#1 Posted by BigCimmerian (7559 posts) - - Show Bio

- Pre Flashpoint versions of DC, current Thor

- No prep, standard equipment, everyone is bloodlusted

- Who wins and why?

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#2 Edited by dondave (26546 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

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#3 Edited by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1. Thor is the weak link.

#4 Posted by SheenLantern (5315 posts) - - Show Bio

This is one of those -Any of Team X could beat any of Team Y in 1v1 so what is the point- scenarios.

#5 Edited by dorukesin (3727 posts) - - Show Bio
#6 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (10235 posts) - - Show Bio

team one, if Orion were to BFR Lobo though...he and Thor would probably end up winning.

#7 Posted by SheenLantern (5315 posts) - - Show Bio

@bigcimmerian: Does Lobo's spacehog constitute standard equipment?

#8 Edited by czarny_samael666 (16629 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 thanks to Thor...

Much more powers than others, magic lightnings, Mjolnir, better strength, durability and fight feats than others.

#9 Posted by Edude117 (349 posts) - - Show Bio

Team two. Thor may not be as fast as Superman and have as much tech as Lobo, but he's got very powerful magic which'll hurt Supes pretty bad.

#10 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (10235 posts) - - Show Bio

and the bullsh*t begins

#11 Posted by IheartZombies92 (2197 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Loboman

#12 Edited by Pope052 (2579 posts) - - Show Bio
@czarny_samael666 said:

Team 2 thanks to Thor...

Much more powers than others, magic lightnings, Mjolnir, better strength, durability and fight feats than others.

But lacks speed, a critical factor when going against opponents who can either exceed or rival you in everything else.

Thor gets stomped.

#13 Posted by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

i'll say again. team 1 BECAUSE of Thor...whos on team 2.

#WeakLink

lol

#14 Posted by SheenLantern (5315 posts) - - Show Bio

i'll say again. team 1 BECAUSE of Thor...whos on team 2.

#WeakLink

lol

That made me laugh.

#15 Posted by Lvenger (15989 posts) - - Show Bio

and the bullsh*t begins

I'm staying out of it this time. I've done enough 'debating' on this particular issue. But I second your sentiment.

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#16 Edited by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

@foreverevil said:

i'll say again. team 1 BECAUSE of Thor...whos on team 2.

#WeakLink

lol

That made me laugh.

haha, thanks

#17 Posted by DeathandGrim (1928 posts) - - Show Bio

Orion is holding Thor up here...

Team 1

#18 Edited by czarny_samael666 (16629 posts) - - Show Bio

@pope052 said:
@czarny_samael666 said:

Team 2 thanks to Thor...

Much more powers than others, magic lightnings, Mjolnir, better strength, durability and fight feats than others.

But lacks speed, a critical factor when going against opponents who can either exceed or rival you in everything else.

Thor gets stomped.

This is not "out of character" fight, speed wouldn't matter, since Superman didn't use it against most of his slower enemies.

#19 Posted by Experio (8001 posts) - - Show Bio

@pope052: But Thor has greater power than both Superman and Lobo combined as well as more powers (including those he rarely uses), thats one stat team 1 cannot rival. Power can easily counter speed especially with one of the most powerful focus of the Odinforce which expands to various of techniques, Thor also has great reaction speed.

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#20 Posted by Pope052 (2579 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666:

It's one of Superman's abilities, which involves nanosecond reaction speed. Just because he doesn't use it in a fight, doesn't mean he won't. It's like people try to ignore what a character could possibly do just because they don't do it often enough.

Especially when blood-lusted he won't hold back, he'll dash straight for Thor faster than Thor can even imagine to react to and have the advantage from there on out.

#21 Posted by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

@pope052 said:

@czarny_samael666:

It's one of Superman's abilities, which involves nanosecond reaction speed. Just because he doesn't use it in a fight, doesn't mean he won't. It's like people try to ignore what a character could possibly do just because they don't do it often enough.

Especially when blood-lusted he won't hold back, he'll dash straight for Thor faster than Thor can even imagine to react to and have the advantage from there on out.

its one of supermans abilities. if he woudlnt use it when its so obvious that thor is slower than him that'd be PIS and against the rules. NO PIS CIS OR WIS in the battle forums as per rules

#22 Edited by czarny_samael666 (16629 posts) - - Show Bio

@pope052 said:

@czarny_samael666:

It's one of Superman's abilities, which involves nanosecond reaction speed. Just because he doesn't use it in a fight, doesn't mean he won't. It's like people try to ignore what a character could possibly do just because they don't do it often enough.

Especially when blood-lusted he won't hold back, he'll dash straight for Thor faster than Thor can even imagine to react to and have the advantage from there on out.

its one of supermans abilities. if he woudlnt use it when its so obvious that thor is slower than him that'd be PIS and against the rules. NO PIS CIS OR WIS in the battle forums as per rules

It would be and it always is CIS, which isn't against the rules. Only PIS is. And Superman doesn't use nanosecond reaction speed in his battles as much as Thor doesn't start with Infinity Vortex around him commanding storms to destroy planets around him, which he can do.

