Round 1: no prep, H2H only
Location: dojo 20 feet apart
Round 2: no prep kraven has a longsword and 3 spears and the silver samurai has sword and armor
Location: Plains 30 feet apart
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Kraven is vastly superior physically and in hand-to-hand so he stomps round 1. In round 2, Harada is more skilled and his mutant power will allow him to just cut through Kraven's equipment regardless.@BringnIt: sorry use the non dead version and can you explain why each goes that way?
Kraven is vastly superior physically and in hand-to-hand so he stomps round 1. In round 2, Harada is more skilled and his mutant power will allow him to just cut through Kraven's equipment regardless.Kraven isn't VASTLY superior to Harada in ANY way,shape or form.
Kraven wins round 1, unless Harda has some h2h skills I don't know about. (Although even then Kraven still has a physical advantage)
Round 2 goes to Harda, as he is clearly the better swordsman, and his powers give him a massive edge.
Unless we're talking about the new Silver Samurai that I'm not sure has even shown up yet.
@BringnIt said:What unarmed combat feats does Harada have at all? What physical feats does he have that put him with Kraven in the strength, durability or speed (not quickness) department?Kraven is vastly superior physically and in hand-to-hand so he stomps round 1. In round 2, Harada is more skilled and his mutant power will allow him to just cut through Kraven's equipment regardless.Kraven isn't VASTLY superior to Harada in ANY way,shape or form.
Kraven obviously wins the first round because Harada doesn't have any fighting skill feats without the use of a sword but the idea that "vastly" superior to Harada in any way is what I was objecting to.I've never seen Kraven beat any skilled fighter without exploiting their lack of physical ability in comparison to his own.In other words Kraven is more skilled on paper than he's EVER shown to be. Also as far as physical superiority, Silver Samurai's main enemy is Wolverine who has speed feats on par with Kraven,he's also fought and kept pace with Spider-Man while also fighting Black Widow, He's fought Spider-Woman as well, and he's also been seen cutting and blocking multiple bullets at a time.@Vance Astro: Then who do you think wins?
What unarmed combat feats does Harada have at all? What physical feats does he have that put him with Kraven in the strength, durability or speed (not quickness) department?I mentioned some showings above but Harada doesn't have many unarmed combat feats.The thing is Kraven's are mostly based on his strength and durability not so much his skill.I've pretty much never seen him face a skilled fighter in a scenario he won where his skill was even a factor.In other words, sure Kraven would beat Harada because he has some showings of unarmed combat and Silver Samurai has none but it's not like he has one outstanding feat you can mention that would be any proof of Kraven's skill as an unarmed combatant.Silver Samurai doesn't have many feats in any of those areas but from who he's fought it's obvious that Kraven isn't "vastly" superior to him.The idea that they aren't even close is nonsense.
@KainScion said:
@Entos: his h2h far exceeds kravens. he has done battle with wolverine, w/o his sword and won a good % of them. kraven cant even beat spider-man that has 0 training (spider-sense but still).
He's beaten Wolverine in h2h? When was that? Was Wolverine even fighting skillfully?
Spider-Man only consistently beats Kraven due to his power though, and even then Kraven gave him a large amount of trouble.
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