#1 Posted by nickzambuto (13669 posts) - - Show Bio

Leon Scott Kennedy as of Resident Evil 6.

Pre-52 Nightwing.

Dick gets two, completely normal escrima sticks and no gadgets of any kind.

Leon gets a single combat knife, and no other guns or weapons.

#2 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing.

#3 Posted by NeonGameWave (7784 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing wins.

#4 Posted by Rick_Grayson (779 posts) - - Show Bio

I've seen arguments for superhuman stats with Res Evil characters, but until someone posts them here I'm with my main man Nightwing on this one lol.

#5 Posted by Marksman (1364 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to say Leon. Mostly because I've been playing a lot of Resident Evil 4 recently.

#6 Posted by monarch_prime (384 posts) - - Show Bio

Kennedy is fun to play as,that being said nightwing breaks his face.

#7 Posted by MorganFreeman (446 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing. Leon's good at hand-to-hand but I think Nightwing has him beat in that category. The sticks will be able to attack at a longer distance than the knife so there's that, and the fact that Nightwing has two of them to Leon's one knife.

@Rick_Grayson said:

I've seen arguments for superhuman stats with Res Evil characters, but until someone posts them here I'm with my main man Nightwing on this one lol.

The Resident Evil universe is kinda weird about the non-carrying (lacking a virus or parasite) characters at times. The main example is Chris Redfield punching a large boulder mid-push in an attempt to move it. It's as funny as it sounds.

#8 Posted by Vance Astro (91234 posts) - - Show Bio

Leon doesn't have the feats to compare to Nightwing. I doubt he even has the feats to say he can beat, Damian....

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#9 Posted by GunGunW (996 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rick_Grayson said:

I've seen arguments for superhuman stats with Res Evil characters, but until someone posts them here I'm with my main man Nightwing on this one lol.

Well Chris Redfield can punch boulders... I have no idea what that has anything to do with Leon though, lol

#10 Posted by ImmortalT1000 (3170 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing.

#11 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

Dick.... So hard.

#12 Posted by Rick_Grayson (779 posts) - - Show Bio
@GunGunW said:

@Rick_Grayson said:

I've seen arguments for superhuman stats with Res Evil characters, but until someone posts them here I'm with my main man Nightwing on this one lol.

Well Chris Redfield can punch boulders... I have no idea what that has anything to do with Leon though, lol

Well Chris punching boulders has nothing to do with Leon, but obviously I wasn't referring to just that.
#13 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

Leon doesn't have the feats to compare to Nightwing. I doubt he even has the feats to say he can beat, Damian....

This.

#14 Posted by nickzambuto (13669 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

Leon doesn't have the feats to compare to Nightwing. I doubt he even has the feats to say he can beat, Damian....

OOOOOHHHHH HELL NAW. I AIN'T BOUT TO TAKE THAT SITTIN' DOWN.

@Rick_Grayson said:

I've seen arguments for superhuman stats with Res Evil characters, but until someone posts them here I'm with my main man Nightwing on this one lol.

They're superhuman by Marvel and DC standards. Ripping through chains and matching superspeed mutants move for move, no magic soldier juice required! Suck it Cap.

1:15 holds open the jaws of a giant 20 foot long shark (that's several tons of force, and he's in the process of drowning while I'm at it)

Analyzes the path of each erratically moving laser the instant it appears, and mentally plans out the best way to contort his body so as to barely avoid them (notice how the scene goes into slow motion towards the end, but Leon does nothing if not speed up!)

Tanks a 30 ton hit with no damage, shows off some neat parkour too.

In terms of skill, you can see Leon's unbelievable precision in the latter two videos. He's the most highly trained agent in the entire U.S. Government, and the president's right hand man, easily taking on hordes of multitonner BOWs with his bare hands, even managing to defeat a group of Ganados while handcuffed in RE: Damnation. Leon has the stat edge over Nightwing in most areas, and I'd bet the skill advantage as well. He sure as hell has the advantage over friggin Damian at least.

#15 Posted by Z3RO180 (6549 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: after watching and reading your post i thought it was going to say

....but nightwing wins

lol

#16 Posted by jashro44 (21743 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing.

#17 Posted by nickzambuto (13669 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

Nightwing.

Why? Is Leon not stronger with superior reaction time and fighting skill?