#23 Posted by Pope052 (2579 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666:

What's stopping Superman from dashing into Thor before he can react?

#24 Posted by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

@pope052 said:

@czarny_samael666:

What's stopping Superman from dashing into Thor before he can react?

nothing. this is a stomp. only delusions will keep people from saying team 1 stomps

#25 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (21276 posts) - - Show Bio

@foreverevil said:

@pope052 said:

@czarny_samael666:

It's one of Superman's abilities, which involves nanosecond reaction speed. Just because he doesn't use it in a fight, doesn't mean he won't. It's like people try to ignore what a character could possibly do just because they don't do it often enough.

Especially when blood-lusted he won't hold back, he'll dash straight for Thor faster than Thor can even imagine to react to and have the advantage from there on out.

its one of supermans abilities. if he woudlnt use it when its so obvious that thor is slower than him that'd be PIS and against the rules. NO PIS CIS OR WIS in the battle forums as per rules

It would be and it always is CIS, which isn't against the rules. Only PIS is. And Superman doesn't use nanosecond reaction speed in his battles as much as Thor doesn't start with Infinity Vortex around him commanding storms to destroy planets around him, which he can do.

Actually no.

Superman rarely uses his speed offensively. This is done for plot, to prolong the story and make it interesting (though it can also be said that it's a part of his character and not done solely because it benefits the story). In comics, Superman doesn’t kill. He does not spare his enemies because of the plot, he spares them because it’s part of his character not to kill thanks to how he was raised. In battles on the forum we include CIS, but not PIS, so Superman uses his speed but generally doesn’t kill unless otherwise stated. (“Bloodlust”)

Battle forum rules says Superman does not use his speed because of PIS. So yes he would speed blitz Thor to infinity and beyond.

#26 Posted by TheMagicStik (948 posts) - - Show Bio

The power tier in this goes something like this Lobo>Orion>Superman>Thor. Orion is a complete match for Superman as far as physical attributes go but he also has the Astroforce which gives him an advantage. Lobo is often depicted as stronger than Superman not to mention his healing factor and his ability to infinitely clone himself. Then we get to Thor who might be argueably (based upon the one 1970s serpent lifting feat) as strong as Superman and argueably as durable, is not even 1/1000 of Supermans speed which is everything in a fight. Honestly take Superman out and Lobo still probably wins, he just duplicates himself 20 times and then not even the strongest of magic is going to help Thor or Orion.

#27 Edited by Experio (8001 posts) - - Show Bio

@themagicstik:

@pope052:

Speed is not everything in battle but even so, Thor's reaction speed can kick in (notice they would be face to face here)

If thats not convincing enough than power cancels speed, power such as Thor's lightning which he can emit from his body.

So it would be a really bad idea if Clark tried to speed-blitz

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#28 Posted by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

LMAO^

#29 Posted by eternityx (2083 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.

Thor takes Superman, Orion takes Lobo.

#30 Posted by SheenLantern (5315 posts) - - Show Bio

LMAO^

#31 Posted by BigCimmerian (7559 posts) - - Show Bio

The power tier in this goes something like this Lobo>Orion>Superman>Thor. Orion is a complete match for Superman as far as physical attributes go but he also has the Astroforce which gives him an advantage. Lobo is often depicted as stronger than Superman not to mention his healing factor and his ability to infinitely clone himself. Then we get to Thor who might be argueably (based upon the one 1970s serpent lifting feat) as strong as Superman and argueably as durable, is not even 1/1000 of Supermans speed which is everything in a fight. Honestly take Superman out and Lobo still probably wins, he just duplicates himself 20 times and then not even the strongest of magic is going to help Thor or Orion.

He doesn't have duplication powers here.

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#32 Edited by Jbourne_32 (488 posts) - - Show Bio

@foreverevil:

Whats so funny about that, mjolnir goes at ftl speeds

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#33 Edited by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

@foreverevil:

Whats so funny about that, mjolnir goes at ftl speeds

and my car goes 150 mph...so?

#34 Edited by Jmarshmallow (2716 posts) - - Show Bio

So much disrespect for Thor in this thread.

Jmarshmallow

#35 Edited by XiiX (4758 posts) - - Show Bio

team one, if Orion were to BFR Lobo though...he and Thor would probably end up winning.

#36 Edited by XiiX (4758 posts) - - Show Bio

@jmarshmallow: Hey, something's gotta balance out the claims of him being some sort of Superman-Dr.Fate hybrid who goes around casually harming skyfathers and oneshotting Hulk level opponents regularly.

#37 Posted by Bo88gdan (4374 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor & Orion

#38 Edited by Jbourne_32 (488 posts) - - Show Bio

@foreverevil: so superman is as fast as your car, really helping your case

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#39 Edited by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

@foreverevil: so superman is as fast as your car, really helping your case

??? Youre confused buddy. Let me help you out.

