Lion vs Bear

Who wins

Depends upon the bear type.
If it's a big type, like a grizzly / polar bear, then the bear should take it.

unless its a sun bear or panda the bear wins

"unless its a sun bear or panda the bear wins "

"@nathandan1222 said:

"unless its a sun bear or panda the bear wins "

A lion could beat any bear except a polar bear "

the Bear definetively

" @nathandan1222 said:

"unless its a sun bear or panda the bear wins "

A lion could beat any bear except a polar bear "

Bear should win.

" @TigerWarrior said:

" @nathandan1222 said:

"unless its a sun bear or panda the bear wins "

A lion could beat any bear except a polar bear "

Lion has no chance against a grizzly "

"Bear "

"@Superparody said:

"Bear "

have you read my comment above? I put all that effort to explain this. "

"@TigerWarrior said:

"@Superparody said:

"Bear "

have you read my comment above? I put all that effort to explain this. "

I dont want to...because...well bears are fuzzy and cute...lions are fuzzy but not so cute, you can cuddle a bear but not a lion therfore Bear wins "

a lion is not taking down a brown/grizzly/polar bear, unless they are cubs

" @CortSether said:

" @TigerWarrior said:

" @nathandan1222 said:

"unless its a sun bear or panda the bear wins "

A lion could beat any bear except a polar bear "

Lion has no chance against a grizzly "

 
That is something someone who doesn't know much about animals would say, just because a bear is heavier it doesn't mean it is stronger. 
                                                     
Let's start of with the basic here, if you have a 120 LB dog and a 200 LB man, despite the fact that the man is heavier, the dog is stronger. It is how they are build. Our human body is very similar to that from a bear, we have a large skeleton and contrast amount of body fat that makes up most of our weight. A dogs/lions skeleton is quite small given it the size of the animal, they have minimum body fat; most of their weight comes from huge muscles: 
 
As you can see the body of a cat is packed with solid muscle.  Lions have evolved hunting prey much larger than it self, which include wildebeast, zebra, cape buffalo ect... They are imensely strong in order to bring down an animal up to 3-4 times their size.90 percente of a grizzly bears diet is vegetarion. When they hunt it is usually small rodents or mammals. A bear will only take the risk of attacking a huge and dangerous mammal like a moose or bison if there is no food for miles.   Not only that, cats are more agile and swifter, have sharper claws and bigger sharper canines, have greater jaw force, are better fighters; and are faster than bears. The only weakness in a lion is that it is low stamina.  A lion will defeat a grizzly. "

The Californians of the late 19th century staged well-documented pit fights with grizzlies and spanish bulls. The grizzlies, using their paw as a club, shattered the bull's skull or shoulder bones so easily that the betting became poor. Eventually, and at considerable cost, African lions were brought in to raise the stakes. The most fierce of the adult males was sent in whilst the grizzly was already waiting in the pits. The lion was known for bravely charging straight in and looked good for the money, but the grizzly killed a male lion almost as easily as he'd killed the bull. 

" @TigerWarrior said:

" @CortSether said:

" @TigerWarrior said:

" @nathandan1222 said:

"unless its a sun bear or panda the bear wins "

A lion could beat any bear except a polar bear "

Lion has no chance against a grizzly "

 
That is something someone who doesn't know much about animals would say, just because a bear is heavier it doesn't mean it is stronger. 
                                                     
Let's start of with the basic here, if you have a 120 LB dog and a 200 LB man, despite the fact that the man is heavier, the dog is stronger. It is how they are build. Our human body is very similar to that from a bear, we have a large skeleton and contrast amount of body fat that makes up most of our weight. A dogs/lions skeleton is quite small given it the size of the animal, they have minimum body fat; most of their weight comes from huge muscles: 
 
As you can see the body of a cat is packed with solid muscle.  Lions have evolved hunting prey much larger than it self, which include wildebeast, zebra, cape buffalo ect... They are imensely strong in order to bring down an animal up to 3-4 times their size.90 percente of a grizzly bears diet is vegetarion. When they hunt it is usually small rodents or mammals. A bear will only take the risk of attacking a huge and dangerous mammal like a moose or bison if there is no food for miles.   Not only that, cats are more agile and swifter, have sharper claws and bigger sharper canines, have greater jaw force, are better fighters; and are faster than bears. The only weakness in a lion is that it is low stamina.  A lion will defeat a grizzly. "

 No, it's something zoologists and other animal experts would say as well.Judging by your user name you have a thing for cats. It's okay to admit your cats get their asses kicked, buddy. 

The Californians of the late 19th century staged well-documented pit fights with grizzlies and spanish bulls. The grizzlies, using their paw as a club, shattered the bull's skull or shoulder bones so easily that the betting became poor. Eventually, and at considerable cost, African lions were brought in to raise the stakes. The most fierce of the adult males was sent in whilst the grizzly was already waiting in the pits. The lion was known for bravely charging straight in and looked good for the money, but the grizzly killed a male lion almost as easily as he'd killed the bull. 

