@nickzambuto@alessandro_souzamarques, Okay, if there ever was to come in a future CaV where Boyka was being used, then I'd hope that would be me, but regardless, Bone is one hell of an opponent and his skill and physical stats should put him on par with Boyka and Jet-Li, maybe except for speed with Jet-li, but that's not even by that much. I do want to see some of these 'bullet-timing' feats Jet-Li has.
Moving on, I do think that Bone wins. One of the main reasons as for why I do believe that is due to the fact that he holds one critical advantage, which you, Nick, have forgotten all about. That advantage is a type of body-reading move. He quickly studies his opponents' technique and he only needs to look at it for some few seconds, as shown against his fight against a Muay Thai artist, where he effortlessely takes out said artist. Here it is:
Skip to 0:07 (if the video doesn't start from that point), and you'll see that this guy was practicing some few Muay Thai kicks, and do not be fooled, this same guy executed his technique perfectely. He had his guard up (with his left hand) and he had his right arm straight, pointing it down on the ground to have the balance he needs for the kick, and Bone studied how he performed that technique and look at what he does to him at 0:31. This guy is a Muay Thai artist, and Muay Thai's versatility is insane. You can basically do anything in this martial art except for submissions.
Skip to 0:19 (unless it already starts from that point), and Bone studies a decent fighter's technique. I can tell that this guy is a decent fighter (at best) because he had his guard up and he made sure that he breathed more for every hit (so you don't get exhausted). He studies his move and what he does to him at 0:28 is just hilarious. Just to showcase that Bone won't have a problem tagging Boyka with his kicks, skip to 1:12, (unless you want to see that he took out 4-5 guys before that) and you'll see that he takes out 4 people with his kicks while being in the air. That's some serious speed right there, and I doubt that Boyka would be capable of blocking all of them considering that Dolor and that Capoeira guy constantly tagged him. That Capoeira guy is the same guy who doesn't have speed comparable to Bone, and I'll actually prove this later on.
I think that should suffice for the massive advantage Bone has. Another thing I'm going to cover is Bone's physical stats, which is comparable to Boyka's (if not surpasses). In his fight against Hammerman, he was dancing around Hammerman's hits, even though Hammer was on steroids in that match. Another thing with that feat is that he managed to take out Hammer with not so much effort considering that earlier, when a guy punched Hammer, he shaked his hand because his hand was in pain due to Hammer's body being so hard. Here's a showing of how hard Hammer's face is:
3:58 (unless it's already started from there) - The guy screams out in pain due to the impact. Another thing I'd like to mention with Hammer is that he is actually fast, not Boyka fast, but way faster than normal street fighters. If you continue the video after 3:58, you'll see that Hammer reacts to all of the Cowboy's hits with not much effort and he even hit him so fast that the Cowboy couldn't even react. Whereas Bone pretty much stomped him and didn't even show even the slightest of annoyance due to Hammer's hard body, when he was punching him:
0:15 - he first dodges Hammer's punches as if they're nothing (even though they're fast), then he punches Hammer (speed feat) without showing any pain. After that, guess what happens? He goes all Daredevil on Hammer; dancing around Hammer's punches as if it was a little baby trying to tag him, and then he proceeds to give him a Savate kick (knowledge in Savate). At 0:35, he just b*tch slaps Hammer's punch away (even though earlier with the Cowboy, he had enough force to make him dizzy in one hit). At 0:48, Bone goes all Superman on Hammer. He speedblitzes Hammer, and in the Cowboy incident, he was reacting to the Cowboy's hits as if they were nothing, and again, nowhere near Boyka's speed, but when Hammer does that and Bone just comes and speedblitzes his ass, then that should put him way above a normal human when it comes to speed.
I don't think hurting Boyka would be a problem when Bone did this to Hammer, who was on steroids. Forget the fact that he was on steroids, just look at the size of Hammer. This is what happens when Boyka goes up against fighters that are as good as him, or better:
I'm going to point you out to points in the match where Boyka was at a disadvantage.
- 0:37 - Chambers gave him multiple hits rapidly before Boyka was capable of doing anything himself. Not to mention that he actually made Boyka dizzy in four or five hits.
- 1:04 - Boyka tries to tag Chambers multiple times, but guess what? Chambers dodged them all as if they were nothing. Chambers has good speed of his own, but it seems like you're trying to say that Boyka is physically superior to Bone when Bone --- who is just as fast as Chambers --- has outperformed Chambers' speed feats and skill feats.
