Lady Shiva vs Winter Soldier

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#1  Edited By ssejllenrad

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I really don't know much of these two. 
 
H2H only. No hold barred. Both at their peaks.
Win by KO or death 
Bucky has his cybernetic arm but Shiva is allowed access and use to any non-modern non-fictional asian armour she prefers.
Battlefield:  
  
I searched and no similar thread was found but if it's already done, just link to the old one and lock this thread.
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#2  Edited By progenitorigin

As far as pure H2H is involved, I believe Lady Shiva has more impressive feats--Winter Soldier was an assassin that dealt in skill more along the lines of espionage.  Although, it was said that after Bucky's experience as the Winter Soldier, that his skill in H2H was equal to that of Steve Rogers himself.  I think that Bucky's combat skill is horribly underrated on this forum.  Anyway, as for feats, Winter Soldier's defeated The Man with No Face, the Chinese response to the Super Soldier, he's fought Captain America basically to a stalemate, so as for me, i'd probably pull for Winter Soldier.
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#3  Edited By jayskee

winter soldier after a good fight
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#4  Edited By sweatboy
@progenitor said:
" As far as pure H2H is involved, I believe Lady Shiva has more impressive feats--Winter Soldier was an assassin that dealt in skill more along the lines of espionage.  Although, it was said that after Bucky's experience as the Winter Soldier, that his skill in H2H was equal to that of Steve Rogers himself.  I think that Bucky's combat skill is horribly underrated on this forum.  Anyway, as for feats, Winter Soldier's defeated The Man with No Face, the Chinese response to the Super Soldier, he's fought Captain America basically to a stalemate, so as for me, i'd probably pull for Winter Soldier. "
Even Batman was scared of Lady Shiva,...but then again Shiva hunted Red Robin and although he was spooked it went pretty well
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#5  Edited By Mercy_

Shiva

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#6  Edited By PirateKing69

hmm dont know to much about either one but i heard shiva's h2h is better then then batman's...and cap h2h is better then winter soldier so im going with Shiva

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#7  Edited By Telcalipoca
@sweatboy said:
" @progenitor said:
" As far as pure H2H is involved, I believe Lady Shiva has more impressive feats--Winter Soldier was an assassin that dealt in skill more along the lines of espionage.  Although, it was said that after Bucky's experience as the Winter Soldier, that his skill in H2H was equal to that of Steve Rogers himself.  I think that Bucky's combat skill is horribly underrated on this forum.  Anyway, as for feats, Winter Soldier's defeated The Man with No Face, the Chinese response to the Super Soldier, he's fought Captain America basically to a stalemate, so as for me, i'd probably pull for Winter Soldier. "
Even Batman was scared of Lady Shiva,...but then again Shiva hunted Red Robin and although he was spooked it went pretty well "
wait when was red robin hunted by shiva? do you mean jason as red robin? because i dont remember anything regarding tim as red robin having todo anything with shiva or that of jason buuut i know little of what he did as red robin other than traveling through dimensions. 
 
shiva wins  
 shiva is on the top of dc best martial artist capable of even taking down the bat. as skill as bucky maybe taking on dcs best might be to difficult as task in h2h.
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#8  Edited By sweatboy

 http://comicbookjesus.com/2009/02/19/robin-183-review/ wait that was JASON? Sorry, i had no idea i ran into this image on google. And yeah, i've never actually read a comic she was in, buti know Shiva TRAINED Batman (as well as the Demon's Head ninja) She's like SHREDDER but she couldn't kill Tim, if that WAS her plan. But you DO have to consider she usually has a whole army at her disposal, but here she's one-on-one against Winter Soldier. She's a ninja which means she usually hides from or tracks down people and has a unique style of hit and run combat that is favoured by "the element of" surprise, secluded spaces and you get my idea, except the arena in the picture is an open area. It's been said that Bucky too is more of a spy/hunter killer. Both of them are of course skilled martial artists and they both should have enough Stamina to outlast the other. But i have to wonder, did Cap America ever learn how to fight? cos his origins were more of steroid induced saving-the-world yes? Even for Batman i've always had a problem about how he achieved so much in so little time. Lady Shiva is a dedicated Ninja on the other hand, and my money is on her since i dont know/like Cap America's old sidekick
 
