I want to say team 2 but its close. Team 2 is probably stronger physically but team one is probably more skilled. I think Slade's Meta-human abilities and Taskmasters ability use multiple fighting styles at the same time gives them a small majority but its pretty damn close. Like 5.5-6/10 close.
I want to say team 2 but its close. Team 2 is probably stronger physically but team one is probably more skilled. I think Slade's Meta-human abilities and Taskmasters ability use multiple fighting styles at the same time gives them a small majority but its pretty damn close. Like 5.5-6/10 close.
Team 2. They are equal in skill and Deathstroke outstats the other fighters. But it's a good fight - with standard equipment it would be a much easier win for Team 2.
Actually Cassandra Cain has stated that Deathstroke is stronger and faster than her, that she can't read his moves, and that he was toying with her went they fought. She isn't owning him. And Taskmaster is too much for Shiva. All Shiva has is her fighting skill - no enhanced stats, no armor, no special abilities. Taskmaster is more skilled than her since he has copied the skills of multiple high end fighters and will have no problems copying her style as well.
Actually Cassandra Cain has stated that Deathstroke is stronger and faster than her, that she can't read his moves, and that he was toying with her went they fought. She isn't owning him. And Taskmaster is too much for Shiva. All Shiva has is her fighting skill - no enhanced stats, no armor, no special abilities. Taskmaster is more skilled than her since he has copied the skills of multiple high end fighters and will have no problems copying her style as well.
Just because he has copied skills of a few high end fighters doesn't matter. Deadpool came up with a way to beat taskmaster pretty easily. I'm sure Shiva won't have a problem doing the same and also Shiva has taken out metahuman's before.
Deathstrokes also said the only way he can beat her is by getting insider her head.
She'll be going into this fight with advice on how to take a sure fire win. Considering this is End of pc cain.
@Kinasin_: Deadpool beating taskmaster had to do with him being unreadable. Not saying taskmaster beats shiva but deadpool really shouldn't be used.
Deadpool came up with some wierd martial art on the fly that taskmaster couldn't read if I remember correctly. Taskmaster doesn't know all of DC Earths martial arts.
Deathstrokes also said the only way he can beat her is by getting insider her head.
He has also said the same thing about Rose, and yet he has beaten her with his bare hands.
While we're on the topic of things characters say, Cass herself has said Slade is stronger, faster, and smarter than her, and that she cannot read his body language properly.
Deathstrokes also said the only way he can beat her is by getting insider her head.
He has also said the same thing about Rose, and yet he has beaten her with his bare hands.
While we're on the topic of things characters say, Cass herself has said Slade is stronger, faster, and smarter than her, and that she cannot read his body language properly.
Point is characters say a lot of stupid things. Cass would decimate Rose and when Slade and Cass fight she always impresses me more.
Deathstrokes also said the only way he can beat her is by getting insider her head.
He has also said the same thing about Rose, and yet he has beaten her with his bare hands.
While we're on the topic of things characters say, Cass herself has said Slade is stronger, faster, and smarter than her, and that she cannot read his body language properly.
Point is characters say a lot of stupid things. Cass would decimate Rose and when Slade and Cass fight she always impresses me more.
Cass has fought Rose twice and did not decimate her in either instance, she was struggling with Rose in their second encounter until Inertia intervened. Cass can be as impressive as she wants, Slade is still going to beat her down.
Deathstrokes also said the only way he can beat her is by getting insider her head.
He has also said the same thing about Rose, and yet he has beaten her with his bare hands.
While we're on the topic of things characters say, Cass herself has said Slade is stronger, faster, and smarter than her, and that she cannot read his body language properly.
Point is characters say a lot of stupid things. Cass would decimate Rose and when Slade and Cass fight she always impresses me more.
Cass has fought Rose twice and did not decimate her in either instance, she was struggling with Rose in their second encounter until Inertia intervened. Cass can be as impressive as she wants, Slade is still going to beat her down.
He really beats her down.
He has to resort to cheap tricks to stop her from decimating him.
