Kraven & Black Cat vs Catman & Catwoman

Standard weapons and equipment / no powers or potions

Morals off

Random encounter

Win by any means

Hm.

Leaning toward Team 1.

Not sure though.

team 1

Team 1 stomps.

This isnt close Kraven easily solos team 2 and black cat has physicals which are greater than either of team 2 plus bad luck powers

Team 1 in a stomp

Team 1 both have a shot at soloing

It is hard to gauge Kraven without his powers.

@captainguts: this battle says no powers, which means no bad luck but also no enhanced physical stats for Kraven and Black Cat.

That being said I think the victory still goes to team one, I don't know of any showing for Catman or Catwoman that show they can handle Kraven. Under these circumstances I think Catwoman actually has a shot at beating Black Cat because she relies to heavily on her powers.

Kraven solos

team 1

@lone_wolf_and_cub: @greeendragon: @comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: @somayareece: @highaccuser: @captainguts: people people people what comics are you all reading??

We're talking about Catman! The same Catman that stalemated Bronze Tiger, the same Bronze Tiger that trained with Richard dragon and the LoA, defeated batman & trained Cassie Cain one of if not the best martial artist in school universe. So "Kraven solo" comment is straight BULL-CIS if you ask me. Especially without powers and potions.!!!!

And to add catwoman.... The same catwoman that gives dick a run for his money. Who is just as skilled as batman.

So Saying that Kraven or black cat solos without powers or potions is like saying they can solo the likes of cap, daredevil, and black panther -_- cmon now. You people need to think or read a comic before responding in these forms with nonsense

I'll take team 2, as Black Cat seems to be the least skilled fighter here. However, i'm not sure what Kraven is capable of without powers, so I could be wrong.

@strafe_prower: you do realise black cat utterly out stats team 2 massively plus she has bad luck powers

@adication: kraven could easily beat the likes of cap and daredevil

The reason people are saying he solos is because of his stats, durability and gear plus he is extremely skilled

Team 1

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: ok 1. The op clearly says no powers and potions which mean that this is strictly skill. Kravens stats are lowered without his potions.

@adication: no it didn't you just edited it now

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: I guess @greeendragon: just made up his post 2 days ago then huh ^^ -_- how bout you read full the op before you post from now on.

With no powers team 2. With powers kraven solos.

@adication: didn't notice that this was without powers my explanation shows that. I agree that catman is incredibly skilled and could take a majority without powers but he's no where near cap or panther in physicals either

@captainguts: being able to stalemate bronze tiger is the only feat anyone needs to be able to judge him vs. cap or BP. Batman is in there league and batman can't defeat let alone stalemate BT.

catwomen can take Kraven maybe

Catman take black cat

Catman take Kraven if he is still standing

11-3

Team 1. Kraven beats Catman easily. Black Cat beats Catwoman via her powers.

@savagebeast: it clearly states no power or potions.

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