Kuzan & Sakazuki vs Itachi & Nagato

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ItachI & Nagato are non Edo & healthy

Round 1. Logia intangibility off, Genjutsu restricted.

Round 2. No restrictions

Bloodlust on, random encounter

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#2  Edited By TGDROX

Biggest factors in round 2 are intangibility, Almighty Totsuka Blade and the soul stealing dragon-summoning Gedo statue. There is no evidence for this, but Nagato's Chakra rods might inhibit the elemental transformation of the admirals. Or Nagato might be able to use Chibaku Tensei and seal them.

But I honestly think that the Admirals are way too much. They are ridiculously strong even without their Devil Fruit powers. With them, we've seen Kuzan dodging Whitebeard's haki imbued spear by transforming himself right befoe getting hit, and Sakazuki taking loads of damage Kuzan could just immediately freeze them, and there would be nothing they could do about it.

I guess it depends on who acts first.

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  1. Admirals
  2. Ninja
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  1. Aokiji flash freezes
  2. Itachi genjutsu's
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  1. Aokiji flash freezes
  2. Itachi genjutsu's

What's to say Aokiji doesn't repeat what you think he does in round 1 in round 2 before a genjutsu can be cast ?

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Yeah, Admirals round 1, ninjas round 2.

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@almighty said:
@goldroger said:
  1. Aokiji flash freezes
  2. Itachi genjutsu's

What's to say Aokiji doesn't repeat what you think he does in round 1 in round 2 before a genjutsu can be cast ?

I imagine Itachi pointing or looking into their eyes is faster than Aokiji flash freezing.

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@almighty said:
@goldroger said:
  1. Aokiji flash freezes
  2. Itachi genjutsu's

What's to say Aokiji doesn't repeat what you think he does in round 1 in round 2 before a genjutsu can be cast ?

I imagine Itachi pointing or looking into their eyes is faster than Aokiji flash freezing.

So in ur opinion itachi has faster combat speed than the admiral duo ?

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@almighty: No, just that his genjutsu is a lot faster an attack than anything they can do... Ya know.... Itachi just has to look at them.

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#12  Edited By ValorZ
@goldroger said:

@almighty: No, just that his genjutsu is a lot faster an attack than anything they can do... Ya know.... Itachi just has to look at them.

Aokiji's flash freeze was so fast that even someone like Doflamingo could merely move his arm a bit before he froze the entire port. Itachi has no feats to suggest he can compete with such speed

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1. Admirals

2. Ninja only via Genjutsu.

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#14  Edited By Reno117
  1. Itachi and Nagato
  2. Itachi and Nagato

Aokiji can't freeze Amaterasu or Itachi's flaming Susanoo. @almighty can Nagato absorb their energy? Is it allowed? If yes then they're done if no then I go back to Itachi's jutsus.

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@reno117 said:
  1. Itachi and Nagato
  2. Itachi and Nagato

Aokiji can't freeze Amaterasu or Itachi's flaming Susanoo. @almighty can Nagato absorb their energy? Is it allowed? If yes then they're done if no then I go back to Itachi's jutsus.

He doesn't needs to freeze those jutsus since they will be dead from the flash freeze stopping their heart

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@valorz said:
@reno117 said:
  1. Itachi and Nagato
  2. Itachi and Nagato

Aokiji can't freeze Amaterasu or Itachi's flaming Susanoo. @almighty can Nagato absorb their energy? Is it allowed? If yes then they're done if no then I go back to Itachi's jutsus.

He doesn't needs to freeze those jutsus since they will be dead from the flash freeze stopping their heart

Stating that you mean, that Aokiji will instantly freeze them so they die. But Itachi's Amaterasu is also flash fast.

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Ninjas both round

Round 1: It's debatable but Totsuka Blade

Round 2: Genjutsu

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R1 : Goes both ways honestly.

R2 : Ninja stomp.

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@reno117 said:
@valorz said:
@reno117 said:
  1. Itachi and Nagato
  2. Itachi and Nagato

Aokiji can't freeze Amaterasu or Itachi's flaming Susanoo. @almighty can Nagato absorb their energy? Is it allowed? If yes then they're done if no then I go back to Itachi's jutsus.

He doesn't needs to freeze those jutsus since they will be dead from the flash freeze stopping their heart

Stating that you mean, that Aokiji will instantly freeze them so they die. But Itachi's Amaterasu is also flash fast.

Yes, considering its bloodlusted Aokiji will freeze their insides including their hearts too and what gives Aokiji the advantage is speed feats of his flash freeze being superior to Itachi's feats

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@valorz said:
@reno117 said:
@valorz said:
@reno117 said:
  1. Itachi and Nagato
  2. Itachi and Nagato

Aokiji can't freeze Amaterasu or Itachi's flaming Susanoo. @almighty can Nagato absorb their energy? Is it allowed? If yes then they're done if no then I go back to Itachi's jutsus.

He doesn't needs to freeze those jutsus since they will be dead from the flash freeze stopping their heart

Stating that you mean, that Aokiji will instantly freeze them so they die. But Itachi's Amaterasu is also flash fast.

Yes, considering its bloodlusted Aokiji will freeze their insides including their hearts too and what gives Aokiji the advantage is speed feats of his flash freeze being superior to Itachi's feats

So YOU are telling ME that a bloodlusted Aokiji is worse than a bloodlusted Itachi ?!?!

Buddy listen, considering is a big word, I like debating with facts..so do you remember when Itachi had almost no chakra and he was quite smitten by Sasuke? And later on, Sasuke calls Kirin and thunderclapped him with it..? He managed soo incredibly fast to awaken Susanoo and guard all that attack, even when he was in all that pain from their entire fight.

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You can't even notice when Itachi activates Susanoo, but he actually did, otherwise he would be ash.

And all that when he was barely standing, now let's consider what will happen if he's bloodlusted. Itachi was Kishimoto's favourite character so if we debate with considerations, I really believe Aokiji won't stand a chance against a bloodlusted Itachi because his speed would be far superior than his.

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Itachi & nagato both rounds it would be a hard fight for them but naruto characters fight smarter

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Round 1: Totsuka Blitz

Round 2: Genjutsu

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Itachi solos both rounds.

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Kuzan flash freezes the wannabe Ninja and Snape rip off or Sakazuki punches their face of and melts their insides.

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#26  Edited By Nite_Nite

Admirals. Logia aren't intangible to begin with so handicapping these guys so they can't transform into their elements won't really do much when they are much more superior physically then who they're facing.

Genjutsu didn't have to be "restricted". It should only be "allowed". Genjutsu ain't something that only exists in naruto media. It just has certain way of operating that's unique to the series. Kouga gennousuke from basilisk uses genjutsu. But his doesn't have requirements like naruto series. So it'd make sense if his genjutsu was "restricted" in a match up. It's something that would already work naturally.

Aokiji flash freezes. Ninja are analytical and will observe to attain information. It's literally what most people use for naruto cast in debates, I just flipped it back

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Admirals both rounds

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@reno117: Itachi and Nagato

Itachi and Nagato

Aokiji can't freeze Amaterasu or Itachi's flaming Susanoo. @almighty can Nagato absorb their energy? Is it allowed? If yes then they're done if no then I go back to Itachi's jutsus.

Flaming susanoo????? From itachi???? Lol

That lightning feat was pis or cis seriously susanoo wasn't even visable till itachi explained it to sasuke and I don't wanna hear some b.s. That it was invisible cuz that's b.s.

On a side note an invisible susanoo would b way more dangerous

But anyways

Ninjas both rounds