Ladies Vs Gentlemen

The Ladies:

The Gentlemen
 

Fight:

Gentlemen. 
 
Since there's no morals 

• Flash can speedblitz
• Black Bolt can scream the desert off the earth together with the ladies.
• MM can probably mindrape everyone except the ones with resistance.
• Surfer can probably solo this

I think without morals, maybe the guys, but I'm not an expert on all of the characters. All I know for sure is this: Oracle is out.

......is that phoenix in the backgorund? this is hard to detirmine.....dont think the ladies should be taken lightly.....

Phoenix, Wanda, and Photon are an awful lot for the guys to handle.  Surfer and Captain Atom are the only ones who can even possibly, possibly, hurt Photon.  And I think with Power Girl, Raven, Zatanna, Invisible Woman, etc... running interference, Jean and Wanda tip the scales too heavily in favor of the Ladies team.  Ladies win 8/10.

I'm thinking the guys got it here. it really depends on which phoenix that is. Flash could handle most of them in a blur. MM can mindraep most of them too. It's going to come down to a couple of extremely powerful women versus all the guys. to be honest, all the marvel women are fodder except phoenix. Flash could handle all the marvel girls himself. I gotta give it to the guys... just my opinion.

Ladies

Girls have it. Phoenix can take SS.  I don't think Flash can touch the woman that are in the air.

Women bags this... come on! Phoenix? Scarlet Witch? needless to say no morals.

guys win for a number of reasons SS is the most powerful on either team, and there isn't anyone on the womens team that can compete with him. The Flash is the fastest person and no one matched his speed for the women. The women have a numbers advantage, but the guys are all way to strong to lose. So in the end the men are getting some sandwiches.

With the Phoenix, the women win. Without Phoenix, Men stomp

Flash could reach the women in the air if there are mountains on the planet and he uses one like a ramp... Or anything that above ground and is slanted for that matter.

" The Pheonix is a cosmic force 'inhabiting a physical form' with all limitations that entails. Neurons sending messages to the brain and other various parts of the body to spur action takes time... time she should not have with the likes of the Flash and Superman. Can't Phoenix be taken out before she can ponder her very first word let alone move?  "

Flash > Phoenix. 
 
Men take it.

"Flash > Phoenix.  Men take it. "

The Ladies win. Phoenix solos.

"It doesn't matter how fast Flash is his speed is below her speed to think, she used her telepathy to make Masterminds mind go from one side of the universe to the other instantly no time passed she touched his mind and in an instant he was everywhere in the universe and then back in his own mindscape, when he can runl that distant instantaneously we can talk.  The brief battle between Phoenix and Xavier touched every plane of existence simultaneously as soon as it started, that is the speed of a telepaths thoughts at work. "

"The Ladies win. Phoenix solos. "

"@LordOfAllHumans said:

"It doesn't matter how fast Flash is his speed is below her speed to think, she used her telepathy to make Masterminds mind go from one side of the universe to the other instantly no time passed she touched his mind and in an instant he was everywhere in the universe and then back in his own mindscape, when he can runl that distant instantaneously we can talk.  The brief battle between Phoenix and Xavier touched every plane of existence simultaneously as soon as it started, that is the speed of a telepaths thoughts at work. "

TP won't work. Martian Manhunters TP didn't work because his brain worked to fast. His Speed is to much, he can go 10x FTL, she can't think at that level.  Flash is way faster than Speed of thought. "

"@comicdude23 said:

"@LordOfAllHumans said:

"It doesn't matter how fast Flash is his speed is below her speed to think, she used her telepathy to make Masterminds mind go from one side of the universe to the other instantly no time passed she touched his mind and in an instant he was everywhere in the universe and then back in his own mindscape, when he can runl that distant instantaneously we can talk.  The brief battle between Phoenix and Xavier touched every plane of existence simultaneously as soon as it started, that is the speed of a telepaths thoughts at work. "

TP won't work. Martian Manhunters TP didn't work because his brain worked to fast. His Speed is to much, he can go 10x FTL, she can't think at that level.  Flash is way faster than Speed of thought. "

so then if she can send her thoughts from one side of the universe to the other in an instant, your saying that if there was a way from him to run in space he would make it from on side of the universe before her thoughts?  She has traveled to the far side of the universe to eat a star almost instantly, that would denote that FTL speed is no stranger to her either. "

"@LordOfAllHumans said:

"@comicdude23 said:

"@LordOfAllHumans said:

"It doesn't matter how fast Flash is his speed is below her speed to think, she used her telepathy to make Masterminds mind go from one side of the universe to the other instantly no time passed she touched his mind and in an instant he was everywhere in the universe and then back in his own mindscape, when he can runl that distant instantaneously we can talk.  The brief battle between Phoenix and Xavier touched every plane of existence simultaneously as soon as it started, that is the speed of a telepaths thoughts at work. "

TP won't work. Martian Manhunters TP didn't work because his brain worked to fast. His Speed is to much, he can go 10x FTL, she can't think at that level.  Flash is way faster than Speed of thought. "

so then if she can send her thoughts from one side of the universe to the other in an instant, your saying that if there was a way from him to run in space he would make it from on side of the universe before her thoughts?  She has traveled to the far side of the universe to eat a star almost instantly, that would denote that FTL speed is no stranger to her either. "

Ok. Let me re-phrase myself. Her TP won't work, he can out think it. H "

"@comicdude23 said:

"@LordOfAllHumans said:

