Larfleeze vs Despero

Rules 
To the Death 
Bloodlust is on 
Morals off 
Both know of each others powers and Feats 
No BFR 
No prep 
Standard gear for both 
Fight takes place on a empty OA

Larfleeze with no morals should slaughter Despero, but if he fought at his usual stupidity, he can be affected by telepathy. 

" Larfleeze with no morals should slaughter Despero, but if he fought at his usual stupidity, he can be affected by telepathy.  "

I could see it going either way, to be honest. Larfleeze is insanely powerful and tends to be vastly underestimated here. He's basically an entire Lantern corps all by himself. If he's fighting to the best of his abilities and not dicking around or jobbing, he could win. Not to mention the pseudo-corps of avatars. That should be the deciding factor in him winning, IMO.

Despero !

Hmmm...
 
 
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I'd have to back Larfleeze. 

Larfleeze ftw

Why do people say Larfleeze? Isn't Despero a larger threat than Larfleeze? Also, Desp's telepathy is the win here right? I am asking because people just post answers without explanation. I want to know why.
 
~Curious bystander named Mr Rage

" Why do people say Larfleeze? Isn't Despero a larger threat than Larfleeze? Also, Desp's telepathy is the win here right? I am asking because people just post answers without explanation. I want to know why.  ~Curious bystander named Mr Rage "

well the thing is Larfleeze is a Very Powerful Ring Wielder who has essentially the Entire Orange Power Battery to himself... he also has various Construct Avatars he can draw unto to slow up Despero... and I believe the Power Ring can protect against some levels of Telepathy...  "

1. Despero took on Superman, WW, CM, etc simultaneously, I can only think of one construct/avatar who is on the same power level as them. Do you think the constructs are enough to slow Despero?
2. Do you think that Despero's telepathy can be nulled by the Orange Battery? In your own words you said "some levels", Despero's telepathy is greater than MM.
3. Also, isn't Despero fast enough to dodge the constructs?

" @MrRagePants said:

" Why do people say Larfleeze? Isn't Despero a larger threat than Larfleeze? Also, Desp's telepathy is the win here right? I am asking because people just post answers without explanation. I want to know why.  ~Curious bystander named Mr Rage "

well the thing is Larfleeze is a Very Powerful Ring Wielder who has essentially the Entire Orange Power Battery to himself... he also has various Construct Avatars he can draw unto to slow up Despero... and I believe the Power Ring can protect against some levels of Telepathy...  "

"Why do people say Larfleeze? Isn't Despero a larger threat than Larfleeze? Also, Desp's telepathy is the win here right? I am asking because people just post answers without explanation. I want to know why.  ~Curious bystander named Mr Rage "

" @King Saturn said:

well the thing is Larfleeze is a Very Powerful Ring Wielder who has essentially the Entire Orange Power Battery to himself... he also has various Construct Avatars he can draw unto to slow up Despero... and I believe the Power Ring can protect against some levels of Telepathy...  "

Another set of questions (anybody can answer)...

1. Despero took on Superman, WW, CM, etc simultaneously, I can only think of one construct/avatar who is on the same power level as them. Do you think the constructs are enough to slow Despero?
2. Do you think that Despero's telepathy can be nulled by the Orange Battery? In your own words you said "some levels", Despero's telepathy is greater than MM.
3. Also, isn't Despero fast enough to dodge the constructs?

"

" @King Saturn said:

" @MrRagePants said:

" Why do people say Larfleeze? Isn't Despero a larger threat than Larfleeze? Also, Desp's telepathy is the win here right? I am asking because people just post answers without explanation. I want to know why.  ~Curious bystander named Mr Rage "

well the thing is Larfleeze is a Very Powerful Ring Wielder who has essentially the Entire Orange Power Battery to himself... he also has various Construct Avatars he can draw unto to slow up Despero... and I believe the Power Ring can protect against some levels of Telepathy...  "

Larfleeze was affected by Hector Hammond via telepathy. Apparently, he's too stupid to use shields competently. Larfleeze is more powerful, but Despero will wreck him. "

1. Point taken. Numbers game will probably work against DS.
2. So even if Larfleeze is powerful than Desp. Being stupid will probably be his demise. Thank DC for such CIS. Giving a guy such power but making him stupid.
   
3. See #1

Larfleeze

Larfleeze

Despero.

@mrragepants: is Despero's telepathy greater than Martian Manhunter? I recall MM destroying his mind when Despero attacked the Watchtower right before Forever Evil.