@Kinasin_: Couple of points: Rose was sorely underexperienced in that fight, Cass even made a statement to that effect. And that was before her training under Nightwing.
Slade doesn't need to have weapons. He's stronger than her, he's faster than her, he's smarter than her, he can last longer than her.
@Kinasin_: Couple of points: Rose was sorely underexperienced in that fight, Cass even made a statement to that effect. And that was before her training under Nightwing.
Slade doesn't need to have weapons. He's stronger than her, he's faster than her, he's smarter than her, he can last longer than her.
He sure didn't look faster when she was making him look like a clown. His first instinct was to use his weapons to save his butt from getting turned out by cass.
@Kinasin_: Couple of points: Rose was sorely underexperienced in that fight, Cass even made a statement to that effect. And that was before her training under Nightwing.
Slade doesn't need to have weapons. He's stronger than her, he's faster than her, he's smarter than her, he can last longer than her.
He sure didn't look faster when she was making him look like a clown. His first instinct his to use weapons to save him his butt from getting turned out by cass.
Sure, just like Cass didn't look faster when she was struggling with Rose. Or that tough when Nightwing one-shotted her. Or when a ten year old speedster walked all over her. Single instances are not definitive of anything.
@Kinasin_: Couple of points: Rose was sorely underexperienced in that fight, Cass even made a statement to that effect. And that was before her training under Nightwing.
Slade doesn't need to have weapons. He's stronger than her, he's faster than her, he's smarter than her, he can last longer than her.
He sure didn't look faster when she was making him look like a clown. His first instinct his to use weapons to save him his butt from getting turned out by cass.
Sure, just like Cass didn't look faster when she was struggling with Rose. Or that tough when Nightwing one-shotted her. Or when a ten year old speedster walked all over her. Single instances are not definitive of anything.
You gotta go by what you have. Deathstroke has had a plethora of instances of being made to look like a clown as well. Fact is Cass has shown to be the more competent of the two when it comes down to it in H2H.
@Kinasin_: Couple of points: Rose was sorely underexperienced in that fight, Cass even made a statement to that effect. And that was before her training under Nightwing.
Slade doesn't need to have weapons. He's stronger than her, he's faster than her, he's smarter than her, he can last longer than her.
He sure didn't look faster when she was making him look like a clown. His first instinct his to use weapons to save him his butt from getting turned out by cass.
Sure, just like Cass didn't look faster when she was struggling with Rose. Or that tough when Nightwing one-shotted her. Or when a ten year old speedster walked all over her. Single instances are not definitive of anything.
You gotta go by what you have. Deathstroke has had his plethora of instances of being made to look like a clown as well. Fact is Cass has shown to be the more competent of the two when it comes down to it in H2H.
And so does Cass, every character does. Cassie is more skilled, but Slade has feats that mark him as better at virtually everything else, in addition to having defeated skilled opponents as well.
@Kinasin_: Couple of points: Rose was sorely underexperienced in that fight, Cass even made a statement to that effect. And that was before her training under Nightwing.
Slade doesn't need to have weapons. He's stronger than her, he's faster than her, he's smarter than her, he can last longer than her.
He sure didn't look faster when she was making him look like a clown. His first instinct his to use weapons to save him his butt from getting turned out by cass.
Sure, just like Cass didn't look faster when she was struggling with Rose. Or that tough when Nightwing one-shotted her. Or when a ten year old speedster walked all over her. Single instances are not definitive of anything.
You gotta go by what you have. Deathstroke has had his plethora of instances of being made to look like a clown as well. Fact is Cass has shown to be the more competent of the two when it comes down to it in H2H.
And so does Cass, every character does. Cassie is more skilled, but Slade has feats that mark him as better at virtually everything else, in addition to having defeated skilled opponents as well.
Yet Cassie made him look like fool in H2H, and this is a H2H fight with no weapons to see who is more superior in a H2H fight. I'm going with Cass from what was shown with her encounter with him. Simple as that.
@Kinasin_: Couple of points: Rose was sorely underexperienced in that fight, Cass even made a statement to that effect. And that was before her training under Nightwing.