#18 Edited by dondave (37441 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: while the laser dodging scan is cool, it seems like something even Stephanie Brown could do let alone Nightwing.

Nightwing ftw

#19 Posted by Vance Astro (91234 posts) - - Show Bio
@nickzambuto said:

@jashro44 said:

Nightwing.

Why? Is Leon not stronger with superior reaction time and fighting skill?

No, he's none of those things.
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#20 Edited by dondave (37441 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto:Also dick has taken hits from Donna Troy and Osiris

#21 Edited by jashro44 (21743 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

@jashro44 said:

Nightwing.

Why? Is Leon not stronger with superior reaction time and fighting skill?

I will give him strength. But not skill and speed. I am not really sure what to say and I am sort of tired right now so here are some scans.

There is some other stuff too. I just honestly think nightwing is better then Leon. And I should probably point out there is no difference between pre 52 nightwing and new 52 nightwing. Every member of the bat family was pretty much unaffected by the flashpoint IIRC.

EDIT: For some reason the caption with the Ravager fight didn't show up. So the scans without a caption that's who nightwing is taking down. She has precog and she has been trained by deathstroke. Admittedly I think she may have improved since then but I don't know for certain.

#22 Edited by Hentoshinka (1 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread is embarrassing Leon has done absolutely nothing to put himself on the same level as someone of Nightwing's caliber, he hasn't done anything to put himself on Damian's league.

Objectively speaking, Leon doesn't have a single bullet timing feat, dodging lasers is something Black Widow or Stephanie Brown could easily do, if that's his best feat then he's significantly outclassed by Damian let alone Dick, and breaking chains is something all peak humans can do.

That feat of Leon holding the sharks mouth up is BS also, he was using a metal pole to pry the sharks mouth open and prevented the shark from killing him.

1. Meanwhile Dick was able to open up the jaws of an orca without using anything but his owns strength

2. Dick was also able to catch the fist of a scientist who gained superhuman strength, he was smashing steel lab equipment and Nightwing casually caught his fist

3. More importantly let me know when Leon can kick a 250 lb man so hard he flies through a barricaded door and back 15 feet

Dick would have to hold back since he might kill Leon on accident if he hits him too hard, even though Leon survived getting hit back 30 feet, Nightwing will be repeatedly pounding his face in.

4. Let me know when Leon gets surrounded by 40 armed soldiers, and manages to kick all of their asses without killing them and without getting injured

5. How about when Leon can jump into the air and dodge gunfire..from TWENTY SEVEN SHOOTERS

6. FUN FACT: Nightwing knows pressure points

Even if Chris and Ada were helping Leon, they would still get their asses kicked badly. These characters are so outclassed physically and in terms of skill it's not even funny. As someone else pointed, Nightwing beat down Owen Mercer who's faster and more skilled than Wesker is. None of the RE Humans can compete on a skill based or a physical based level. But hey, maybe when Chris and Leon can bullet time, dodge gunfire from dozens of shooters simultaneously, use pressure points or punch people so hard that they fly back several yards they may be able to compete.

Resident Evil humans are some of the least impressive bunch of characters in video games, and that's saying alot because the standard for video game humans is much lower than comic human. This is also coming from someone who's played Resident Evil since 1998, over 15 years, and have even played and beaten the garbage offshoots like Survivor and The Umbrella. And even though it took every fiber of my being I beat the abomination known as Resident Evil 6 /shudders

#23 Posted by JinSlayerX (129 posts) - - Show Bio

Damnation and Degeneration Leon is ridiculously good, he could deffo take on NW

Leon doesn't have the feats to compare to Nightwing. I doubt he even has the feats to say he can beat, Damian....

Maybe you should play RE4 and RE6...

JSX

#24 Edited by Alexander505 (2144 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing stomps

#25 Posted by Jmarshmallow (6997 posts) - - Show Bio

@hentoshinka: I agree with your post 99%.

Leon doesn't stand a chance against Nightwing. None of the RE characters do really, except Albert who has a very slim chance.

That being said, I definitely disagree with you when you say the standard for video game characters are much lower than comics. Its quite the opposite actually.

There are some serious powerhouses in video games. I dare say that some of the most powerful in video games could easily challenge the most powerful characters in comics.

But either way, very good post concerning Nightwing.

Jmarshmallow