Despero quite easily.

Black Lantern J'ohn already messed up with Fleeze's mind, Despero shouldn't have any problems turning him into a potato.

Despero destroys Larfreeze mind without even trying

Can anyone confirm or refute that Despero's telepathy greater than Martian Manhunter? I recall MM destroying his mind when Despero attacked the Watchtower right before Forever Evil.

@savagejoe: That was New 52 Despero, Pre-New 52 is much more powerful.

@thekinfing: That's right! Didn't even think about that. I do recall him being a much bigger threat before.

Larfleeze

Larfleeze

Despero shuts him down with TP.

Larfleeze wins.

Larfleeze, dude was OP as hell.

Larflezee if he isn't being stupid will beat the hell Outta Despro before he can even use his TP.

Citing an earlier comment; if Black Lantern MMH could punk w/Larfleeze via telepathy then Despero; who is the far superior telepath should turn him into a babbling child.

Here's a respect thread for Despero should anyone need reference: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/respect-thread-despero-1868149/#1

@thetruebarryallen: Is TP Despero's preferred tactic in a battle versus multiple opponents though? Because (if i am recalling properly) when Despero faced the league in virtue and vice he opted to fight them physically rather than mentally. If that's the case here versus the Orange Lanterns and Fleeze he should get quickly overwhelmed and beaten down or his soul assimilated into the Orange Lantern corps.

Also, Larfleeze could potentially attack Despero's soul before Despero can breach Larfleeze's mind (because as far as I know Despero has no soul attack resistances whereas Larfleeze has at least a moderate amount of TP immunity as demonstrated when Dyrge tried to enter Larfleeze mind and was destroyed by Larfleeze's mental constructs).

@speedforceking: When Despero is toying with people he prefers to use his physical brawn; arrogance can be his downfall and usually is given that his powers/physicals make him a superior foe to most. I'd say there's a 50/50 split between how often he uses telepathy and how often he'd go for a physical attack.

As for Soul Resistance; Despero doesn't have any that I can recall, so a soul-attack would be a gg for Despero if that's how Larfleeze goes for his first attack.

In regards to Larfleeze's mental resistance; I don't know much about Dyrge but someone else said (in a Reddit thread that I'll link here) that Dyrge's only feats are attacking Larfleeze so they're probably not the best indicator for mental resistance; whereas Despero has only lost a telepathic battle against Starro the Conqueror AFTER Starro got rid of Despero's Third Eye in a physical encounter.

So, in summary:

• Despero wins if he utilizes TP first.
• Larfleeze wins if he can soul attack before Despero can TP.

Depends on who does what first, I know more about Despero than Larfleeze though, so I could be ignorant on his abilities/tactics/etc.

Your right, Dyrge isn't particularly impressive, but the point I was trying to make was that with Larfleeze's superior speed and having at least somemental durability he should be able to use his hax power to incap. Despero (who has no resistance at all) first.

So in the scenario they both use their hax powers immediately, Larfleeze wins via effecting Despero first. If Larfleeze uses soul attacks and Despero brawls, Larfleeze wins. If Despero uses TP and Lafleeze brawls, Despero wins. And if they both brawl Larfleeze wins. So I would argue Larfleeze takes a strong majority despite Despero's TP likely being able to one-shot.

Larfleeze

Despero still destroys Larfreeze's mind

@speedforceking: Looking at Larfleeze's respect thread again I'd argue that Despero's Telepathy works far quicker than Larfleeze's soul attack.

Also; Larfleeze having 'slight' mental resistance is a non factor when it's been dominated by someone prior who has been, in turn, dominated countless times by Despero.

We can agree to disagree here, but I think a bloodlusted Despero is going to take it here in a bout with a bloodlusted Larfleeze, unless his soul attack is more impressive than what I'm seeing here:

@thetruebarryallen: That looks pretty fast to me, a couple of seconds at most. And that is why a slight mental fortitude could play a part considering the small window of time.

Either way, ya we can agree to disagree. Would you agree that Larfleeze and the OLs would win if both decide to brawl though?

@speedforceking: In a full on brawl, Larfleeze and his constructs would likely win. Despero is very resistant to blunt force damage and can take on numbers of strong foes, but he's pretty weak to piercing damage. and I think Larfleeze and his corps could certainly capitalize on that.

Then and now, despero due to intelligence

Despero wins if he uses his telepathy soon enough. Otherwise, Larfleeze.