 A grizzly's claws, having evolved as digging tools,  are also unmatched at opening body carcasses. Claws of 6" aren't uncommon (9" record).  Lion gets stomped every time by a grizzly. "

" @CortSether said:

" @TigerWarrior said:

" @CortSether said:

" @TigerWarrior said:

" @nathandan1222 said:

"unless its a sun bear or panda the bear wins "

A lion could beat any bear except a polar bear "

Lion has no chance against a grizzly "

 
That is something someone who doesn't know much about animals would say, just because a bear is heavier it doesn't mean it is stronger. 
                                                     
Let's start of with the basic here, if you have a 120 LB dog and a 200 LB man, despite the fact that the man is heavier, the dog is stronger. It is how they are build. Our human body is very similar to that from a bear, we have a large skeleton and contrast amount of body fat that makes up most of our weight. A dogs/lions skeleton is quite small given it the size of the animal, they have minimum body fat; most of their weight comes from huge muscles: 
 
As you can see the body of a cat is packed with solid muscle.  Lions have evolved hunting prey much larger than it self, which include wildebeast, zebra, cape buffalo ect... They are imensely strong in order to bring down an animal up to 3-4 times their size.90 percente of a grizzly bears diet is vegetarion. When they hunt it is usually small rodents or mammals. A bear will only take the risk of attacking a huge and dangerous mammal like a moose or bison if there is no food for miles.   Not only that, cats are more agile and swifter, have sharper claws and bigger sharper canines, have greater jaw force, are better fighters; and are faster than bears. The only weakness in a lion is that it is low stamina.  A lion will defeat a grizzly. "

 No, it's something zoologists and other animal experts would say as well.Judging by your user name you have a thing for cats. It's okay to admit your cats get their asses kicked, buddy. 

The Californians of the late 19th century staged well-documented pit fights with grizzlies and spanish bulls. The grizzlies, using their paw as a club, shattered the bull's skull or shoulder bones so easily that the betting became poor. Eventually, and at considerable cost, African lions were brought in to raise the stakes. The most fierce of the adult males was sent in whilst the grizzly was already waiting in the pits. The lion was known for bravely charging straight in and looked good for the money, but the grizzly killed a male lion almost as easily as he'd killed the bull. 

 A grizzly's claws, having evolved as digging tools,  are also unmatched at opening body carcasses. Claws of 6" aren't uncommon (9" record).  Lion gets stomped every time by a grizzly. "

 
Animal discover experts say the lion would defeat a 1700 LB Kodiak, let go a grizzly will get destroyed. 
 
And where did you get those battles in the 19th century from? Copy & paste from Liarweb, seriously? 
 
Did you know there are no officail records of those fights really occuring? and even if they did I doubt if the grizzly won easily. Those where CAGE fights, doesn't the word cage mean anything to you? In a cage fight the lion cannot make use of its speed, agility and swifter body. In the open wild there are only 2 animals that can defeat a lion and those are polar bear and tiger. 
And it doesn't matter how large the calws of a grizzly are, it matters how sharp they are, a bears claws are not sharp but are designed to deliver a hamer blow; the lions speed will allow it to avoid that blow.   
 
And it's always the bears who get their asses kicked by cats, Siberian tigers destroy brown bears in Rusia. Cougars destroy black bears in the Rocky Mountians. Bears are always the ones who run from cats to save their sorry lives. I even saw a video of a bear running from a tigers tracks in the snow, let go the tiger itself.  
 
I will ones again copy what I explained above: 
 
Let's start of with the basic here, if you have a 120 LB dog and a 200 LB man, despite the fact that the man is heavier, the dog is stronger. It is how they are build. Our human body is very similar to that from a bear, we have a large skeleton and contrast amount of body fat that makes up most of our weight. A dogs/lions skeleton is quite small given it the size of the animal, they have minimum body fat; most of their weight comes from huge muscles: 
http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/197609/1/Tiger,-Lateral-View,-Skin-Removed,-From-A-Comparative-Anatomical-Exposition-Of-The-Structure-Of-The-Human-Body-With-That-Of-A-Tiger-And-A-Common-Fowl.jpg 
As you can see the body of a cat is packed with solid muscle.  
Lions have evolved hunting prey much larger than it self, which include wildebeast, zebra, cape buffalo ect... They are imensely strong in order to bring down an animal up to 3-4 times their size.
90 percente of a grizzly bears diet is vegetarion. When they hunt it is usually small rodents or mammals. A bear will only take the risk of attacking a huge and dangerous mammal like a moose or bison if there is no food for miles. 
  