- 1:09 - it seems that, that match was childs play for Chambers (it wasn't very hard for him considering that this was only a fist fight).
- 1:11 - this one is my favourite one.
- 1:14 - it was getting ridiculous at this point.
- 1:15 - did Chambers just land 12+ hits before Boyka could react?
The only reason Boyka even managed to pull a comeback was because he began kicking him and using Brazillian Jiu-Jitus techniques against him.
Honestly, this match will most likely go into it being a fist fight where Boyka brutaly loses against Bone. Bone used this exact same tactic against Hammer, as Chambers did against Boyka (Boyka in his prime). And that is where Bone first landed a few shots and made him dizzy and that's when he went for the speedblitz against Hammer which is exactly what he does against Boyka here. I can guarante that this isn't a low showing for Boyka, because Boyka, when going up against complete fighters, has had a really hard time, and Bone who is more skilled than all of the people Boyka has gone up against, will have no trouble landing a good amount of hits on Boyka's body. Another showing Boyka has against another good fighter is this:
The Capoeira guy, who has speed and skill nowhere close to Bone, managed to give Boyka more than a challenge:
Throughout this whole fight, you can see that the Capoeira (Andreago?) guy had now showings to say that he is as fast as Bone. He tagged Boyka multiple times and he didn't showcase any speed to compare to Bone, yet, he tags him multiple times. I really don't think this guy's speed is comparable to this:
1:12. Look, I'm not trying to lowball Boyka, but these are his regular feats. Not to mention that there is another one where where he fails to use a Judo technique against Turbo - a Boxer. Turbo's raw skill and versatility in combat doesn't come close to Bone's. Turbo couldn't even defend himself from low kicks, and here you are telling me that Bone is inferior to Boyka in terms of being a fighter? Nah, man.
Bone's skill
I'll go ahead and say that you've missed quite good amount of martial art knowledge from Bone. Not only does he execute his techniques perfectly, but he mixes different martial arts in his battle, which Boyka seems to fail at since in both of his movies, the martial arts he mostly used were Muay Thai, a little Karate and Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu (he couldn't even perform an arm-lock correctly). Bone on the other hand, used Savate, Karate, Muay Thai, Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu and Aikido (I think he used Aikido since that's what the technique looked like).
- 0:18 - Karate kick. The type of Karate being used here I do not know of, I only know that it's Karate. That is if I remember the techniques correctely.
- 0:23 - this is either a Karate technique or Muay Thai technique, I can't remember correctely.
- 0:28 - this looks like an Aikido technique.
- 4:42 - Boxing technique, a right Hook.
- 5:00 - Muay Thai kick, perfectely executed.
- 5:04, Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu technique executed good enough to say that he has a good amount of expirience within this martial art.
1:50 - just in case Boyka or Li goes for the arm lock (which two people uneducated in Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu managed to break free from because he didn't do it correctely), Bone will get out of it. Skip to 2:34 - if Boyka tries to low kick Bone or just try to kick him, he'll not succeed because Bone is actually a Muay Thai artist as well, so he can block his kicks like he did against Price. 3:16 - only a Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu master can perform a technique like this. Another thing I'd like to point out is that Bone does not care about Boyka's limbs. Once he's in a BJJ position, Boyka will have one critical bone in his body broken. Bone broke someone's arm here:
5:11 - Bone doesn't have any problems with breaking bones (pun intended).
Bone is a true master off the martial arts he uses, and he is definitely a better fighter than Boyka. Boyka does many mistakes and he rushes his fights (against his fight with that Capoeira guy, for example). Bone takes his time, he executes the techniques he wants to use correctely and can actually perform an arm lock, unlike Boyka. Not only is Bone more versatile than Boyka, but he's also a better and more complete fighter.
Another thing I'd quickly like to point out is Price's skill. Price also performed Karate kicks and an arm lock (Brazillian Jiu-Jitsu). His reputation alone makes him as good as Dolor. Price has killed four guys within the ring, and he's the official greatest fighter in the world (or was); that includes being better than Jon Jones (real life UFC fighter), Anderson Silva (an UFC fighter) and so on. Price is above most of the people Boyka's faced and he's just as good fighter as Dolor, considering that Dolor's best feat of fighting (besides almost defeating Boyka) is taking out 3-4 random fodders.
Now that I look at it again, Bone is a better fighter, and a martial artist, than Boyka. I don't know so much about Jet Li, so I'll wait for Alessandro's post.
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