Kyle Rayner (white lantern) vs. Sentry, and Gladiator

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#1  Edited By webslingingpete

Who wins?

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By feats, team stomps. By potential, Kyle does.

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By feats, team stomps. By potential, Kyle does.

Although I wouldn't use stomp basically this.

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Kyle stomps

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Kyle. I wont explain any further.

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Kyle, by feats, stomps.

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#10  Edited By SodamYat

@uugieboogie: White Lantern Kyle is greater than Green Lantern Kyle, wouldnt you agree?

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Kyle has tanked planet busting blasts.

He's taken blasts from 6 Guardians at once.

His ring tells him what his opponents fear.

He can see his opponents history.

He can create life.

He has brought a planet to life.

He has killed that planet.

He can teleport his opponents away.

He's done all these things.

So by feats, Kyle stomps.

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@sodamyat: almost everything you just listed the Silver Surfer has also done

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@serrure said:

@sodamyat: almost everything you just listed the Silver Surfer has also done

are you suggesting Silver Surfer is on Kyle Rayner level? Really?

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#15  Edited By uugieboogie

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@uugieboogie: White Lantern Kyle is greater than Green Lantern Kyle, wouldnt you agree?

Yes but GL Kyle doesn't have the feats to put him above both Bob & Kallark at the sametime... Considering this is Stable Sentry or DSS

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@sodamyat said:

@serrure said:

@sodamyat: almost everything you just listed the Silver Surfer has also done

are you suggesting Silver Surfer is on Kyle Rayner level? Really?

GL Kyle or WL Kyle?

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#17  Edited By SodamYat

is this working

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#18  Edited By serrure

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@serrure said:

@sodamyat: almost everything you just listed the Silver Surfer has also done

are you suggesting Silver Surfer is on Kyle Rayner level? Really?

ok i would like you to underline where i said Kyle Rayner = Silver Surfer. your reading skills are severely lacking

or it could be your fanboying hard here.

Silver Surfer has tanked Planetary Blasts

Silver Surfer has created life and then evolved it so fast that it actually killed them

Destroyed a planet

so maybe post something impressive.

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@serrure said:

@sodamyat said:

@serrure said:

@sodamyat: almost everything you just listed the Silver Surfer has also done

are you suggesting Silver Surfer is on Kyle Rayner level? Really?

ok i would like you to underline where i said Kyle Rayner = Silver Surfer. your reading skills are severely lacking

or it could be your fanboying hard here.

Silver Surfer has tanked Planetary Blasts

Silver Surfer has created life and then evolved it so fast that it actually killed them

Destroyed a planet

so maybe post something impressive.

WTF? Why are you talking sh*t to me?

Youre saying that silver surfer has done everything I listed. WHat i listed is enough to defeat his opponents here.

Chill out.

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Kyle

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@serrure: Maybe read New Guardian's comic? It's a stomp for Kyle. There's something called the Life Equation... Something you would know if you had read the comic in the first place.

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hehe

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#23  Edited By serrure

@serrure: Maybe read New Guardian's comic? It's a stomp for Kyle. There's something called the Life Equation... Something you would know if you had read the comic in the first place.

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lol

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hehe

you really wanna go this route? i strongly urge you to reconsider your current course of action

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@serrure: What he said to you was funny. I cant help laughing. Sorry?

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#25  Edited By ShadowHuntR

Just for you :

Kyle use the Life Equation to remove the Source Titans from the New Gods homeworld.
Kyle use the Life Equation to remove the Source Titans from the New Gods homeworld.
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''You altered the universe so that return from beyond the wall was possible. You reshaped reality to give you what you wanted''
''You altered the universe so that return from beyond the wall was possible. You reshaped reality to give you what you wanted''
''If you change the equation, you change reality''
''If you change the equation, you change reality''
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Too powerful for the New Guardians and is able to change Carol into Alex (who was killed a while ago)
Too powerful for the New Guardians and is able to change Carol into Alex (who was killed a while ago)
Carol explaining to Kyle that he really changed her into Alex. She had her memories, her thoughts, being with him and remebers dying.
Carol explaining to Kyle that he really changed her into Alex. She had her memories, her thoughts, being with him and remebers dying.