Not only that, cats are more agile and swifter, have sharper claws and bigger sharper canines, have greater jaw force, are better fighters; and are faster than bears. The only weakness in a lion is that it is low stamina. 
 
A lion will defeat a grizzly.

 

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" @TigerWarrior said:

" @CortSether said:

" @TigerWarrior said:

" @CortSether said:

" @TigerWarrior said:

" @nathandan1222 said:

"unless its a sun bear or panda the bear wins "

A lion could beat any bear except a polar bear "

Lion has no chance against a grizzly "

 
That is something someone who doesn't know much about animals would say, just because a bear is heavier it doesn't mean it is stronger. 
                                                     
Let's start of with the basic here, if you have a 120 LB dog and a 200 LB man, despite the fact that the man is heavier, the dog is stronger. It is how they are build. Our human body is very similar to that from a bear, we have a large skeleton and contrast amount of body fat that makes up most of our weight. A dogs/lions skeleton is quite small given it the size of the animal, they have minimum body fat; most of their weight comes from huge muscles: 
 
As you can see the body of a cat is packed with solid muscle.  Lions have evolved hunting prey much larger than it self, which include wildebeast, zebra, cape buffalo ect... They are imensely strong in order to bring down an animal up to 3-4 times their size.90 percente of a grizzly bears diet is vegetarion. When they hunt it is usually small rodents or mammals. A bear will only take the risk of attacking a huge and dangerous mammal like a moose or bison if there is no food for miles.   Not only that, cats are more agile and swifter, have sharper claws and bigger sharper canines, have greater jaw force, are better fighters; and are faster than bears. The only weakness in a lion is that it is low stamina.  A lion will defeat a grizzly. "

 No, it's something zoologists and other animal experts would say as well.Judging by your user name you have a thing for cats. It's okay to admit your cats get their asses kicked, buddy. 

The Californians of the late 19th century staged well-documented pit fights with grizzlies and spanish bulls. The grizzlies, using their paw as a club, shattered the bull's skull or shoulder bones so easily that the betting became poor. Eventually, and at considerable cost, African lions were brought in to raise the stakes. The most fierce of the adult males was sent in whilst the grizzly was already waiting in the pits. The lion was known for bravely charging straight in and looked good for the money, but the grizzly killed a male lion almost as easily as he'd killed the bull. 

 A grizzly's claws, having evolved as digging tools,  are also unmatched at opening body carcasses. Claws of 6" aren't uncommon (9" record).  Lion gets stomped every time by a grizzly. "

 
Animal discover experts say the lion would defeat a 1700 LB Kodiak, let go a grizzly will get destroyed. 
 
And where did you get those battles in the 19th century from? Copy & paste from Liarweb, seriously? 
 
Did you know there are no officail records of those fights really occuring? and even if they did I doubt if the grizzly won easily. Those where CAGE fights, doesn't the word cage mean anything to you? In a cage fight the lion cannot make use of its speed, agility and swifter body. In the open wild there are only 2 animals that can defeat a lion and those are polar bear and tiger. 
And it doesn't matter how large the calws of a grizzly are, it matters how sharp they are, a bears claws are not sharp but are designed to deliver a hamer blow; the lions speed will allow it to avoid that blow.   
 
And it's always the bears who get their asses kicked by cats, Siberian tigers destroy brown bears in Rusia. Cougars destroy black bears in the Rocky Mountians. Bears are always the ones who run from cats to save their sorry lives. I even saw a video of a bear running from a tigers tracks in the snow, let go the tiger itself.  
 
I will ones again copy what I explained above: 
 
Let's start of with the basic here, if you have a 120 LB dog and a 200 LB man, despite the fact that the man is heavier, the dog is stronger. It is how they are build. Our human body is very similar to that from a bear, we have a large skeleton and contrast amount of body fat that makes up most of our weight. A dogs/lions skeleton is quite small given it the size of the animal, they have minimum body fat; most of their weight comes from huge muscles: 
http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/197609/1/Tiger,-Lateral-View,-Skin-Removed,-From-A-Comparative-Anatomical-Exposition-Of-The-Structure-Of-The-Human-Body-With-That-Of-A-Tiger-And-A-Common-Fowl.jpg 
As you can see the body of a cat is packed with solid muscle.  
Lions have evolved hunting prey much larger than it self, which include wildebeast, zebra, cape buffalo ect... They are imensely strong in order to bring down an animal up to 3-4 times their size.
90 percente of a grizzly bears diet is vegetarion. When they hunt it is usually small rodents or mammals. A bear will only take the risk of attacking a huge and dangerous mammal like a moose or bison if there is no food for miles. 
  
Not only that, cats are more agile and swifter, have sharper claws and bigger sharper canines, have greater jaw force, are better fighters; and are faster than bears. The only weakness in a lion is that it is low stamina. 
 
