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We know that LT can contrel the Infinity Gems when not in unisen, and whether or not he can actually defeat someone with the IG, ie Warlock, is debatable, even though most put LT above the IG, how would he fair against Nemesis, whom the Gems are actually from and are a part of, since the seventh gem, the Ego gem, contains her consciousness, she would be a step up from an IG bearer, I take it! So, what would happen if Nemesis went head to head with LT for control of the MU? 
 

 
 
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On the power scale, LT is directly below TOAA. 
  
He is well established, not some character made to explain a stupid plot device. 
 
'Nuf said.    
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#4  Edited By King_Saturn
Living Tribunal wins
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#5  Edited By spekqj

Personally, I think Nemesis has good chance to be stalemate against  LT only if infinity gems do not irritate each other during the fight. 

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#6  Edited By Matezoide2

LT stomps
 
has everyone forgot what he did to Adam Warlock when he had the gems?

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#7  Edited By spekqj
@Matezoide: Yes, LT does very impressive work in that series, but LT states himself that he's not sure if he can surpass the IG.  
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#8  Edited By geraldthesloth
@spekqj said:
" @Matezoide: Yes, LT does very impressive work in that series, but LT states himself that he's not sure if he can surpass the IG.   "
And than he renders the gauntlet useless.
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@geraldthesloth said:
" @spekqj said:
" @Matezoide: Yes, LT does very impressive work in that series, but LT states himself that he's not sure if he can surpass the IG.   "
And than he renders the gauntlet useless. "

lol
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#10  Edited By SpidermanPrimeZ
@geraldthesloth said:
" @spekqj said:
" @Matezoide: Yes, LT does very impressive work in that series, but LT states himself that he's not sure if he can surpass the IG.   "
And than he renders the gauntlet useless. "

Exactly. The LT is definately more powerful than the IG. But nemesis, as the living embodiment of seven gems, may prove far more difficult. Nonetheless, I think the LT clinches it.  
Has there ever been such an immense battle shown in marvel?
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#12  Edited By Lance Bastro
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#13  Edited By czarny_samael666

Nemesis.

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Nemesis feats?
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#15  Edited By czarny_samael666
@CapitolPunishment said:
@czarny_samael: Nemesis feats?
Creating Living Tribunal.
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@czarny_samael said:
@CapitolPunishment said:
@czarny_samael: Nemesis feats?
Creating Living Tribunal.

The creation of the abstracts was shown in a completely different comic arc years before Nemesis and that being was just referred to as the "Infinity being". The “Infinity being” that was shown in that Thanos arc looked nothing like Nemesis. Was it ever stated on panel that these were the same being? Or did the IG gems just form a conscious of their own and create Nemesis? I think they are two different being all together.

Nemesis was made during a crossover between Malibu and Marvel and this was the only time it was shown, if they are the same and hold the same power set I can see it defeating the LT but I have not seen any proof of this.

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#17  Edited By lord_galactus
Doom says 
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Living Tribunal

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#19  Edited By Lance Bastro
@lord_galactus said:
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#20  Edited By Lance Bastro
@lord_galactus said:

Doom says 
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 damn right i'm mad!
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#21  Edited By lord_galactus
@Lance Bastro said:
@lord_galactus said:

Doom says 
Doom says 
 damn right i'm mad!
 damn right i'm mad!
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#22  Edited By Assman
@geraldthesloth said:
@spekqj said:
" @Matezoide: Yes, LT does very impressive work in that series, but LT states himself that he's not sure if he can surpass the IG.   "
And than he renders the gauntlet useless.
I believe that he was asked to do so, their was no resistance.  I believe the point is, that should a user competent enough like Warlock, who wasn't actually as good with the IG as Thanos, chooses to not relinquish the IG, then the LT will have a fight on his hands, and the only way he can render it powerless, is if he wins, if that makes sense?
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#23  Edited By Assman
@czarny_samael said:
@CapitolPunishment said:
@czarny_samael: Nemesis feats?
Creating Living Tribunal.
I don't believe LT's creation had anything to do with Nemesis?
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#24  Edited By Cort
@Assman said:
@czarny_samael said:
@CapitolPunishment said:
@czarny_samael: Nemesis feats?
Creating Living Tribunal.
I don't believe LT's creation had anything to do with Nemesis?