Just beating the Guardians is enough to handle Sentry and Gladiator. He was able to do that without the Life Equation when he had just become the White Lantern. They didn't even have enough power to face him :

From Hal Jordan (that's Kyle without the Life Equation) : Truth be told, with your power as the white lantern, you can stop them (he's talking about the New Guardians).
From Hal Jordan (that's Kyle without the Life Equation) : Truth be told, with your power as the white lantern, you can stop them (he's talking about the New Guardians).
Ganthet tells the other Guardians that they will need more power to face him as a White Lantern.
Ganthet tells the other Guardians that they will need more power to face him as a White Lantern.

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#26  Edited By Fallingcliffs

Kyle destroys them.

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@serrure: You should go back and read what you wrote first my friend. Let me do it for you :

ok i would like you to underline where i said Kyle Rayner = Silver Surfer. your reading skills are severely lacking

or it could be your fanboying hard here.

Silver Surfer has tanked Planetary Blasts

Silver Surfer has created life and then evolved it so fast that it actually killed them

Destroyed a planet

so maybe post something impressive

You want respect? You gotta earn it.

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#29  Edited By vinomonster

Current kyle is strongest character in the DC multiverse.. Anyone who disagrees doesnt read the GL books at all. Kyle>;Guardians of the Universe >Surfer

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@micah said:

@thenewbluebeetle007 said:

By feats, team stomps. By potential, Kyle does.

Name 3 feats that these 2 have done that gives them a stomp over Kyle that he cannot do.

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This should be good.

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Kyle definitely.

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Kyle, even GL KR would stomp

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@sodamyat said:

Kyle has tanked planet busting blasts.

Been done by The sentry.

He's taken blasts from 6 Guardians at once.

Bob fought Genis-Vell who was killed later by baron Zemo because he was a threat to the Universe AKA Universal Destruction.

His ring tells him what his opponents fear.

Bob fears nothing since his mental flaws have been removed.

He can see his opponents history.

Bob can rewrite the history.

He can create life.

Bob created The Void, The Sentry and a mini-werewolf.

He has brought a planet to life.

Bob has destroyed the planet Temporalon.

He has killed that planet.

Bob kills planets while holding back.

He can teleport his opponents away.

Bob can teleport himself.

He's done all these things.

So by feats, Kyle stomps.

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@realitywarper: Kyle does it using the source code. The source code is the code for all reality. Whoever controls the source controls everything. In other words, if Kyle wants to Think Sentry out of existence, then thats what will happen.

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@realitywarper: Kyle does it using the source code. The source code is the code for all reality. Whoever controls the source controls everything. In other words, if Kyle wants to Think Sentry out of existence, then thats what will happen.

It's a standard valable for DC only.

Sentry stomped Molecule Man who reshaped the whole Marvel Universe in his last fight against The Beyonder.

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@realitywarper: Kyle does it using the source code. The source code is the code for all reality. Whoever controls the source controls everything. In other words, if Kyle wants to Think Sentry out of existence, then thats what will happen.

It's a standard valable for DC only.

Sentry stomped Molecule Man who reshaped the whole Marvel Universe in his last fight against The Beyonder.

It works here because Comicvine rules say the battles take place in a shared universe.

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@realitywarper: wasn't that a retconned Owen?

If not, you honestly belive I can make a Sentry vs. Pre Retcon Beyonder fight without it being locked or uneven?

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#39  Edited By micah007123

@sodamyat said:

This should be good.

What was good was seeing your "neck defense argument". That was an instant classic.

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#40  Edited By RealityWarper

@sodamyat said:

@realitywarper said:
@sodamyat said:

@realitywarper: Kyle does it using the source code. The source code is the code for all reality. Whoever controls the source controls everything. In other words, if Kyle wants to Think Sentry out of existence, then thats what will happen.

