Kraven vs SpOck vs Ultimate cap vs Deathstroke

Kraven(sergei)

Deathstroke

SpOck

Ultimate Captain America

Rules:

• What morals they have are off, but they are in character within these conditions
• Assume everyone here can kill Kraven.
• Standard gear for everyone.
• Deathstroke gets New 52 and Pre-New 52 feats.
• Win by death/KO/incap.
• Fight takes place here:

SpOck

SpOck or Slade

SpOck or Ultimate Cap comes close.

1. SpOck. His tech and physicals will be enough.
2. Deathstroke since he has both pre and new 52 feats
3. Ultimate Cap
4. Kraven.

SpOck or Slade. I could see a Pre/New 52 Slade amalgam actually pulling the upset on SpOck here.

Spock.

Sp0ck

Sad thing is unless Kraven can get poisons in them all he's pretty outclassed here. Unless Deathstroke's armor nullifies poisons and Ult Cap has some sort of super-soldier immunity to them.

SpOck or Slade.

I agree.

Is Kraven really not a big factor here? I thought his track records against Spiders(Peter and Kaine) and knowledge on how they fight would at least keep him in the game here.

SpOck or Deathstroke

SpOck

He's done well, but the Spiders have no resistance or immunity to poisons. Also, it took only one hit from Kaine to put him out. Perhaps I was a bit too harsh in my wording, but while he can keep pace and fight well against everyone here, I feel he's in a position to get one-hit by at least 2 of the 3 should he get tagged.

SpOck fights differently than both. He does have experience fighting spiders so he could give SpOck a good fight but against a more brutal spider-man he should lose.

Fair enough. I overestimate him most of the time honestly. And Kaine hits harder than anyone here.

Kraven or SpoOck. no wait ... SpOck or DS then cap, then kraven. Kraven is outmatched when it comes to weapons

The only answer is SpOck.

Ult Cap has been jacked up on tranqs and they didn't put him down. I wouldn't expect him to fall prey to them.

I thought Kaine was only able to do that because of the healing factor unable to work on Peter. Since Kaine is a copy of Peter, He would share it.

To be fair kravens poisons did affect venom, and the symbiote has shown how to filter out poisons (all though you could argue that was due to flashes experience with the symbiote).

@jashro44: Cap has also shown healing to heal in hours and days, as well as reversing vampirism. I think he's probably good to go. With the tranq incident, he was hit a ton of times too. His opponents were surprised he was up after being dosed so heavily.

I don't think he takes a majority here, though. I was just saying I don't see him getting put down via drugs. I've got my money on the guy in the Spider-man body whose moral standing is lying down.

@pr0metheus: Yes but the "no death unless by Peter or his clones" caveat isn't in play here, also it's pretty well known that if Peter didn't hold back as much as he did Kraven wouldn't be as big a threat. Kraven gets by on intelligence and hunting his prey, setting them up for an ambush or to fight on his terms. That's what makes him so dangerous.

@jashro44: It was pretty much a by-product of a combination of the suit's sedation and Flash's resistance to the symbiote. He mentioned in his encounter with Rulk that he could become immediately sober if he gave the suit a greater degree of control, that it could filter out the toxins in alcohol, but he didn't trust the suit yet. Later against the U-Foes he filters their poisons just fine. Just to point out that it wasn't the strength of Kraven's poisons, but the suit's state and Flash's resistance to the suit. But, to @jashro44's point to @risingbean, Kraven's poisons have effected very tough combatants before like Peter and they have been shown to have a bit of a cumulative effect. Not saying it's guaranteed to effect Cap here, but if Kraven has a poisoned blade eventually after several hits Cap may be feeling their effects.

@granitesoldier: It's possible. It's just that more evidence has been against that then for it.

I still hold that composite Slade can beat Spider-man (SpOck)

Spidey.

Slade takes slight majority over SpOck IMO.

I'd say either Sp0ck or Slade in a good match. If Pre-52 and New-52 feats apply for Deathstroke, would that mean that whatever speed Pre-52 Slade has is increased by the physically enhancing Nth Metal armor? If so, then I'd say he'd take a fairly solid win.

SpOck

Yeah, he has new 52 gear.