First you said "Whats so funny about that, mjolnir goes at ftl speeds "

THEN I responded by saying "and my car goes 150 mph...so?"

Now youre saying that I'm saying Superman is as fast as my car???

Read our conversation over again cause you seem to have got lost.

#40 Posted by Jbourne_32 (488 posts) - - Show Bio

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil: so superman is as fast as your car, really helping your case

??? Youre confused buddy. Let me help you out.

First you said "Whats so funny about that, mjolnir goes at ftl speeds "

THEN I responded by saying "and my car goes 150 mph...so?"

Now youre saying that I'm saying Superman is as fast as my car???

Read our conversation over again cause you seem to have got lost.

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#41 Posted by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

@foreverevil said:

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil: so superman is as fast as your car, really helping your case

??? Youre confused buddy. Let me help you out.

First you said "Whats so funny about that, mjolnir goes at ftl speeds "

THEN I responded by saying "and my car goes 150 mph...so?"

Now youre saying that I'm saying Superman is as fast as my car???

Read our conversation over again cause you seem to have got lost.

Thought so

#42 Posted by Jbourne_32 (488 posts) - - Show Bio

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil said:

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil: so superman is as fast as your car, really helping your case

??? Youre confused buddy. Let me help you out.

First you said "Whats so funny about that, mjolnir goes at ftl speeds "

THEN I responded by saying "and my car goes 150 mph...so?"

Now youre saying that I'm saying Superman is as fast as my car???

Read our conversation over again cause you seem to have got lost.

Thought so

Happy you realize that

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#43 Posted by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

@foreverevil said:

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil said:

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil: so superman is as fast as your car, really helping your case

??? Youre confused buddy. Let me help you out.

First you said "Whats so funny about that, mjolnir goes at ftl speeds "

THEN I responded by saying "and my car goes 150 mph...so?"

Now youre saying that I'm saying Superman is as fast as my car???

Read our conversation over again cause you seem to have got lost.

Thought so

Happy you realize that

are you trolling or do you seriously not understand that youre lost?

#44 Posted by Jbourne_32 (488 posts) - - Show Bio

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil said:

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil said:

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil: so superman is as fast as your car, really helping your case

??? Youre confused buddy. Let me help you out.

First you said "Whats so funny about that, mjolnir goes at ftl speeds "

THEN I responded by saying "and my car goes 150 mph...so?"

Now youre saying that I'm saying Superman is as fast as my car???

Read our conversation over again cause you seem to have got lost.

Thought so

Happy you realize that

are you trolling or do you seriously not understand that youre lost?

Im evading the point.. and so are you. I asked a question, and you gave me some crap about your car, how am i supposed to react to that? If you want to answer sure, if not, dont be a smart ass about it.

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#45 Edited by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

@foreverevil said:

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil said:

Thought so

Happy you realize that

are you trolling or do you seriously not understand that youre lost?

Im evading the point.. and so are you. I asked a question, and you gave me some crap about your car, how am i supposed to react to that? If you want to answer sure, if not, dont be a smart ass about it.

Im not evading isht. You said that mjolnir is ftl speeds and i said my car goes 150mph. do you honestly not know WHY i said that????

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#47 Posted by Jbourne_32 (488 posts) - - Show Bio

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil said:

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil said:

Thought so

Happy you realize that

are you trolling or do you seriously not understand that youre lost?

Im evading the point.. and so are you. I asked a question, and you gave me some crap about your car, how am i supposed to react to that? If you want to answer sure, if not, dont be a smart ass about it.

Im not evading isht. You said that mjolnir is ftl speeds and i said my car goes 150mph. do you honestly not know WHY i said that????

because you wanted try and sound smart

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#48 Posted by ForeverEvil (4788 posts) - - Show Bio

@foreverevil said:

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil said:

@jbourne_32 said:

@foreverevil said:

Thought so

Happy you realize that

are you trolling or do you seriously not understand that youre lost?

Im evading the point.. and so are you. I asked a question, and you gave me some crap about your car, how am i supposed to react to that? If you want to answer sure, if not, dont be a smart ass about it.

Im not evading isht. You said that mjolnir is ftl speeds and i said my car goes 150mph. do you honestly not know WHY i said that????

because you wanted try and sound smart

EHHH...WRONG. Because its irrelevant.

#49 Posted by Pope052 (2579 posts) - - Show Bio

@jbourne_32:

(Sigh)

He was using the speed of his car as an example to show that (even if) Mjolnir being FTL is nothing to Superman.

#50 Edited by Jbourne_32 (488 posts) - - Show Bio

@foreverevil: Okay... but it is important, thor's speed is the reason most people put him below superman, but that scan showed that he could react to a superman speedblitz. Also, I didnt mean to sound like a jerk, I just cant stand people who dont answer straight... it makes me fell dumb :(

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