Loki vs Flash

@Lance Uppercut said:

It most certainly does not.

Because I was thinking that with Morals off, the Flash would be able to win... In morals-on he would lose...

@Deadcool said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

It most certainly does not.

Because I was thinking that with Morals off, the Flash would be able to win... In morals-on he would lose...

Not the part I was being sassy about

Barry takes him for sure.

Wally can win too,but it would be more difficult.

Can the Flash effect Loki in astral form?

@bones309: Flash can force tangibility.

@sheenlantern said:

@bones309: Flash can force tangibility.

But Astral form is not intangibility…it's pretty much one's soul. Can the Flash make ones's soul tangible?

@bones309: Then he can just punch him to death.

How do you punch an astral form?

So he isn't tangible?

He is but it's not the same as the Manhunter's intangibility, I doubt he could see Loki unless Loki wanted and it's not a molecule trick that can just be countered with vibration. It's pretty much his spirit or soul. The future Flash in Kingdom Come was able to see and grab a person like this but that was due to existing on different planes of existence. Is there any showing of the modern day Flash effecting or seeing an astral form?

Flash stomps.

Here's something I've been wondering about the idea of "morals off", can for example in this fight….could Loki just bribe a moral-less Flash? Generally when it comes to "morals off" we think that they won't hold back…they'll kill and not care about innocent bystanders but doesn't having "morals off" add a great deal of issues? People could be easily seduced by many things without having the morals to resist. Just a thought on the idea of "morals off"

loki would stop time and kill flash end of story

Am I the only one who thinks the fact that there is a Flash Museum hurts him in prep. battles against strangers like this?

Loki won't know what hit him

Loki does have prep here. He could be invisible, intangible, in astral form, masking himself telepathically, etc.

mismatch,

Loki has prep, that means clones, invisibility, intangibility, astral form...etc are ON, Flash has no way of hurting him, Loki has also transmutation, TP, TK, binding, enchanting, cursing, switching souls,...etc Flash is so dead. Enough with the Flash wanking please this has gone too far.

According to Flash fanboys, Flash will just go back in time and kill Loki when he's just a baby.

@wenjun__chew:

Said no one...

Flash both rounds, especially round 2.

let me know when Flash can jump to another comic company and enter Asgard and get pass Heimdal's awareness

Loki....

Flash

Idk much about New 52 Barry. But Wally mainlined from the Speedforce. He cannot be cut off. It's essentially apart of him. With Barry's power in the speedforce (n52) idk if that's possible but it could be an option Dredeuced would know.

If Flash gives Loki one open move, it's done, but he most likely won't.

you mean Flash won't know what hit him.

he will since Loki has prep, that means he already has the first move

@all_mighty_beyonder: But prep doesn't mean Loki will have a "5 second head start", but just gathering info or anything for preparation for the battle. Both will battle and fight at the same time, just with a advanced mindset and material to the battlefield.

Flash

no, prep means Loki will get ready every way he needs to victory. That means he will be already using clones, shields, while his real self is intangible and invisible. That's the purpose of prep.

with this Flash has no way of hurting Loki, while Loki can easily beat Flash by transmutation, TP, TK, binding, enchanting, cursing, switching souls,...etc

flash bc fanboys don't know how powerful loki is and no matter how much scans and rational reasoning you post they're answer will be flash is fast.

@all_mighty_beyonder:

Hmm, never knew battlers can start using their equipment/powers and advance on their target during prep.

Question: Does he need to target his opponent in order to apply those abilities or can he freely use it without a given mark or area?

Not saying who would win right now, just curious.

I'd say prep. equals them being ready for battle before hand. So Loki can use magic on himself first but not against the Flash.

I've seen Loki effect people/objects with magic without being on the same planet but I don't know how much if at all he needs them to be still. I assume that's your point given the Flash's powers.

@shadovvlite:

like @bones309 said, in prep characters can use whatever powers and equipements on themselves, but can't use them on their enemies.

that means Loki will be already using astral projection, clones, shields, intangiblity and invisiblity before the battle begins.

the red rubber gets wrecked! Loki FTW!

Loki wins round one but loses round two

Barry edges out round 1 and wally takes round 2

This is an interesting battle. If Loki were being intelligent, he might actually be able to pull a win here. Between invisibility, astral projection, force fields, invisibility, and some form(s) of power cancellation.

To top it off, Loki has 2 days prep. Which means he could literally be anyone on the planet at the time this battle begins, and can easily have a few clones or superhumans running around in his aid during that time. While I have on doubt Flash is smart enough to figure this out, the question will really be whether or not his powers will still be functioning in full force. Loki is superhumanly fast, I believe he's supersonic (I'd have to check) and has been stated as such in the past.

The biggest advantages I see here are going to be his force fields, and his ability to affect multiple power sets. Combine that with his prep, which can be used in any number of clever ways (shapeshifting, creating superhumans, creating clones, invisibility, becoming an astral being, gaining knowledge on his opponent's abilities) that might be able to topple the Flash.

Without prep, I'd say he has no chance. But realistically there isn't much any Flash can do with their prep, and there is quite a bit Loki could do. Because of that, I think Loki starts this battle with quite the upperhand. The real question is though, is it enough?

I'll go Devil's Advocate and say Loki.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Should be fairly obvious Loki is a PREP God. No way Barry wins this. Loki has dozens if ways to offset the speed and speed force steal. How can Loki do anything when Barry will punch him before flash hits him??? Really? Lol sigh...from the start Barry will be attacking a clone or illusion. This is in character for Loki. How does Barry Allen see or even register Loki is the better question. Soul form magic sheilds, transmutation, invisibility, phasing, illusions. And tons of others. He is physically supior smarter/more cunning. Loki would be the guy who finds a way to use Barry's own speed against him..I'm a fan of Barry he is my favorite flash but he's not beating Loki especially with two days prep!!! ..gives old thread life again...breathe... Breathe damn you..

@zetsumoto

@never_give_up: won't be Barry he will.be to busy running in circles hitting phantoms before getting turned into snow or a flash frog.. Well could happen lol

Don't know if you're serious or trolling.

@never_give_up: lol neither

The Flash