Legion VS Franklin Richards

@council elite:

hmmm...so it's adult version of Franklin Richards...

Legion beats current Franklin because he has some control over his powers but take into account that a guy with a gun would be a threat to the both of them.

Adult Franklin would beat current Legion badly.

Legion was almost able to control his powers but the death of his father set him back so he should easily gain full control by the time Franklin's an adult, the dude has a growing mutant community in his head that has increased dramatically in a short period of time. Legion increases in power as time goes on simply by existing but Franklin does not so a Franklin of the same period would more than likely win.

The bearded blond dude wins .

@JonSmith said:

I'm going to give this to Legion. He undoubtedly has a number of reality warpers in his head. And in a battle of reality warpers on this scale, the victor comes down to who can figure out a way to destroy their opponent in such a way said opponent can't warp reality to avoid or recover from. You're familiar with the phrase 'two heads are better than one'. Legion has a few more than just two to help him figure out how to take out Richards. And since Richards would completely destroy Legion if they don't help out, even the most antagonistic of personalities has motivation to lend aid.

And how exactly does he take out Mister Franklin ? Or do you think that Legion will somehow succeed where both the Revision Wave and the Mad Celestials failed ?

The guy can make self-sustaining pocket realities in a void , and is a far more mentally stable reality manipulator than Legion . Plus his baseline durability is also far above Legion's . There is literally nothing that Legion can do here which can't be countered by Mister Franklin . Unless one wants to manufacture some never-before seen feats of Legion , Mister Franklin takes this win without any difficulty at all .

@Hyper_God: It's obvious that current Legion loses but with full control of his power his baseline durability will be a combination of thousands of super powered individuals and on power he will have the combined power of multiple reality warpers who have already shown the standard create your own universe bit.

Reality warper vs reality warper of Legion, M-Wanda, Franklin level it's normally just speculation unless they duke it out but with multiple reality warpers in his head and a new one created recently placing your money on Legion feels like the safe bet.

@JonSmith: So you basically apply a no-limits fallacy in order to shoehorn Legion with the ability to overcome a more powerful reality warper ? Thought so , since you started by having not much an argument to support your case and ended the same way .

Mister Franklin wins , easily .

@Dextersinister said:

@Hyper_God: Reality warper vs reality warper of Legion, M-Wanda, Franklin level it's normally just speculation unless they duke it out but with multiple reality warpers in his head and a new one created recently placing your money on Legion feels like the safe bet.

Barring external amps , Wanda has never been anywhere close to either Legion or Franklin's level . Sure , if you want to argue from ignorance about the respective characters' feats , then it becomes a speculative discourse . Feat VS Feat undeniably goes to Franklin .

Franklin

@Hyper_God said:

@Dextersinister said:

@Hyper_God: Reality warper vs reality warper of Legion, M-Wanda, Franklin level it's normally just speculation unless they duke it out but with multiple reality warpers in his head and a new one created recently placing your money on Legion feels like the safe bet.

Barring external amps , Wanda has never been anywhere close to either Legion or Franklin's level . Sure , if you want to argue from ignorance about the respective characters' feats , then it becomes a speculative discourse . Feat VS Feat undeniably goes to Franklin .

Are his feats really that low in comparison? with one personality he was capable of wiping out the Elder gods and removing all ill effects there presence had caused in the universe and a separate personality was capable of changing reality.

I'm also 90% certain the Elder god's are above the people you mentioned Franklin beating.

@JonSmith said:

I'm going to give this to Legion. He undoubtedly has a number of reality warpers in his head. And in a battle of reality warpers on this scale, the victor comes down to who can figure out a way to destroy their opponent in such a way said opponent can't warp reality to avoid or recover from. You're familiar with the phrase 'two heads are better than one'. Legion has a few more than just two to help him figure out how to take out Richards. And since Richards would completely destroy Legion if they don't help out, even the most antagonistic of personalities has motivation to lend aid.

I always assumed it was just the Moira persona, but Franklin still takes this regardless.

@Dextersinister said:

@Hyper_God said:

@Dextersinister said:

@Hyper_God: Reality warper vs reality warper of Legion, M-Wanda, Franklin level it's normally just speculation unless they duke it out but with multiple reality warpers in his head and a new one created recently placing your money on Legion feels like the safe bet.

Barring external amps , Wanda has never been anywhere close to either Legion or Franklin's level . Sure , if you want to argue from ignorance about the respective characters' feats , then it becomes a speculative discourse . Feat VS Feat undeniably goes to Franklin .

Are his feats really that low in comparison? with one personality he was capable of wiping out the Elder gods and removing all ill effects there presence had caused in the universe and a separate personality was capable of changing reality.

I'm also 90% certain the Elder god's are above the people you mentioned Franklin beating.

No, they were elder Gods of Limbo that were featlesS, ALTERNATE reality Elder gods of that..I highly doubt they were above the Celestials.

Franklin wins, he has better feats, better mental stability, and higher power.

Franklin is the most powerful mutant in my mind.

Legion is a close second.

@Dextersinister said:

Are his feats really that low in comparison? with one personality he was capable of wiping out the Elder gods and removing all ill effects there presence had caused in the universe and a separate personality was capable of changing reality.

I'm also 90% certain the Elder god's are above the people you mentioned Franklin beating.

If you think that a bunch of featless Elder Gods are above beings that resisted an alternate IG and a UN , then this represents the sum of your comic knowledge :

Franklin.

@Hyper_God: That is a fantastic 3 drop, your right Legion's got this. Above average stat's and would it be possible to weed your deck out of Legion's as you replace all your resources with ongoing's by getting another copy of Legion?

franklin but this fight would be cool to see and would be pretty close but franklin would win.

Legion easily, as Legion himself stated he has over 200 omega level mutants in his head (this doesn't even count for the other thousand that are constantly made without him knowing it), Franklin is just 1 omega level mutant. both can manipulate universes. Franklin in the future made Galactus his heralds, Legion negated the existence of Limbo's elder gods. Both are powerhouses. Also as far as Legion's durability, Iceman brought him to absolute zero, and that didn't put him down, for anyone else that would have meant instant death. I have never seen Franklin withstand something close to absolute zero so I'd say legion has the better durability.

Also Franklin has no counter for Legion's ability to suck his soul out of his body and take control over him (Styx), and legion also has the ability to adapt via Endgame. Also Origami would make attacking Legion impossible if he could control his powers, as he was shown to be able to do now.

@TDK_1997 said:

Franklin.

@Dextersinister said:

@Hyper_God: That is a fantastic 3 drop, your right Legion's got this. Above average stat's and would it be possible to weed your deck out of Legion's as you replace all your resources with ongoing's by getting another copy of Legion?

Franklin wins easily . Come back to me after you've spent another week trying to draft another equally impotent response .