The Infinity Being created  Living Tribunal as well as all the cosmic abstracts with the original Big Bang
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#25  Edited By Boobster
@Cort said:
@Assman said:
@czarny_samael said:
@CapitolPunishment said:
@czarny_samael: Nemesis feats?
Creating Living Tribunal.
I don't believe LT's creation had anything to do with Nemesis?
The Infinity Being created  Living Tribunal as well as all the cosmic abstracts with the original Big Bang
Then how then LT negated the gauntlet which is exactly Nemesis minus Ego gem ?
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#26  Edited By Cort
@Boobster said:
@Cort said:
@Assman said:
@czarny_samael said:
@CapitolPunishment said:
@czarny_samael: Nemesis feats?
Creating Living Tribunal.
I don't believe LT's creation had anything to do with Nemesis?
The Infinity Being created  Living Tribunal as well as all the cosmic abstracts with the original Big Bang
Then how then LT negated the gauntlet which is exactly Nemesis minus Ego gem ?

He came as a representative of TOAA.
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#27  Edited By czarny_samael666
@Boobster said:
@Cort said:
@Assman said:
@czarny_samael said:
@CapitolPunishment said:
@czarny_samael: Nemesis feats?
Creating Living Tribunal.
I don't believe LT's creation had anything to do with Nemesis?
The Infinity Being created  Living Tribunal as well as all the cosmic abstracts with the original Big Bang
Then how then LT negated the gauntlet which is exactly Nemesis minus Ego gem ?
It isn't. Nemesis with only Ego Gem and IG won't be as powerfull as she was. She would have to have all IGs from all dimensions.
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#28  Edited By Thor's hammmer

stalemate?
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Nemesis has multiversal power as long as I know. LT's power is beyond multiversal level. He is more powerful than the rest of Marvel combined except for HOTU or TOAA. 

Its something like this: 
 
Living Tribunal > Multi-Eternity 
 
Multi-Eternity = an infinite number of universes. 
 
Living Tribunal > an infinite number of universes. 
 
In summary, LT wins.
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#30  Edited By Amazingoctus
@geraldthesloth said:
@spekqj said:
" @Matezoide: Yes, LT does very impressive work in that series, but LT states himself that he's not sure if he can surpass the IG.   "
And than he renders the gauntlet useless.
Which doesn't exactly make him more powerful than the IG. If he had actually battled Thanos, Nebula or Warlock and overpowered them, then it would be out of question, but he didn't actually do anything impressive (like challenging one of them and defeating them). Think of a (very large and powerful) toy car (the IG), then think of the person (LT) holding a remote control. That person may not be able to control or stop the toy on their own, but with the remote control, they can do whatever they want with it. LT may have had something to shut the IG down.
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#31  Edited By Superskrull86

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#32  Edited By SpideyPresence

I bump this because i really want to know who wins.

Did Nemesis really create Living Tribunal and the Abstracts? If so does that mean she is directly below TOAA in power?

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#33  Edited By Perfect Cell

@lord_galactus said:

@Lance Bastro said:
@lord_galactus said:
Doom says
Doom says
damn right i'm mad!
damn right i'm mad!
LOL

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You know what I think. I think Nemises is the embodiemint of the gem and she's above everything except beyonder and TOAA. She created the celestrial but TOAA created Living tribunal a being created outside of her power which is above hers because TOAA is on a level outside of that reality. Similar to Beyonder.

So in other words if beyonder was vastly more powerful then living tribunal if he created a being to be his will it would be more powerful then the living tribunal because he's already on another level.

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@spekqj said:

" @Matezoide: Yes, LT does very impressive work in that series, but LT states himself that he's not sure if he can surpass the IG. "

And than he renders the gauntlet useless.

I don't believe he's ever rendered a working IG useless??

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@assman: What is comic ? And what is the image where he ask him ?

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Nemesis is on the level of the LT, she would give him a good fight but loose at in the end.

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Living Tribunal should win in a good fight.

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Would LT still win given his death at the hands of the Beyonders?

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LT.

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Living Tribunal.

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LT wins.

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nemesis wins providing she have her full powers

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Living Tribunal wins, but Living Tribunal is not a "he"; Living Tribunal has no gender.

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Living Tribunal> Infinity stones.

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Isn't Nemesis supposed to embody the entire creation of The One Above All, including the Living Tribunal...?

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I feel like The Living Tribunal was probably Created to replace Nemesis. Just my fan theory though. She was there before the multiverse so to speak. She had total dominion. She could apparently will anything into being and destroy it all. But, so can The Living Tribunal. They both have identical power sets. So, stalemate. I hope they go on a date.

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LT wins

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Infinity being stomps

Nemesis can give classic height of power LT problems but probable still go LT.

Lesser LT vs beyonders gets stomped

To me it's more like infinity being birthed omniverse and through it's death and creation a new TOAA cam into being. This TOAA then created LT