The main man against a vicious b@stard that's as narrow minded as Darkseid, Mongul, Thanos, Dr.Doom, and the Joker.
Lobo vs Apocalypse
"and i heard that apocalypse can make himself stronger too"
You mean enhance his strength?
"and i heard that apocalypse can make himself stronger too"
Well, than can you tell me why he ran from Namor when he threw a coffee table at Apoc, instead of making himself stronger, he chose to run?
"claws said:Nobody eff's with namor he's the man"lordraiden said:"claws said:"and i heard that apocalypse can make himself stronger too"
Well, than can you tell me why he ran from Namor when he threw a coffee table at Apoc, instead of making himself stronger, he chose to run?"
did that really happen"
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but the main man wins
claws
said:
"lordraiden said:"claws said:"and i heard that apocalypse can make himself stronger too"
Well, than can you tell me why he ran from Namor when he threw a coffee table at Apoc, instead of making himself stronger, he chose to run?"
did that really happen"
Wow. That's a whole lot of PIS. Where's that from?
Apocalypse wins.
No he does not.
I don't think he ran from Namor just because he threw a table at him lol, they were in the ocean and if that water came in Namor would be unstoppable... but I don't know a whole lot about Lobo to be able to cast a vote.
Lobo. Consistently more impressive.
lobo can't hurt him people want to bring up the namor table thing but lobo was chocked out by batman but that's pis and so was the table so if you use it I can use lobo getting beat down by batman in a hand to hand fight if batman can choke lobo out than so can Apocalypse.
not to mention apocalypse can turn to gas or phase what is lobo going to do then nothing and Apocalypse can increase his strength to no known limits until he is overpowered we can assume it's limitless he is stronger than thor and a mildly pissed off hulk for sure so he is stronger than lobo and he can do everything his horsemen can including matter manipulation and he can recover just as good as lobo.
neither can permanently kill the other but apocalypse can knock lobo out easier.
and yes he does.
Is arguably close to Superman's level (someone who Apocalypse is not even in the same league).
Not to mention Apocalypse can't really do anything to hurt Lobo while Lobo can arguably throw Apocalypse across the world!
Don't get he wrong I like Apocalypse just as much as you do (and I do hope that he does get a damn good power up one day) but he's not winning this, nabby with some prep but not in a random encounter.
we can't say lobo is stronger because we have never seen Apocalypse's full strength we know he is stronger than thor and savage hulk who are both on lobo's level and for every low showing Apocalypse has lobo has a showing just as low or lower.
Apocalypse lowest showings are against loki and namor well and Cyclops granted that was just to give x-factor the win. lobo's lowest showing is against batman and deathstroke most would say loki and namor would own batman and deathstroke and again how does lobo throw someone if they go intangible oh and apocalypse can teleport and fly and his tecnopathy would probably allow him to control lobo's bike and he has force fields and he can mimic adamantium density .
I can see how you can get lobo as the winner because he loses less but that's not because he is more powerful but because he is a neutral character and not a real villain lobo can stalemate or just leave and the story will not be harmed but Apocalypse has to lose for the story to have a happy ending.
and yes he does.
Is arguably close to Superman's level (someone who Apocalypse is not even in the same league).
Not to mention Apocalypse can't really do anything to hurt Lobo while Lobo can arguably throw Apocalypse across the world!
Don't get he wrong I like Apocalypse just as much as you do (and I do hope that he does get a damn good power up one day) but he's not winning this, nabby with some prep but not in a random encounter.
Apocalypse doesn't need a power upgrade. He needs writers to stop treating him like a joke and actually use him to his full potential. Just my opinion.
@dwrathborne: Agree
I'd like to say Apoc if he uses his abilities to the fullest. Lobo can't counter intangibility, has a weakness to gas, and Apocalypse is like Thanos-lite for the X-Men.
Before I begin to argue is this classic apocalypse that we are talking about? That whole Namor thing was pis due to the fact apoc has fought lots of times better than that and should have stomped Namor!
claws
said:
"and i heard that apocalypse can make himself stronger too"
Well, than can you tell me why he ran from Namor when he threw a coffee table at Apoc, instead of making himself stronger, he chose to run?
That was a low showing of Apocalypse but I can give you consistant showings of classic Apocalypse's powers... You guys underrate him a lot... The whole table page as you well should know was full of pis!! Now if Apocalypse can take blasts from Cyclopse, Black Bolt, a tk attack from Jean Grey (blood lusted) then how the heck would a table stop him? Namor had to win someway and since they made it where Apoc was stronger than him, he had to win by doing some thing, which was that for a happy ending.... Imo Apoc can beat Lobo and I shall give my reasons why
Again...I said this in the other threads Apocalypse vs Superman and Thor and I'll say it against Lobo. People don't really know how powerful Apocalypse really is. He would give Superman and Thor all they could handle and would do the same for Lobo. If anything it would be stalemate on Apocalypse's worse day. I personally would like to know how Lobo would defeat Apocalypse. Personally, I think the Apocalypse could somehow make Lobo into one of his horseman.
"we can't say lobo is stronger because we have never seen Apocalypse's full strength we know he is stronger than thor and savage hulk who are both on lobo's level and for every low showing Apocalypse has lobo has a showing just as low or lower.
Apocalypse lowest showings are against loki and namor well and Cyclops granted that was just to give x-factor the win. lobo's lowest showing is against batman and deathstroke most would say loki and namor would own batman and deathstroke and again how does lobo throw someone if they go intangible oh and apocalypse can teleport and fly and his tecnopathy would probably allow him to control lobo's bike and he has force fields and he can mimic adamantium density .
I can see how you can get lobo as the winner because he loses less but that's not because he is more powerful but because he is a neutral character and not a real villain lobo can stalemate or just leave and the story will not be harmed but Apocalypse has to lose for the story to have a happy ending."
Pretty much. Just based off his powers and abilities alone I don't see how any one person can beat the Apocalypse outside of the cosmic beings like Thanos, Surfer, etc. Or perhaps a supreme sorcerer like Dr. Doom. I think my boy Magneto can stall him temporarily when he's at full power, but that's about as far as it's going. Then if you would include his four horseman...he's damn near unstoppable. In a sense, Apocalypse is too powerful so they comic writers have to dumb down his powers. In a similar fashion, when they (the people vote) had Wolverine beating Lobo in the DC vs Marvel crossover, I ask myself...how? How does Lobo beat the Apocalypse? lol
@rod1949us: one person wasn't meant to beat him.
@rod1949us: at his lowest as we've seen, he ducked from a thrown light object from Namor. Lobo could take that version. At his best obviously Apocalypse wins.
Is Lobo TP resistant? I don't think he'd do well against Despero's TP which should be at a similar level to Apoc's (just a guess).
@thanofleeze: he's highly resistant. Despero along with help from other aliens couldn't mind control him.
@tifalockhart: Then goodnight Apoc...
Is Lobo TP resistant? I don't think he'd do well against Despero's TP which should be at a similar level to Apoc's (just a guess).
Apocalypse doesnt have telepathy. Atleast thats what ive seen the mods debunking lately.
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