That's a...an interesting username
 

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#9  Edited By GOODLantern

this ends the same way the Daredevil vs Huntress fight ended,in a bed.
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#10  Edited By entropy_aegis
@GOODLantern:
Lady shiva isnt one for $ex ,she'll tear his head off.
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#11  Edited By FinalStar86
@GOODLantern said:

" this ends the same way the Daredevil vs Huntress fight ended,in a bed. "

Shiva turns Bucky down, then proceeds to beat the $hit out of him.
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#12  Edited By entropy_aegis
@FinalStar86:
Yup if it was that easy bruce would have done it.
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#13  Edited By GOODLantern
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@entropy_aegis:

No one can resist the sexy metal arm!! xD!!!
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#14  Edited By entropy_aegis
@GOODLantern:
Well then she'll take the arm as a trophy.
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#15  Edited By GOODLantern
@entropy_aegis:
Besides,he would beat her in a fight any day of the week.
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#16  Edited By entropy_aegis
@GOODLantern:
Um no .
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#17  Edited By GOODLantern
@entropy_aegis:
He's better trained and is stronger,faster,and over-all better.
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#18  Edited By entropy_aegis
@GOODLantern:
Better trained than shiva? you jest 
she's faster,better fighter,more skilled and has phenominal striking power. shiva=batman=steve>bucky.
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#19  Edited By GOODLantern

I beg to differ,Shiva is not Bat-Level,and did you see the comic where bucky makes fools of super-powered skrulls?yea,when shiva beats down grundy i'll say she's on his level.
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#20  Edited By entropy_aegis
@GOODLantern:
Shiva has stalemated batman and cassandra cain ,and if you start using evidence like that i can easily go to a batman thread and post scans of him kicking spectre.
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#21  Edited By GOODLantern

Batman is not the one being debated,it's shiva,so unless you post a scan of her taking trademark superhumans i'll continue,and Bucky is = to steve.
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#22  Edited By entropy_aegis
@GOODLantern:
Lady shiva=batman ,and bucky isnt a superhuman,he's a streetlevelr,he got whooped by batroc who's NOT a skrull ,using inconsistent showings isnt going to get us anywhere  
cause you see batman=shiva>>spectre>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>steve>bucky 
This is what would happen if we go by your logic.
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#23  Edited By saiyan_earthling

Shiva

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#24  Edited By GOODLantern
@entropy_aegis:
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#25  Edited By entropy_aegis
@GOODLantern:
LOL i'm just showing you how faulty your logic is.
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#26  Edited By GOODLantern
@entropy_aegis:
How is beating a skrull anything like owning the spectre?
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#27  Edited By Pokeysteve

Birds of Prey, Perfect Pitch arc, Shiva essentially cripples Killer Croc with just a few taps.  After toying with him for a few panels of course. My vote goes to her. 
 
 

 Shiva vs Croc
 Shiva vs Croc
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#28  Edited By entropy_aegis
@GOODLantern:
SPECTRE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALL SKRULLS
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#29  Edited By jasraj
If this was Steve i would give it to him, but i give it to Shiva after a good fight
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#30  Edited By daredevil21134
@GOODLantern said:
"this ends the same way the Daredevil vs Huntress fight ended,in a bed. "

lol
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#31  Edited By Erik

Shiva. 

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#32  Edited By Mercy_
@GOODLantern said:
" I beg to differ,Shiva is not Bat-Level,and did you see the comic where bucky makes fools of super-powered skrulls?yea,when shiva beats down grundy i'll say she's on his level. "
LMFAO. No. 
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#33  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator
@erik said:
"Shiva.  "

co-signed
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#34  Edited By daak1212

Shiva to me isnt faster than Bucky nor stronger but on the other hand she is a much better fighter.
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#35  Edited By Tem-Tem

 
Personally, I'm going with who is willing to fight dirtier, at which point I give it to Shiva.

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#36  Edited By daak1212
@Tem-Tem said:
" Personally, I'm going with who is willing to fight dirtier, at which point I give it to Shiva. "

One was a brainwashed assassin and the other a top class martial artist.  Winter Soldier killed a pregnant women
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#37  Edited By The_Ghostshell
@daak1212 said:
" @Tem-Tem said:
" Personally, I'm going with who is willing to fight dirtier, at which point I give it to Shiva. "
One was a brainwashed assassin and the other a top class martial artist.  Winter Soldier killed a pregnant women "
Lady Shiva killed two cripples. One had no arms and the other had no legs :P (just thought this was funny)