It's a standard valable for DC only.

Sentry stomped Molecule Man who reshaped the whole Marvel Universe in his last fight against The Beyonder.

It works here because Comicvine rules say the battles take place in a shared universe.

That don't makes him reality warping above those of The Sentry, HOM Wanda, MJJ, Franklin Richards, The Beyonder or Molecule Man.

@realitywarper: wasn't that a retconned Owen?

If not, you honestly belive I can make a Sentry vs. Pre Retcon Beyonder fight without it being locked or uneven?

1) Owen was retconned but not depowered.

2) I answered Yes at the previous question so please just look about the information that I give next.

Pre-retcon Molecule Man

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Post-retcon Molecule Man :

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Was there any moments that Molecule Man needed to display a multiversal power during Dark Avengers ?

No.

He is at the same level of power even he choosed not to exert his powers outside of the city.

Dark Reign Files Molecule Man :

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And more :

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In the fifth paragraph it is explained that Molecule Man restore his powers thanks to Volcana.

So no, Owen Reece isn't depowered after he left the raft.

He just nerf the range of his powers to the Town.

That means that everything inside the Town is under his control.

He said to the HAMMER that he wants to stay in his town and that he wants people to let him in peace :

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"I want this little piece of the World and I want to be left alone."

Moreover before this, Molecule Man said that he control the molecules of his World :

Basically that means that he took the town as his property and that he will not exert his powers outside it :

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Here he explains that he chosen to control the molecules of his world, his town.

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#41  Edited By Beware_My_Power

@realitywarper: so sentry is multiversal now? Why are people still comparing him to superman?

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@sodamyat said:

@realitywarper said:
@sodamyat said:

@realitywarper: Kyle does it using the source code. The source code is the code for all reality. Whoever controls the source controls everything. In other words, if Kyle wants to Think Sentry out of existence, then thats what will happen.

It's a standard valable for DC only.

Sentry stomped Molecule Man who reshaped the whole Marvel Universe in his last fight against The Beyonder.

It works here because Comicvine rules say the battles take place in a shared universe.

That don't makes him reality warping above those of The Sentry, HOM Wanda, MJJ, Franklin Richards, The Beyonder or Molecule Man.

It makes him able to erase people from existence due to being able to manipulate the very code of existence.

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#43  Edited By Beware_My_Power

@sophia89

is Sentry a multiversal reality warper?

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#44  Edited By RealityWarper

@beware_my_power said:

@realitywarper: so sentry is multiversal now? Why are people still comparing him to superman?

They compare him to Superman because of his superficials likeness.

That's cosmetic.

But we live in a society that accord a lot of importance about the appearences.

The Sentry is the idealized-self of Bob Reynolds, we can perceive him as a tribute to Superman.

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And Sentry being a Multiversal Reality Warper is highly suggested.

By Iron Man :

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Moonstone :

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Even SS Dr Strange considers him as an Universal threat in the first mini-series :

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Kyle has this .

Pr molecule is no where close to beyonder .

Sentry and Gladiator has no chance here.

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Kyle with his absurd OP feats

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Seems like Kyle wins this then.

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I sure laughed at some things here.

Personally, i think WL kyle rayner will take this battle.

Wielding the life equation, makes him a reality warper on a multiversal scale. Highfather with a portion of the life equation was able to pimp slap parallax.

IMO someone with the life code is alsready an abstract being if not above, as the person has power over the multiverse.

Going by feats, which have been replicated by sentry, he have a tough time time, by power levels and all he stomps without noticing.

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I sure laughed at some things here.

Personally, i think WL kyle rayner will take this battle.

Wielding the life equation, makes him a reality warper on a multiversal scale. Highfather with a portion of the life equation was able to pimp slap parallax.

IMO someone with the life code is alsready an abstract being if not above, as the person has power over the multiverse.

Going by feats, which have been replicated by sentry, he have a tough time time, by power levels and all he stomps without noticing.