No Prep.
Adult Loki & Current Superman(Versions)
Start 130 yards apart.
Battleground - Themyscira; unpopulated.
Morals apply.
Win is by KO.
Loki vs Superman
What fighting feats does Loki have to give him a chance against Supes? Aside from magic he doesn't have much edge over him...
Superman stomps if Superman doesnt have another power decrease. Gotta read the new supes tho. But currently yeah Superman takes it. He is faster and stronger.
Loki is a god?
Superman Punches him and what? Loki will just get back up and zap him into submission with magic.
How does Loki fair when Thor punches him? Because Superman's strongerAccording to who?
Superman from the DCNU has no feats yet. We do not even know if he has a vulnerability to magic.Well he does have something of a feat over all his predecessors. Underwear goes inside pants.
@Erik said:True.Superman from the DCNU has no feats yet. We do not even know if he has a vulnerability to magic.Well he does have something of a feat over all his predecessors. Underwear goes inside pants.
He also does get the Doomsday battle to his credit. But that is the only story that is confirmed to be canon for the new Superman to my knowledge.
True. He also does get the Doomsday battle to his credit. But that is the only story that is confirmed to be canon for the new Superman to my knowledge.DOS DD? Wonder if they are going to do anything with that then.
I know those DCnU art pieces look badass but you should really not use those unless you're talking about those versions of the characters.
@Erik said:Yes. That is the story arc. I imagine they will maybe do a short story that includes it in the new Superman's origin.True. He also does get the Doomsday battle to his credit. But that is the only story that is confirmed to be canon for the new Superman to my knowledge.DOS DD? Wonder if they are going to do anything with that then.
I know those DCnU art pieces look badass but you should really not use those unless you're talking about those versions of the characters.He does say current Superman, from what I can tell isn't quite the same guy anymore.
@Erik said:
Yes. That is the story arc. I imagine they will maybe do a short story that includes it in the new Superman's origin.That would be pretty nice actually.
Superman stomps if Superman doesnt have another power decrease. Gotta read the new supes tho. But currently yeah Superman takes it. He is faster and stronger.
It was confirmed somewhere (I don't remember) that after the reboot, that DC will get a serious power decrease.
@supermandefender said:Really? I never saw that. Hmmmm.......Superman stomps if Superman doesnt have another power decrease. Gotta read the new supes tho. But currently yeah Superman takes it. He is faster and stronger.It was confirmed somewhere (I don't remember) that after the reboot, that DC will get a serious power decrease.
@Enzeru said:
@Erik said:It was confirmed somewhere (I don't remember) that after the reboot, that DC will get a serious power decrease. Really? I never saw that. Hmmmm.......After check out the recent 52 stuff it really feels like it. Superman's arms got tired, while he was holding a van! His arms got tired! Of course, it was also stated, that he is getting stronger and stronger every day since his early beginnings (Action Comics), but still ... I wonder how strong he will become. The same goes for Flash. It looks like he is far more balanced out at the moment ant not able to be everywhere at the same time. However, I like it that way. Makes the things more interesting.
I am pretty confident that Superman was lying to try and scare them when he said that.
@Enzeru said:
@Erik said:Dunno. They changed his character indeed, but turning him into a liar? I don't know :-7 Superman never lies! Jimmy Olsen also stated that it seems like Superman is getting stronger and stronger since his early days, so it could be that he is still not on the level he will be in the future, but I understand your reasoning, because it was only a van with 2 or 3 people in it, so it shouldn't be so heavy for him, that he needs to drop it, if we think about what he managed to do in Action Comics #1.I am pretty confident that Superman was lying to try and scare them when he said that.
But getting tired over lifting a truck, even though it is years after being crushed by a bullet train, seems more reasonable? Jimmy saying Superman is getting visibly stronger every time only means that, not that a truck should be heavy for him. Especially when his strength feats from AC outperform lifting a truck. Besides, Lex also said Superman was is visibly stronger just months after Superman's first appearance. It is clear that both are just noting power growth.
Also, Superman has lied a few times in Post Crisis in order to get a win or make things easier.
@society619: Thor doesn't have a chance against supes.Batman only beat him because he had a "just in case" set ready.
@FourthDeity: Superman has been beaten by individuals that are more or less his equal. Thor is a God who has fought and defeated major cosmic enemies that are at least galaxy level threats. he's fought celestials, the void, galactus, silver surfer and other heralds, bor, odin's father who was stronger than an odinforce enhanced thor, glory (the legion of gods from chaos war), and most recently, he was able to kill angrir who was supposedly at thor's level of power. Supes is weak to magic, Thor's hammer is magic.Superman has no ability that would allow him to harm Thor. For all his strength and speed, he can't produce enough force to actually damage Thor.
Loki’s chance of winning is fighting dirty and since morals are on it could happen.
@society619: He has a "weakness" (I think him being vulnerable is a better word) against magic but that doesn't automatically equal a victory to Thor. Superman have a faster reaction time and speed.Thor can break the speed of light with is hammer but I don't know if he himself can go that fast.Superman always holds back. If he was about to die... what would he do? I'd say go all out.His hammer might be incredibly fast but Thor himself is not as fast as Superman.Superman's done just fine against other magic users such as Hercules,Captain Marvel,Adam,Magog, Wonder Woman, and other magic users. What exactly makes Thor's different?
@society619: Not worth bumping to comment on said 9 month old post, although an uninformed post to begin with. Though if someone else bumped it and their post was deleted, my apologize.
@FourthDeity said:
@society619: Thor doesn't have a chance against supes.Batman only beat him because he had a "just in case" set ready.
He stands more than a chance against this incarnation.
@society619 said:
@FourthDeity: Superman has been beaten by individuals that are more or less his equal. Thor is a God who has fought and defeated major cosmic enemies that are at least galaxy level threats. he's fought celestials, the void, galactus, silver surfer and other heralds, bor, odin's father who was stronger than an odinforce enhanced thor, glory (the legion of gods from chaos war), and most recently, he was able to kill angrir who was supposedly at thor's level of power. Supes is weak to magic, Thor's hammer is magic.Superman has no ability that would allow him to harm Thor. For all his strength and speed, he can't produce enough force to actually damage Thor.
Loki’s chance of winning is fighting dirty and since morals are on it could happen.
Being a God just allows Thor a bunch of random plot induced powers and a get out of jail free card in death. He's been punked out by Celestials, Galactus and the Void was giving him issues. The only reason he defeated Bor was the Odin Force at the time, otherwise Bor would have one shotted him in his own words. Angrir wasn't at Thor's level of power. Him taking on the Surfer, Glory and what have you are solid showings to pull for. Thor would probably demolish post 52 Supes, the problem is he isn't fighting him in this thread.
In regards to the actual thread, morals on a much weaker Superman against Loki isn't going to end well for him. He can certainly pummel Loki (stats wise, Loki's not in his league without some sort of enhancements) , but with morals Loki could potentially end this with any sort of decent spell.
what the hell is up with these frog statements ...... when is Loki gonna have time to transmute Clark into anything when he's getting blitzed .......
Loki. He could just zap Superman into some animal.
@LordStoop said:
Loki wins. This fight is Morals on. Superman won´t blitz Loki. His morals won´t allow it. Loki is on the other hand the god of mischief and lies. He can fight dirty. Frog Time.
@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek said:
Loki. He could just zap Superman into some animal.
stop being correct
Agree.Loki wins. This fight is Morals on. Superman won´t blitz Loki. His morals won´t allow it. Loki is on the other hand the god of mischief and lies. He can fight dirty. Frog Time.
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