"@comicdude23 said:

"@LordOfAllHumans said:

"It doesn't matter how fast Flash is his speed is below her speed to think, she used her telepathy to make Masterminds mind go from one side of the universe to the other instantly no time passed she touched his mind and in an instant he was everywhere in the universe and then back in his own mindscape, when he can runl that distant instantaneously we can talk.  The brief battle between Phoenix and Xavier touched every plane of existence simultaneously as soon as it started, that is the speed of a telepaths thoughts at work. "

TP won't work. Martian Manhunters TP didn't work because his brain worked to fast. His Speed is to much, he can go 10x FTL, she can't think at that level.  Flash is way faster than Speed of thought. "

so then if she can send her thoughts from one side of the universe to the other in an instant, your saying that if there was a way from him to run in space he would make it from on side of the universe before her thoughts?  She has traveled to the far side of the universe to eat a star almost instantly, that would denote that FTL speed is no stranger to her either. "

Ok. Let me re-phrase myself. Her TP won't work, he can out think it. H "

he can out think a psi blast? the speed of your thoughts would have no bearing when it comes to a direct attack to them, she won't try to read his mind or communicate or even control it, a psi blast does not work like other aspects of telepathy, only shielding will help you there, shielding that he does not have, and Martian Manhunters telepathy is in no way comparable to Phoenix, her mind touched everything plane in existence at the same time with but one thought, which is a better thought speed feat than the one side of the universe to the other. "

"@LordOfAllHumans said:

"@comicdude23 said:

"@LordOfAllHumans said:

"@comicdude23 said:

"@LordOfAllHumans said:

"It doesn't matter how fast Flash is his speed is below her speed to think, she used her telepathy to make Masterminds mind go from one side of the universe to the other instantly no time passed she touched his mind and in an instant he was everywhere in the universe and then back in his own mindscape, when he can runl that distant instantaneously we can talk.  The brief battle between Phoenix and Xavier touched every plane of existence simultaneously as soon as it started, that is the speed of a telepaths thoughts at work. "

TP won't work. Martian Manhunters TP didn't work because his brain worked to fast. His Speed is to much, he can go 10x FTL, she can't think at that level.  Flash is way faster than Speed of thought. "

so then if she can send her thoughts from one side of the universe to the other in an instant, your saying that if there was a way from him to run in space he would make it from on side of the universe before her thoughts?  She has traveled to the far side of the universe to eat a star almost instantly, that would denote that FTL speed is no stranger to her either. "

Ok. Let me re-phrase myself. Her TP won't work, he can out think it. H "

he can out think a psi blast? the speed of your thoughts would have no bearing when it comes to a direct attack to them, she won't try to read his mind or communicate or even control it, a psi blast does not work like other aspects of telepathy, only shielding will help you there, shielding that he does not have, and Martian Manhunters telepathy is in no way comparable to Phoenix, her mind touched everything plane in existence at the same time with but one thought, which is a better thought speed feat than the one side of the universe to the other. "

He can dodge a PSI blast, Thor was capable of doing that. Scans of one side of the Universe to the other? "

The phoenix could rip flash apart

" @comicdude23:  Phoenix is already in the air in the pic. Looks like she's pretty high also. I don't see how flash can touch her. Forget TP an omni-directional blast is sure to hit flash or cause enough damage to the ground to make him stumble. Plus there are alot of speedsters on the womens team who can run interference. If Zatanna just gets a chance to say " Everybody freeze" its over.  
 
 
@Ramtha07: Alot of speedsters on womens team also. But the main problem is Phoenix. She is galactus level. So she solo. Photon is a beast. Also if the magic people are not taken out immediately the men are done. "

" @pooty said:

" @comicdude23:  Phoenix is already in the air in the pic. Looks like she's pretty high also. I don't see how flash can touch her. Forget TP an omni-directional blast is sure to hit flash or cause enough damage to the ground to make him stumble. Plus there are alot of speedsters on the womens team who can run interference. If Zatanna just gets a chance to say " Everybody freeze" its over.  
 
 
@Ramtha07: Alot of speedsters on womens team also. But the main problem is Phoenix. She is galactus level. So she solo. Photon is a beast. Also if the magic people are not taken out immediately the men are done. "

Lol its not over if zananna says that, their are way to many powerful women that would be immune to that plus dont forget about wanda "

This is dark phoenix at full power btw

" It will take more than one punch from Flash to knock out Wonder Woman, Donna Troy, Power Girl, She-Hulk, Phoenix, Starfire, Ms. Marvel, and Rogue. Especially Wonder Woman who has taken punches from Superman himself.   You all seem to be forgetting Raven, Scarlet Witch, Starfire, Ms. Marvel and some other heavy hitters out of this battle. Particularly Raven and Scarlet Witch. With no morals, nothings to stop Raven from turning into Trigon-influenced Raven who is a serious threat to all of the JL. And if Scarlet Witch got the chance, she could just place a hex on Flash causing him to trip of something which gives one of the ladies a chance for someone to tag him.    Plus, a few mind games from Phoenix, Emma Frost, and Raven could take out almost half the team.    "

"guys win for a number of reasons SS is the most powerful on either team, and there isn't anyone on the womens team that can compete with him. The Flash is the fastest person and no one matched his speed for the women. The women have a numbers advantage, but the guys are all way to strong to lose. So in the end the men are getting some sandwiches. "

" @marvellover1:  If Zatanna says that the men would be frozen in place. "