Lady Shiva and Batgirl vs The TMNT

Location: Gotham City streets. Nighttime. Weapons: Shiva and Cassie have a katana. The turtles have their weapons. No prep time. In character.

Tough, though only because of the shells making it hard to keep them down.

Shiva takes down Donatello or Mikey and the dominoes start falling then I see the Shiva and Cass win.

Move prediction makes this a win for Mom and daughter over the brothers.

tough one to call Im going with shiva and Batgirl

Mongoose

Team 1

Team 1 wrecks.

I don't think this is as close as has been stated. Team 1 take this in a stomp, either one has the potential to solo.

I think IDW TMNT are supposed to be pretty good, they still lose though...soloing is going too far though...

Team 1.

Team 1

I'm going with TMNT until I see a scan that body reading works on non-humans

It worked on Superboy and Superman. I don't know why it wouldn't.

@jacthripper: ???? Umm, the turtles are using Human Martial Arts and are humanoid bipeds, what you're asking is nonsensical.

@lukehero: Except they would have a totally different muscle structure. As well as their shells covering much of their bodies. Not saying that Shiva still can't kick their crap, but Cass is very reliant on her body reading.

Ok, here it is:

Against a shappshifter:

Here, Cassandra "body-reads" Superboy's feelings and emotions, and even recognises him by his way of moving:

This

@bat_girl_cc: The man bat one works, but the Superboy one isn't that hard, most people can tell if a guy has a boner.

I love the Heroes in a half shell with all my heart but they are outmatched here. Shiva and Cass and with not much trouble

@jacthripper: What you're saying would make sense, if she was fighting an eight armed octopus, she's fighting 2 armed, 2 legged turtles who are using a human martial art. It's based on human mutants, hell the TMNT still even think like humans. They don't crawl on all fours, the stand on 2 legs, and fight like human martial artists. There is no reason her body reading wouldn't work. The turtles never move like Turtles when they are fighting. Even their shell bashing style is found in wrestling moves.

I would honestly say her body reading would less likely work on someone like Spiderman, who actually at times moves like a spider while fighting.

Team 1 easily. Pretty sure K4tz did a write up of Batman versus the Turtles at one point and had Batman as the winner.

@lukehero: Agreed, The turtles lose.