Slade doesn't need to have weapons. He's stronger than her, he's faster than her, he's smarter than her, he can last longer than her.
He sure didn't look faster when she was making him look like a clown. His first instinct his to use weapons to save him his butt from getting turned out by cass.
Sure, just like Cass didn't look faster when she was struggling with Rose. Or that tough when Nightwing one-shotted her. Or when a ten year old speedster walked all over her. Single instances are not definitive of anything.
You gotta go by what you have. Deathstroke has had his plethora of instances of being made to look like a clown as well. Fact is Cass has shown to be the more competent of the two when it comes down to it in H2H.
And so does Cass, every character does. Cassie is more skilled, but Slade has feats that mark him as better at virtually everything else, in addition to having defeated skilled opponents as well.
Yet Cassie made him look like fool in H2H, and this is a H2H fight with no weapons to see who is more superior in a H2H fight. I'm going with Cass from what was shown with her encounter with him. Simple as that.
And I can just as easily go with Slade based on one fight where Nightwing one-shotted her, and another fight where Slade two-shotted Dick. See? Single instances are not definitive of anything. Simple as that.
Slade may very well be able to beat Cain, eventually, but not before Shiva downs Taskmaster. His ability to mimic moves is highly overrated and its actually a skill Cass is able to duplicate herself so all those throwing it out there as some sort of advantage I hate to break it to ya, its not. The major advantage here is Slade's combat intelligence and durability. Slade "says" alot of sh!t, doesn't make it true. Thats what he does, he talks, gets inside peoples head. He speaks in half truths which makes trying to validate anything he says as point fact moot.
@Kinasin_: Couple of points: Rose was sorely underexperienced in that fight, Cass even made a statement to that effect. And that was before her training under Nightwing.
Slade doesn't need to have weapons. He's stronger than her, he's faster than her, he's smarter than her, he can last longer than her.
He sure didn't look faster when she was making him look like a clown. His first instinct his to use weapons to save him his butt from getting turned out by cass.
Sure, just like Cass didn't look faster when she was struggling with Rose. Or that tough when Nightwing one-shotted her. Or when a ten year old speedster walked all over her. Single instances are not definitive of anything.
You gotta go by what you have. Deathstroke has had his plethora of instances of being made to look like a clown as well. Fact is Cass has shown to be the more competent of the two when it comes down to it in H2H.
And so does Cass, every character does. Cassie is more skilled, but Slade has feats that mark him as better at virtually everything else, in addition to having defeated skilled opponents as well.
Yet Cassie made him look like fool in H2H, and this is a H2H fight with no weapons to see who is more superior in a H2H fight. I'm going with Cass from what was shown with her encounter with him. Simple as that.
And I can just as easily go with Slade based on one fight where Nightwing one-shotted her, and another fight where Slade two-shotted Dick. See? Single instances are not definitive of anything. Simple as that.
@Kinasin_: Couple of points: Rose was sorely underexperienced in that fight, Cass even made a statement to that effect. And that was before her training under Nightwing.
Slade doesn't need to have weapons. He's stronger than her, he's faster than her, he's smarter than her, he can last longer than her.
He sure didn't look faster when she was making him look like a clown. His first instinct his to use weapons to save him his butt from getting turned out by cass.
Sure, just like Cass didn't look faster when she was struggling with Rose. Or that tough when Nightwing one-shotted her. Or when a ten year old speedster walked all over her. Single instances are not definitive of anything.
You gotta go by what you have. Deathstroke has had his plethora of instances of being made to look like a clown as well. Fact is Cass has shown to be the more competent of the two when it comes down to it in H2H.
And so does Cass, every character does. Cassie is more skilled, but Slade has feats that mark him as better at virtually everything else, in addition to having defeated skilled opponents as well.
Yet Cassie made him look like fool in H2H, and this is a H2H fight with no weapons to see who is more superior in a H2H fight. I'm going with Cass from what was shown with her encounter with him. Simple as that.