A lion will defeat a grizzly.

 

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It's interesting that you say only 2 animals could defeat a lion in the wild those being a polar bear and tiger because a large grizzly would more than likely defeat a polar bear with its stronger build and stronger claw swipes. Many grizzly bears are even going into polar bear territory and taking over.   Btw, what's swiftness going to do against the grizzly? The lion has no chance wrestling the bear to the ground and it's bite would hardly do much to the grizzly's thick hide. One paw swipe on the lion's spine and it's over.   Grizzly Bear bite Force: 1,200 psi  Lion bite force: 691 psi    Btw, lions get their asses kicked by sluggish Hippos all the time proving that agility doesn't mean jack shit. "

I never thought this will be a serious one. Keep em coming animal experts! Good arguments on both sides!
 
I'm rooting for Aslan though.

Maybe if you used a liger it would be closer.
 

" Maybe if you used a liger it would be closer.
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" @Yaujtapool said:

" Maybe if you used a liger it would be closer.
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Have there ever been ligers that were released in the wild? I mean if not then they're in deep sh*t right? They may be predators by heredity but if they've got no hunting experience they they're pretty much as good as dead in a fight against a Grizzly. "

Lion, I have seen a wolverine run off a grizzly from a kill.

Bear for win lions get tired to fast

Both are territorially aggressive.

An alpha male Grizly Bear will beat a Lion, simply because everything in nature is based on who is physically stronger. A Lion can do much damage with its bite but it will not bring down a grizzly bear, much less bite its neck to choke it as they usually tend to do this to kill their prey. The neck of a grizzly Bear is huge, thick and muscular, more than a Lion's jaw could hold; moreover, the strength of a Grizzly Bear disproportionately exceeds its size and therefore easily the strength of a Lion .

Simply we look the anatomy of an Alpha male Grizzly Bear intimidate any predators. Physically the body of a Grizzly Bear overwhelmingly exceeds that of a Lion in strength: first have thicker skin and a thick coat which would avoid the risk of serious bites by lion, second, is larger and heavier, have short limbs with thick bones and small joints strong too, plus a lot of muscle so it can attack with powerful strokes and a huge force.

A single stroke of a Grizzly Bear is enough to break the backbone of a Lion; likewise, its powerful bite would bring an end to the lion, that simple.

Bear Wins.

A strong grizzly or polar could almost decapitate a lion if it got in a good swing. The mane provides protection for  the lion, but the bear's thick hide and layer of fat is a better defense. The lion has the agility advantage although bears have awesome reflexes to. If it is a large male lion I could see it going for the jugular and killing the bear, but it would be tough because of the huge size advantage. With two huge blood lusted predators it could go either way, but I say lion 6/10 times.

Since it's pretty obvious lions are no match for polar bears, the largest land carnavores, I'll mainly talk about grizzlies. Lions typically work in unison to bring down 2000 lb cape buffalo (and they're not always successful). Grizzly bears on the other hand, often wrestle down 1, 500 lb moose (meese?), and 2000lb bison, alone. Anatomically speaking, a grizzly bear is compactly muscled. The heaviest a lion can get is about 500lbs. Grizzlies, on the otherhand, can weigh as much as 1,200 pounds. I'll even recon the bears are almost agile as the lion, considering it has no trouble reaching speeds of 34 mph. Lower caliber bullets often can't penetrate a grizzly bear's skull; lions would have lots of trouble getting through a bear's defenses. Also, bears have very long, sturdy claws. Competing alpha males often rip off flesh from their opponents, which says something considering the very thick hides grizzly bears tend to have.

Bear wins.

Historically this fight has happened before if we are talking about grizzly bears. In California in the late 1800's settlers had pit fight between Grizzlies and imported lions, and the bears won almost easily almost every time.

"bears are bigger and stronger. they take this. lions don't even hunt. lionesses hunt and the lions just have to defend territory. besides that, bears are known to be incredibly fast, even chasing down horses in some cases. "

A walrus might be able to beat a bear. I remember seeing it on Discovery Channel that a walrus could kill a polar bear.

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http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/animalfaceoff/game/play.html     "

" @brandonthejuggernaut said:

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http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/animalfaceoff/game/play.html     "

Lion wins. I trust discovery channel! :D "

" @ssejllenrad said:

" @brandonthejuggernaut said:

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http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/animalfaceoff/game/play.html     "

Lion wins. I trust discovery channel! :D "

Animal Face-Off was the most ridiculous show ever. The comparisons were okay and it was interesting how they showed them testing bite force ratio and other similar things, but the CGI matches were totally bogus. Take this one for example between a great white shark and a crocodile. As soon as the shark gets one of its fins torn off it should have been disabled for the most part, yet it swims in this CGI as if nothing happened. The show was crap for the most part.  
 
 

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