ron/hermoine are known to the duo, they were mostly school stuff and compared to the trio, Tom and Albus did leagues better in school. Not invented spells like sectumsempra maybe, but simpler ones like reducto etc..

@Rumble Man said:

@Kingjohnrocks: There is a chance that hulk might be tapped with the uni-power during prep y'know

A chance, not a 100% chance. Plus why would he get uni power? He'd probably think they are puny humans that "Hulk smash!"

@Kingjohnrocks: He did get it once before

@PrinceAragorn1: Scared because he was cautious, not worried.

Albus only has 1 life

Voldy has 7

@Rumble Man: Well, we saw how badly he owned tom in the duel. And his plan ultimately beat tom's as well.. He should be cautious lol.. When voldemort was hit by a killing spell, he was turned into a Ghost thing and was unable to return without pattigrew's help. If he's smashed, it will mean he's unable to fight. (As long as Albus doesn't help him somehow)

Is there any reason to assume that an Avada Kedvra would not instantly kill Hulk? All evidence from the Harry Potter books and movies points towards there being no way to physically resist the curse; in the few instances in which a person has survived the killing curse, that person was shielded by powerful magic.

@PrinceAragorn1: Albus in character here?

because if he is the battle would be an awesome team up of wizard and hulk

@coltnelson: How 'exactly' does this curse kill people

@Rumble Man: No idea.. Not the op.

@PrinceAragorn1: Says "Morals on, Bloodlust off"

Does hulk have any kind of magical resistance? Has he resisted some kind of magic before? (Or he's like superman, too..)

@Rumble Man: IIRC it leaves the body completely intact, so physical resistance has nothing to do with it. If someone has magical resistance, though.. Considering it took about half a dozen wizard to stun a dragon because of the "ancient protection in it's scales", and once fawkes eating it and being reborn, I'd say magical beings with a good amount of magic are unaffected. (So you either need to be a magical being, or have a mystic force rangers armor) Otherwise, it has been blocked by non living objects such as a desk, or stone walls before. (I never knew why clothes didn't stop it.. :o )

@PrinceAragorn1: He's resisted strange before in WWH

ripped apart mystical barriers made of energy just using his hands alone.

broken the mystic bands of Cytorrak, something which shouldn't be physically possible to do,

Hulk obviously has some affect over the mystic, to what extent is unknown.

Hulk is traditionally very resistant to possession, and can see spirits.

@Rumble Man: Depends on how strong strange's magic was.. curses in hp like accio/impero can be resisted by any guy, but resisting avada kedavra need quite some resistance.

@PrinceAragorn1: Invoking elder gods and stuff, things beyond the scope of Rowling

@Rumble Man: Not what he can.. what he was doing at the time.. And not like comic elder Gods are Gods.. they're sort of beings.. they have only one God there.

@Rumble Man said:

@PrinceAragorn1: Invoking elder gods and stuff, things beyond the scope of Rowling

He wouldn't do that if he thought they were puny humans

!@PrinceAragorn1 No one has resisted Crucio,

@PrinceAragorn1: Jack Kirby is their god

they're sort of beings

the kind that would sh*t all over HPverse

@Kingjohnrocks:

Voldy ain't no puny human

@Rumble Man said:

@Kingjohnrocks:

Voldy ain't no puny human

Correct. But what if Hulk thought that?