And I can just as easily go with Slade based on one fight where Nightwing one-shotted her, and another fight where Slade two-shotted Dick. See? Single instances are not definitive of anything. Simple as that.
Couple of points: Rose was sorely underexperienced in that fight, Cass even made a statement to that effect. And that was before her training under Nightwing.
Just throwing it out there but Cass was also under-experienced in their first encounter. Not as much as Rose but if we're tossing it around we cant ignore the fact that Cass (and Rose) go on to become much more accomplished fighters. Cass it happens to in the same series. Their fight in Titans East or whatever that was called one could argue she was still recovering from being drugged. In fact I'd even say this point is further validated by Nightwing one-shotting her. She's been shown to take hits from heavy hitters (like Slade with a dumb bell) and she barely falters, yet in this instant one punch from Dick takes her out? I'd rather blame it on the drug then call it PIS.
@Gambler: I usually don't give the drugged theory much credence because Rose was drugged in the same manner when she fought Cass and it didn't seem to inhibit her in any way. I have no quarrel with the rest.
Cassandra couldn't beat Batman when they fought yet Spade beat him convincingly. Ditto for Nightwing. Face it, Slade is too much for a street leveler if they are just using H2H.
@CitizenBane: Was she? I thought she was drugged with something that enhanced her precog, where Cass was drugged with an actually mind control/inhibitor. I'm not married to the drugged theory but if we look at Cass' overall showings that entire issue stands out as the odd duck. I also wanna say Taskmaster on paper is a beast and should be an elite level marvel fighter yet for some reason he's continually downplayed. He has a couple nice showings but compared to the rest of the participants he seems like the weak link.
@Kinasin_: Couple of points: Rose was sorely underexperienced in that fight, Cass even made a statement to that effect. And that was before her training under Nightwing.
Slade doesn't need to have weapons. He's stronger than her, he's faster than her, he's smarter than her, he can last longer than her.
He sure didn't look faster when she was making him look like a clown. His first instinct his to use weapons to save him his butt from getting turned out by cass.
Sure, just like Cass didn't look faster when she was struggling with Rose. Or that tough when Nightwing one-shotted her. Or when a ten year old speedster walked all over her. Single instances are not definitive of anything.
You gotta go by what you have. Deathstroke has had his plethora of instances of being made to look like a clown as well. Fact is Cass has shown to be the more competent of the two when it comes down to it in H2H.
And so does Cass, every character does. Cassie is more skilled, but Slade has feats that mark him as better at virtually everything else, in addition to having defeated skilled opponents as well.
Yet Cassie made him look like fool in H2H, and this is a H2H fight with no weapons to see who is more superior in a H2H fight. I'm going with Cass from what was shown with her encounter with him. Simple as that.
And I can just as easily go with Slade based on one fight where Nightwing one-shotted her, and another fight where Slade two-shotted Dick. See? Single instances are not definitive of anything. Simple as that.
Once again making him look like a tool.
What was so hard to understand in that?
Yeah, and during the whole encounter she is shown being more agile and better at H2H.
@Gambler: I think she had the mind control thing going on too, didn't she say the drugs were what drove her to claw out her eye?
Taskmaster's showings are up and down.
I thought she plunged her eye out simply to impress her father but now that you mention it I think it was the result of the drugs. Also didnt she come off her drugged issue several months (comicbook release time) before the fight? Were as Cass was still under the influence.
@Gambler: I think she had the mind control thing going on too, didn't she say the drugs were what drove her to claw out her eye?
Taskmaster's showings are up and down.
I thought she plunged her eye out simply to impress her father but now that you mention it I think it was the result of the drugs. Also didnt she come off her drugged issue several months (comicbook release time) before the fight? Were as Cass was still under the influence.
I'm pretty sure, but with as much as I read it gets hazy keeping track of everything.
Yes but it was a different drug wasnt it? Her drug enhanced her precog, where as Cass altered her mind. Or am I wrong? Either way I wouldnt count a fight in which both characters are drugged as anything substantial.
He has to resort to cheap tricks to stop her from decimating him.
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